prediction time: What happens with Kyrie Irving?

[elindholm]

We've all heard the rumors. What do you think will actually happen? Not what you want to happen.

 

[GatorAZ]

Suns -

Bledsoe, Chriss (plus either Warren and a MIA 1st or our 18' pick lightly protected)

for

Kyrie
Frye (expiring)

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I think Kyrie will put on his big boy pants and stay in Cleveland...

 

[SirStefan32]

Cavs want too much. They think he is better than he is. My guess is that he stays in Cleveland. If he gets traded, it will be for peanuts.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Suns -

Bledsoe, Chriss (plus either Warren and a MIA 1st or our 18' pick lightly protected)

for

Kyrie
Frye (expiring)

I think that's an awful deal. Bledsoe plus two young players and a 1st? No way Cleveland should get that considering they're over a barrel and not a lot of other teams can offer a package like us.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think he gets dealt... not to us.

 

[Folster]

I just have a feeling that we are going to get him. I think Bledsoe makes too much sense for the Cavs for it not to happen. I just hope we don't have to give up too much else beyond him.

I'd be willing to include whoever the Suns favor the least out of Chriss, Bender, and Warren along with the Miami pick or our pick protected of course.

 

[GatorAZ]

I think that's an awful deal. Bledsoe plus two young players and a 1st? No way Cleveland should get that considering they're over a barrel and not a lot of other teams can offer a package like us.

Suns were bent over a barrel when they traded Dragic. If you're breaking down the projected pieces...

- Bledsoe has the same amount of years left on his deal and he could go down any moment with the wear & tear from knee procedures
- Warren is inconsistent and plays the same position as JJ but will be a RFA. He has yet to show he can shoot 3's or defend
- First rd picks are overrated if we're talking about Miami's considering they're easily a playoff team and maybe 2nd rd material
- Chriss could turn into something if he learns to play the game but that will take time

It's risky but so is trusting 20 year old projects and draft picks to reach their best case outcome. I've pretty much done a 180 from a week ago.

 

[pokerface]

I think he gets dealt... not to us.

Same here.

As a matter of fact we have less need for Irving because he doesn't propel us to anything great...so why offer the moon for him? We won't and another team will get him because they want him more.

 

[Ronin]

He gets shipped to New York. Imho

 

[JS22]

I just have a feeling that we are going to get him. I think Bledsoe makes too much sense for the Cavs for it not to happen. I just hope we don't have to give up too much else beyond him.

I'd be willing to include whoever the Suns favor the least out of Chriss, Bender, and Warren along with the Miami pick or our pick protected of course.

Pretty much this. Usually when the Suns are in the running for a big name player via trade or FA I just shrug it off. This seems different. He was almost traded here on draft night, Bledsoe is the best PG replacement they're going to find, he's buddy buddy with Lebron, and I'm guessing other teams are lowballing Cleveland because they know they can.

Irving might very quickly turn into a problem if he remains on that roster. And it looks like the Suns can put together the best deal - even without Jackson. (Unless some other team goes crazy and gives up the farm. Which, in that case, I'd be glad Phoenix stuck to their guns and didn't do the same.)

 

[Chaplin]

Cavs want too much. They think he is better than he is. My guess is that he stays in Cleveland. If he gets traded, it will be for peanuts.

I think in a normal year, the Cavs asking price fits. But they are not in a position right now to dictate such a high price--regardless of what they keep saying. So I agree, if he gets traded, it will almost certainly be below market value.

 

[Covert Rain]

He will probably somehow end up with a team already loaded I am sure.

 

[Finito]

The more I think about it the more I want Kyrie. I make Booker my primary ball handler I play Kyrie off ball and I tell Kyrie you got one job in Phoenix and that's get buckets.

Honestly I really wonder about Chriss man that summer league had me scratching my head. His body language just looked so bad. He has the talent but something about his attitude seems off.

I'd do Bled, Miami pick and there choice of Warren, Chriss or Bender

 

[Phrazbit]

The more I think about it the more I want Kyrie. I make Booker my primary ball handler I play Kyrie off ball and I tell Kyrie you got one job in Phoenix and that's get buckets.

Honestly I really wonder about Chriss man that summer league had me scratching my head. His body language just looked so bad. He has the talent but something about his attitude seems off.

I'd do Bled, Miami pick and there choice of Warren, Chriss or Bender

Kyrie won't do that. He is not an off ball player, he has made it perfectly clear, he wants to dominate the ball.

 

[leclerc]

I'm sceptical giving up Chriss or Bender for what very well could be a two year rental. Might as well hang on to Bledsoe and let him play out his contract while both Bender and Chriss (and Warren if we resign him) develops. We might make a huge mistake. It's not like Kyrie is the missing piece. I doubt he's a Barkley or even a KJ. The point is those Suns teams had more established talent than we do now, just finishing second worst in the league. There are some terrible teams in the east and just one of them is worse than us! He might get us to forty wins for two seasons and then bolt. What has become of Chriss and Bender by that time?

 

[Errntknght]

I voted he'd go to another team, but the longer this drags on without clear breaking off, I have a sinking feeling Kyrie winds up here. Nausea...

 

[Finito]

Kyrie won't do that. He is not an off ball player, he has made it perfectly clear, he wants to dominate the ball.

When did he say that

 

[GatorAZ]

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Apparently this guy is close with Gilbert and has been in a number of Cavs draft day rooms.

 

[Carolinacacti]

I'm sure they want the draft picks. Suns need to keep the picks.

 

[Hoop Head]

When did he say that

When he asked out of Cleveland. He's not willing to share the ball with Lebron, you think he'll be ok with deferring to a 20 year old Booker?

 

[Hoop Head]

Apparently Carmelo has rescinded his request to go to Cleveland and now will only waive his no trade clause for Houston. That throws any 3 team trade with New York back into the planning stages.

https://clutchpoints.com/carmelo-anthony-will-waive-clause-rockets-only/


Also, the Cavs are asking a lot for Kyrie from Minnesota. They want Wiggins and another player who can contribute, not just Aldrich to make the salaries work.
https://cavsnation.com/cavs-want-so...n-andrew-wiggins-no-trade-timberwolves-close/

 

[Finito]

When he asked out of Cleveland. He's not willing to share the ball with Lebron, you think he'll be ok with deferring to a 20 year old Booker?

Dude seriously.

this whole thing is spin I seriously don't see how people don't see this. Kyrie and his camp flat out said that came from James and his camp.

Lebron and yes it's Lebron tried to trade him 3 times this offseason. He was included in packages for Butler, George and to Phoenix dude.

Lebron is leaving at the end of the year everybody knows this if im Kyrie why would I want to stick around for this and the circus it's about to become.

Oh Kyrie is so selfish he wants to leave a championship contender... Oh the same championship contender that's done nothing but try and trade him all offseason lol. Wonder why he wants to leave.

 

[Finito]

When he asked out of Cleveland. He's not willing to share the ball with Lebron, you think he'll be ok with deferring to a 20 year old Booker?

And he wouldn't be deferring he would be the focal point of the offensive. Was Kobe deferring by playing the 2 guard yeah no.

 

[Phrazbit]

And he wouldn't be deferring he would be the focal point of the offensive. Was Kobe deferring by playing the 2 guard yeah no.

Did Kobe ever play with another guard who wanted to jack up 20 shots a game? Yeah... no.