Predictions: Starters on Offense and Defense

[az1965]

I've posted similar stuff several times. There were 4 more games we should have won last season. We could have been 12-4. On the other hand if we lose the 4 OT games we'd have been 4-12. That's our Cardinals nothing is ever normal with them. That is also what makes it really hard to predict what is going to happen this, or any other season.

I know... I thought it was funny the math error Krang had in his post. He must be thinking we were 7-9 instead of 8-8 last season. It's not even been five months since the season ended... LOL!

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I don't wish to do that because, while you and I often disagreed, you used to have posts of substance and actual opinion. They've just not been that way recently is all.



See, that's a post with an actual opinion that doesn't just throw a blanket of negativity on someone without offering your own opinion. That's why I don't want to ignore you.

I should be relieved that I met your criteria, but know the approval is temporary. Board etiquette from someone who over the years has been on the 'rag' more than a women's basketball team is just hilarious.

 

[Stout]

I should be relieved that I met your criteria, but know the approval is temporary. Board etiquette from someone who over the years has been on the 'rag' more than a women's basketball team is just hilarious.

Aaaaand you continue acting the child. Well done. Have I gotten upset and gone after posters before? You bet! Why? Because I love arguing, and will debate opinions with my dying breath! Do I ever simply leave sniping little annoying posts of no substance just to be an annoyance? Nope. At least I put a real opinion in mine. But of course, you decide to redirect it to me without saying why you've devolved as a poster. Why have you stopped posting in substance? Why are you more and more just randomly naysaying people?

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Aaaaand you continue acting the child. Well done. Have I gotten upset and gone after posters before? You bet! Why? Because I love arguing, and will debate opinions with my dying breath! Do I ever simply leave sniping little annoying posts of no substance just to be an annoyance? Nope. At least I put a real opinion in mine. But of course, you decide to redirect it to me without saying why you've devolved as a poster. Why have you stopped posting in substance? Why are you more and more just randomly naysaying people?

I don't accept the sweeping premise on my posting anymore than the assertion that all of your posts have been of substance, although, I imagine that bile does qualify.

Leave it alone... move on... nothing to see here.

 

[kerouac9]

My early prediction before camp is 9-7. I think we're better than Seattle and the Rams, and the Niners won't continue their ridiculous turnover advantage.

I don't think we improved the roster that much, but I think we're not worse and that's good enough for us to win 2 more games. Look at last season: if we win the Giants game and the Redskins game we win 9 ball games. It's not too hard to think that with a full camp and the further development of our younger talent (Peterson, Washington, Dan Williams, Housler, etc.) that we turn a winning record this year.

IMO it will shake out like this in the NFC West:

SF 10-6
AZ 9-7
SEA 6-10 (Will Carroll be canned if this is the case?)
STL 4-12 (Still awful, Bradford isn't a franchise QB)

Don't you think that the schedule will affect the performance on the field? We were an 8-8 team last year that wasn't 5-11 (again) because of a confluence of unlikely events and an impossible-to-sustain success rate in overtime.

You don't think that San Fran's turnover ratio will stand up, but the Cards' performance in games decided in overtime won't regress to the mean?

The Cards' opponents and travel schedule is much more difficult this year than last. I don't understand how you can expect improvement on a much more difficult schedule with a similarly talented team.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Not sure how SF loses three more games than last season, except for maybe the increase in difficulty of competition for this upcoming season.

IMO, SF got better not just by adding significant pieces on offense, but keeping all 11 starters from arguably the best defense in the league. Compound that with having one of the better coaches in the league and you have a very solid 11-13 win team next season.

I do think; however, that if the coaches ask Alex Smith to do more than preserve the game next season, he will struggle. Throwing only 5 INTs in one season for a QB of Smith's caliber shows he was playing conservative in 2011. Harbaugh is better served just letting the run game take over the offense again and simply asking Smith not to screw it up.

Totally disagree. Don't buy the hype TJ.

Harbaugh is amazing but they accomplished what they did by sneaking up on everybody. You want consistent success in the NFL? you need the go to QB. maybe Alex Smith becomes that but you can tell by the 49er actions they don't value him as a sure fire playoff QB. I bet you Kapernick starts 3+ games this year. They didn't win it all but the disease of more will haunt them this year IMO.

But WAY more importantly? It's the amount of turnovers they created last year. History shows that those type of anamolies never happen back to back.

10 less turnovers from the defense and likely more turnovers from the offense (Moss and Crabtree running bad routes, Lamichael James getting hit and coughing up the ball, Alex Smith turning back to Alex Smith) combined with the weight of expectations and all of a sudden you have a middling team.

And like you mentioned their schedule is tough.

I am by far the biggest proponent of Jim Harbaugh on this board but the Niners will regress. In fact I guarantee they don't finish with OVER 9 wins. anyone want to bet?

 

[kerouac9]

Totally disagree. Don't buy the hype TJ.

Harbaugh is amazing but they accomplished what they did by sneaking up on everybody. You want consistent success in the NFL? you need the go to QB. maybe Alex Smith becomes that but you can tell by the 49er actions they don't value him as a sure fire playoff QB. I bet you Kapernick starts 3+ games this year. They didn't win it all but the disease of more will haunt them this year IMO.

But WAY more importantly? It's the amount of turnovers they created last year. History shows that those type of anamolies never happen back to back.

10 less turnovers from the defense and likely more turnovers from the offense (Moss and Crabtree running bad routes, Lamichael James getting hit and coughing up the ball, Alex Smith turning back to Alex Smith) combined with the weight of expectations and all of a sudden you have a middling team.

And like you mentioned their schedule is tough.

I am by far the biggest proponent of Jim Harbaugh on this board but the Niners will regress. In fact I guarantee they don't finish with OVER 9 wins. anyone want to bet?

San Francisco was 5-2 in games decided by a touchdown or less last year. That's something that might regress toward the mean.

But with the turnovers--at least on the defensive side of the ball--they forced 31 fumbles and recovered 15. That's what you'd expect (fumble recoveries are essentially random). On the offensive side, the 49ers fumbled 14 times and lost 5 of them.

I get that people hate Alex Smith, but he hasn't thrown more INTs than TDs since 2007. In 2009 he threw 18 TDs and 12 INTs in 10 starts. He's not Jake Plummer.

BTW - The Cards were 8-5 in games decided by a touchdown or less and 0-3 in games that didn't come down to the last 2 minutes. I'm not sure that's any more sustainable.

 

[JeffGollin]

It wouldn't surprise me if all four NFC West teams went 8 & 8.

 

[WildBB]

It wouldn't surprise me if all four NFC West teams went 8 & 8.

8-8 Or better.

 

[Stout]

I don't accept the sweeping premise on my posting anymore than the assertion that all of your posts have been of substance, although, I imagine that bile does qualify.

Leave it alone... move on... nothing to see here.

C'mon, when do I ever leave it alone?

Nah, not all of my posts have been of substance. I could have stated it better. I should have just said that I don't post one liners that say the Cardinals suck blah blah blah.

So, I allowed you a few more jabs (nice, getting personal) but offered a bit of a mea culpa too. Pax?

 

[Crazy Canuck]

C'mon, when do I ever leave it alone?

Nah, not all of my posts have been of substance. I could have stated it better. I should have just said that I don't post one liners that say the Cardinals suck blah blah blah.

So, I allowed you a few more jabs (nice, getting personal) but offered a bit of a mea culpa too. Pax?

PAX Canadese / Americano!

 

[Stout]

PAX Canadese / Americano!

W00t!

 

[az1965]

RT: Massie -- Unlike RB, I believe Massie will be started just because we don't have any other option. We will be in big **** if Massie turns out to be a bust.

Obviously, I agree with Sando's take

Brandon Cards Fan from Arizona asks whether the offensive linemen the Cardinals drafted from the fourth through seventh rounds might see the starting rotation or play extensively as rookies.

Mike Sando: Yes, I think fourth-round choice Bobby Massie figures to get some starts at right tackle this season -- either out of necessity or because he wins the job. Jeremy Bridges would be the veteran fallback at right tackle. Moving right guard Adam Snyder into that spot would be another option, but that could weaken two positions. I could see Bridges opening the season as the starter at right tackle, with Massie taking over during the season.

 

[bg7brd]

Obviously, I agree with Sando's take

Brandon Cards Fan from Arizona asks whether the offensive linemen the Cardinals drafted from the fourth through seventh rounds might see the starting rotation or play extensively as rookies.

Mike Sando: Yes, I think fourth-round choice Bobby Massie figures to get some starts at right tackle this season -- either out of necessity or because he wins the job. Jeremy Bridges would be the veteran fallback at right tackle. Moving right guard Adam Snyder into that spot would be another option, but that could weaken two positions. I could see Bridges opening the season as the starter at right tackle, with Massie taking over during the season.

As some have already mentioned on here before, don't be surprised if we add a vetran RT before camp starts.