PreDraft notes. Draft news leading up to draft day.

[SoonerLou]

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[Ronin]

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[Garthshort]

Great for us. Brown or Simmons or a trade down are now in play. Hope it's true.

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah. Take what the defense gives you.

 

[Johninromania]

Please Brown!

 

[Ronin]

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[Dante]

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[Proximo]

Please Brown!

Please NO Brown!

 

[Dr. Jones]

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Like I have been saying since January....... There are 3 good tackles and one other with an ugly ass floor combined with an insane ceiling.

After that...... All other tackles in this ENTIRE CLASS are trash IMO.

 

[Proximo]

Like I have been saying since January....... There are 3 good tackles and one other with an ugly ass floor combined with an insane ceiling.

After that...... All other tackles in this ENTIRE CLASS are trash IMO.

So you are sold on Wirfs?

He sounds to me like another combine hero that could easily flame out.

 

[Dr. Jones]

So you are sold on Wirfs?

He sounds to me like another combine hero that could easily flame out.

I'm sold on Wirfs being a projectable talent at RT. With some traits that lead me to think he will be a 12 to 18 level RT in this league. He plays in a pro-style offense, and has received very good to great coaching. And if he flames out at RT..... He could be a top 10 guard in the league.

I want Thomas and Wills much more. Both are better at RT IMO. Not only now, but maybe for the next 2 years. I am sold that Thomas provides an alternative to Hump not only now in the case of injury but also in 3 years when his contract is up.

But Kugler will have to work with Wirfs a ton to get the most out of him.

 

[Ronin]

Ian Rapoport
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#Clemson football player Isaiah Simmons to ⁦‪@nflnetwork‬⁩: "You only get 53 on a roster. I feel like if you draft me, you get 56.”

One of the biggest wild cards of the draft.

 

[Ronin]

Schefter reporting on SC that the Browns are also trying to trade back in the draft.

 

[gimpy]

Others than those four are trash? Really? Hope we don't get any of your "trash".

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Ian Rapoport
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#Clemson football player Isaiah Simmons to ⁦‪@nflnetwork‬⁩: "You only get 53 on a roster. I feel like if you draft me, you get 56.”

One of the biggest wild cards of the draft.

pride goeth

 

[SoonerLou]

Like I have been saying since January....... There are 3 good tackles and one other with an ugly ass floor combined with an insane ceiling.

After that...... All other tackles in this ENTIRE CLASS are trash IMO.

Seems that Keim really loves Ezra Cleveland.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Seems that Keim really loves Ezra Cleveland.

cleveland fits the mold of Kugler’s system

cat can RUN and MOVE

ETA: trading to 15 and getting Henderson/Chaisson and cleveland In the 2nd would be aight

 

[GuernseyCard]

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#Clemson football player Isaiah Simmons to ⁦‪@nflnetwork‬⁩: "You only get 53 on a roster. I feel like if you draft me, you get 56.”

One of the biggest wild cards of the draft.

The new deal expands the size of NFL rosters from 53 players to 55, while allowing two additional players to be active on game days. Teams must dress 8 Offensive linemen.

It also calls for larger practice squads and better compensation for practice-squad players. Under this deal, practice squads could soon increase to as many as 14 players per team, each making $10,500 per week — an increase of $2,500.

 

[Buckybird]

So you are sold on Wirfs?

He sounds to me like another combine hero that could easily flame out.

1) Yes
2) far from it

 

[Dante]

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[JeffGollin]

Not saying its legit. Just interesting

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I could see it happening (though the odds are really, really long).

If the trade for Hopkins unfavorably upsets last year's Fitz, Kirk, #3WR route-receiving chemistry, I could see Kingsbury using his #8 on Lamb and the pick they got for Kirk on an OT or LB.

Nothing wrong with a Hopkins, Fitz, Lamb WR trio, an upgraded OL and bolstered S or LB with our first three picks. We could then use the rest of our picks to cherrypick high-ceiling sleepers.

 

[Dante]

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[JeffGollin]

Peter King says we will draft Simmons.

8. Arizona—Isaiah Simmons, defensive player, Clemson
This is a first in Peter King Mock Draft History. I’ve never before labeled a player “defensive player.” Simmons has played strong safety, cornerback, slot corner, inside linebacker and outside linebacker, and he’s likely going to be a hybrid safety/linebacker/edge player in the NFL. Could be an instinctive pass-rusher too, which the Cardinals lack in a big way; he had 23 pressures on 70 pass-rushes. Now, the Cards have other needs, and Simmons doesn’t have a singular position. But he was a great and instinctive college player. I believe GM Steve Keim just might look at this pick and remember the 2007 draft. Keim, the director of college scouting in Arizona at the time, reportedly wanted Adrian Peterson when the Cards picked at number five in the first round. But the Arizona pick ended up being a tackle, Levi Brown, and Peterson came off the board two slots later, to Minnesota. Brown was an abject disaster with Arizona. Peterson is, well, the best back of the past 15 years. I’ve always seen Keim as a pick-the-best-player guy. And with the multiple defensive gifts of Simmons, he’d qualify as that if there at eight.

That AP reference from Keim reminds me of another one of my favorite quotes: "Success has many fathers but failure is an orphan".

I've always been wary of basing this year's draft on past successes or failures (A tiny shift in the prioratization of traits or an unexpected change in luck can alter a player's destiny in a NYC minute).

That said - I hope we draft Simmons (I like the way he chases down QB's and ballcarriers going wide. You don't teach that).

 

[SoonerLou]

I could see it happening (though the odds are really, really long).

If the trade for Hopkins unfavorably upsets last year's Fitz, Kirk, #3WR route-receiving chemistry, I could see Kingsbury using his #8 on Lamb and the pick they got for Kirk on an OT or LB.

Nothing wrong with a Hopkins, Fitz, Lamb WR trio, an upgraded OL and bolstered S or LB with our first three picks. We could then use the rest of our picks to cherrypick high-ceiling sleepers.

I think we go Oline/defense.

However, could draft Duvernay in round 4. If Kirk doesnt improve next year we can move him and already have his potential slot replacement.

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[SoonerLou]

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