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[BeeBeard]

3. kobe's injury ain't healing itself, so using that as an excuse is silly b/c it's going to be the same for the rest of the season and playoffs unless he decides to go under the knife, so it's no excuse at present.

4. both teams will be well-rested following all-star weekend, back-to-back or not. kobe didn't play but three mins yesterday and no other laker played ANY mins whereas nash and amare played some.

Yes, wasn't it so generous of Kobe to grace us with his presence for 3 minutes the other day, after being threatened with fines if he didn't show up, because the league knew that he was just pretending that his injury was more severe than it was? Gosh, what a lil trooper that Kobe is, to go out and pway even when he din wanna! " "

Citing minor injuries as major ones to avoid playing in the All-Star game is nothing new (Tracy McGrady has done it at least a couple of times)--it's just that Kobe got called on his malingering, and was still forced to play. Notice how that didn't stop him from putting a hilariously oversized wrap on his hand after playing, to try to maintain the premise of being really hurt. That bandage was so big, it looked like Bryant was trying to win a hand whiplash case or something: "Yes, your honor--that's the man who struck my pinky finger with his car!" *court attendees gasp*

5. hype will be overbearing.

i'm excited to watch just b/c i have no idea what to expect outta shaq and i can't wait to see him in a suns uni. it's gonna be so strange.

Let's hope so! I want this to be the most hyped game ever, because the more pressure and second-guessing Shaq is subjected to, the better he performs.

 

[D-Dogg]

Yes, wasn't it so generous of Kobe to grace us with his presence for 3 minutes the other day, after being threatened with fines if he didn't show up, because the league knew that he was just pretending that his injury was more severe than it was? Gosh, what a lil trooper that Kobe is, to go out and pway even when he din wanna! " "

Citing minor injuries as major ones to avoid playing in the All-Star game is nothing new (Tracy McGrady has done it at least a couple of times)--it's just that Kobe got called on his malingering, and was still forced to play. Notice how that didn't stop him from putting a hilariously oversized wrap on his hand after playing, to try to maintain the premise of being really hurt. That bandage was so big, it looked like Bryant was trying to win a hand whiplash case or something: "Yes, your honor--that's the man who struck my pinky finger with his car!" *court attendees gasp*

You must have missed the Darth Vader arm he's been sporting most of the weekend too.

I thought it was great, since I quite often think of Kobe as Anakin becoming Darth Vader.

 

[Mulli]

You must have missed the Darth Vader arm he's been sporting most of the weekend too.

I thought it was great, since I quite often think of Kobe as Anakin becoming Darth Vader.

Kobe can't act either. Ha!

 

[BeeBeard]

You must have missed the Darth Vader arm he's been sporting most of the weekend too.

I thought it was great, since I quite often think of Kobe as Anakin becoming Darth Vader.

Well, I was expecting Kobe to supplement it with a neck brace and leg cast. Actually, if he could have just been wheeled onto the court in a gurney, in full traction, that would have been awesome.

After the introductions, he could give a meek little wave. The crowd would be aghast: "Stern told him he had to play....with a sprained pinkie finger?? WHAT A MONSTER!"

 

[D-Dogg]

You must have missed the Darth Vader arm he's been sporting most of the weekend too.

I thought it was great, since I quite often think of Kobe as Anakin becoming Darth Vader.

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He was killing younglings outside the Superdome.

 

[BeeBeard]

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He was killing younglings outside the Superdome.

He was supposed to bring balance to the Staples Center, not leave it in darkness!

 

[Covert Rain]

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He was killing younglings outside the Superdome.

Better then in some hotel room in Colorado.

Sorry, couldn't resist. J/k.

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

I dont think kobe is dramatizing his injury at all. If he was forced to play because didnt request being removed in time, worst case scenario was he played just so he can keep his all star appearance record in tact.

p.s. Nash elevated the seriousness of his back injury right around this time last year too. I have no problem with that, so cant really have a problem with kobe

 

[D-Dogg]

I dont think kobe is dramatizing his injury at all. If he was forced to play because didnt request being removed in time, worst case scenario was he played just so he can keep his all star appearance record in tact.

p.s. Nash elevated the seriousness of his back injury right around this time last year too. I have no problem with that, so cant really have a problem with kobe

If he didn't play, he'd have to sit out the Hawks game on Tuesday.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

You guys can say what you want about excuses, but the fact remains, that if you have Shaq in this game, and the Suns don't win, then they are in serious trouble. Give it a rest guys, this one should be easy for Phoenix. Gasol can't beat you alone, and you know it.

This will make the season series 2-2, I can live with that. Hopefully in the playoffs, everyone will be healthy, Kobe will be able to play with the injury, and we'll see who's best when it matters. In the mean time, enjoy your win. The fact of the matter is that LA is in the better position here. If they lose, they had every reason to expect to lose, if the Suns lose, they are going to be the whipping post of ESPN for a week.

LOL - Looks like Lakerfan over here had taken a page out of the old Zen Master's book. Making it a no win situation for my Suns.

Well how about this DL - I think we are going to beat you guys just based on raw emotion but there is one very humoungous reason we might lose and that it may even be likely.

You know, integrating a 7'1 350 lb behemoth in place of a 6'7 210lb SF might take just a little adjustment time.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was month before everyone was on the same page and the team is clicking.

Let me put this in a perspective that you can understand as it has been awhile since you guys won a playoff round and might have forgotten. We are not worried about this meaningless game in mid February. Sure everyone is excited to see Shaq but I think expecting us to a be a 140 point machine with this big new toy right off the bat might be a little unrealistic.

Its all about the playoffs DL. No matter how much you want to slant it this game means little in the grand scheme.

See ya in April

 

[Darth Llama]

Let me put this in a perspective that you can understand as it has been awhile since you guys won a playoff round and might have forgotten. We are not worried about this meaningless game in mid February. Sure everyone is excited to see Shaq but I think expecting us to a be a 140 point machine with this big new toy right off the bat might be a little unrealistic.

Its all about the playoffs DL. No matter how much you want to slant it this game means little in the grand scheme.

See ya in April

You have got to be kidding me? Seriously? A Suns fan is going to lecture a Laker fan about importance in the playoffs? You guys beat the Lakers the last 2 years yes, congratulations. Other then the loss to the Bulls in the Finals one year, that's the absolute best you have. You have 2 years of beating 2 bad Laker teams that barely made the playoffs to begin with, with a team of all stars that still couldn't get it done. Congratulations, how proud you must be.

When your pathetic team and your sorry excuse for a head coach get a ring to show for your efforts, then maybe someone will listen, until that time, you just sound sad. I usually try to show some respect for the Suns in this forum, but if you're going to start that "we own you" crap over 2 years worth of playoffs, then things are going to get ugly fast. Seriously dude, get over yourself. I could debate the intricacies of working a new center into a system that's played like back yard basketball vs. integrating a position into the triple post offense of LA, but would it really matter? No one here wants to talk anything other then "lakers suck," so what's the point? Enjoy your season and another year of excuses when you don't win.

 

[BeeBeard]

You have got to be kidding me? Seriously? A Suns fan is going to lecture a Laker fan about importance in the playoffs? You guys beat the Lakers the last 2 years yes, congratulations. Other then the loss to the Bulls in the Finals one year, that's the absolute best you have. You have 2 years of beating 2 bad Laker teams that barely made the playoffs to begin with, with a team of all stars that still couldn't get it done. Congratulations, how proud you must be.

When your pathetic team and your sorry excuse for a head coach get a ring to show for your efforts, then maybe someone will listen, until that time, you just sound sad. I usually try to show some respect for the Suns in this forum, but if you're going to start that "we own you" crap over 2 years worth of playoffs, then things are going to get ugly fast. Seriously dude, get over yourself. I could debate the intricacies of working a new center into a system that's played like back yard basketball vs. integrating a position into the triple post offense of LA, but would it really matter? No one here wants to talk anything other then "lakers suck," so what's the point? Enjoy your season and another year of excuses when you don't win.

I highlighted the only thing he said that I agreed with. It seems that Lakers fans have to defer to history these days to try to seem superior. Because we know they damn sure have nothing else to talk about since Shaq left. Oh, and thank you for saving us a crash course in the "triple post offense." You're right, nobody cares at all.

 

[joshstmarie]

You have got to be kidding me? Seriously? A Suns fan is going to lecture a Laker fan about importance in the playoffs? You guys beat the Lakers the last 2 years yes, congratulations. Other then the loss to the Bulls in the Finals one year, that's the absolute best you have. You have 2 years of beating 2 bad Laker teams that barely made the playoffs to begin with, with a team of all stars that still couldn't get it done. Congratulations, how proud you must be.

When your pathetic team and your sorry excuse for a head coach get a ring to show for your efforts, then maybe someone will listen, until that time, you just sound sad. I usually try to show some respect for the Suns in this forum, but if you're going to start that "we own you" crap over 2 years worth of playoffs, then things are going to get ugly fast. Seriously dude, get over yourself. I could debate the intricacies of working a new center into a system that's played like back yard basketball vs. integrating a position into the triple post offense of LA, but would it really matter? No one here wants to talk anything other then "lakers suck," so what's the point? Enjoy your season and another year of excuses when you don't win.

you should stick to his topic when arguing your point, its lakers vs suns not bulls vs suns or any other combination of teams you're referring too.

 

[BeeBeard]

you should stick to his topic when arguing your point, its lakers vs suns not bulls vs suns or any other combination of teams you're referring too.

Excellent point. I'll give us a topic. Lakers vs. Suns in the playoffs. Discuss!

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P.S. - I'm not really sure what the fuss is about when it comes to the Lakers' history and its bearing on this current Lakers lineup, to be honest. The team hasn't won a championship without Magic Johnson or Shaq in 37 years.

 

[Darth Llama]

I highlighted the only thing he said that I agreed with. It seems that Lakers fans have to defer to history these days to try to seem superior. Because we know they damn sure have nothing else to talk about since Shaq left. Oh, and thank you for saving us a crash course in the "triple post offense." You're right, nobody cares at all.

Actually, you will notice going back through the post that it's Suns fans who are the first to refer to history when they talk about their wins over LA in the playoffs over the last 2 seasons. If you ask a Suns fan, they only acknowledge the NBA as existing for the last 2 years. And you're welcome for not giving you the crash course, you wouldn't understand it anyway.

you should stick to his topic when arguing your point, its lakers vs suns not bulls vs suns or any other combination of teams you're referring too.

The Lakers also run the Triangle Offense first employed by the Bulls. Now you know.

P.S. - I'm not really sure what the fuss is about when it comes to the Lakers' history and its bearing on this current Lakers lineup, to be honest. The team hasn't won a championship without Magic Johnson or Shaq in 37 years.

Is this supposed to be a point? The Bulls didn't win one without Jordan, The Spurs without Duncan, etc. Great players win championships, but for the Lakers it's a flaw that they haven't won unless they have had great players? I'm just going to assume you weren't trying to make a real point with that.

Don't worry though guys, you won't hear it from me on this forum anymore. I'll stick to the Laker forum in the Smack Shack and let you guys drone on with your blind love for the Suns. To those here that were cool to discuss things with, thanks for your hospitality and class. For the rest of you that just post insults and ignorant crap, I hope you learn to take example from some of the more mature posters on this forum. I'll find a more unbiased place to post, thanks anyway. Good luck to you all and your team, may you all find nothing but happiness and joy. I came here to talk, I'm sick of fighting, it's just too hard to talk basketball on this forum, and I didn't come here to start trouble.

Peace guys.

 

[Renz]

The team hasn't won a championship without Magic Johnson or Shaq in 37 years.

LOL! That has to be the dumbest "put down" that I've ever read.

 

[D-Dogg]

Excellent point. I'll give us a topic. Lakers vs. Suns in the playoffs. Discuss!

In its existence, the Suns franchise record against the Lakers:

2007 -- defeated LA Lakers, 4-1, first round
2006 -- defeated LA Lakers, 4-3, first round
2000 -- lost to LA Lakers, 4-1, conference semifinals
1993 -- defeated LA Lakers, 3-2, first round
1990 -- defeated LA Lakers, 4-1, conference semifinals
1989 -- lost to LA Lakers, 4-0, conference finals
1985 -- lost to LA Lakers, 3-0, first round
1984 -- lost to LA Lakers, 4-2, conference finals
1982 -- lost to LA Lakers, 4-0, conference semifinals
1980 -- lost to LA Lakers, 4-1, conference semifinals
1970 -- lost to LA Lakers, 4-3, division semifinals

Overall the Suns are 22-34 against the Lakers in the playoffs. Only counting this decade you are a scant 9-8.


Wow. Historically, you don't want to discuss this.

P.S. - I'm not really sure what the fuss is about when it comes to the Lakers' history and its bearing on this current Lakers lineup, to be honest. The team hasn't won a championship without Magic Johnson or Shaq in 37 years.

If we are going to make idiotic arguments, why don't we go all the way? The Lakers have never won a championship without Shaq, Magic, West or Mikan.

And the Suns have never won a championship WITH Walter Davis, Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash, Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson, Alvan Adams, Tom Chambers, Connie Hawkins, Dan Majerle, Dick Van Arsdale, Shawn Marion or Paul Westphal.

This is fun!

 

[abomb]

1990 -- defeated LA Lakers, 4-1, conference semifinals

Any Lakers fan will tell you THAT is the one that hurt.

 

[Mulli]

Donald, no response for the "Lakers play the triangle just like the Bulls did" comment?

I call bias!


How have the Lakers fared in series not including Magic, Kobe, and Shaq? That is what I wouldn't like to know.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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He was killing younglings outside the Superdome.

is he gonna wear that in between every game between now and post-olympics when he finally gets that thing fixed? i gotta say, if not, it's just ridiculous. if he says he can play all those games (remaining season, post-season, and olympics) then all the bitching about the all-star game is just stupid.

 

[Mulli]

is he gonna wear that in between every game between now and post-olympics when he finally gets that thing fixed? i gotta say, if not, it's just ridiculous. if he says he can play all those games (remaining season, post-season, and olympics) then all the bitching about the all-star game is just stupid.

Is Kobe wearing a cape in that pic or a burping towel?

 

[D-Dogg]

is he gonna wear that in between every game between now and post-olympics when he finally gets that thing fixed? i gotta say, if not, it's just ridiculous. if he says he can play all those games (remaining season, post-season, and olympics) then all the bitching about the all-star game is just stupid.

I think he's going to wear it as long as there is swelling, or when the swelling flares back up.

I saw a pic somewhere of the pinky, it looked like a thumb. With that said, I think the darth arm is a bit excessive, but I'm also not a multi-million dollar franchise player.

 

[D-Dogg]

Is Kobe wearing a cape in that pic or a burping towel?

haha

It's the darth cape but it hadn't been dyed black yet.

 

[Darth Llama]

Donald, no response for the "Lakers play the triangle just like the Bulls did" comment?

I don't know who you're claiming said that, but if it's reference to my post, you should read it again. I said they use the same type of offense, they don't run it "just like the bulls." They don't even run it the same way they did when they had Shaq. Of course, most Suns fans don't understand anything other then run as fast as we can and shoot before the play clock gets down to 15 sec rather we have a good shot or not, so what's the point in even discussing it?

 

[Mulli]

I don't know who you're claiming said that, but if it's reference to my post, you should read it again. I said they use the same type of offense, they don't run it "just like the bulls." They don't even run it the same way they did when they had Shaq. Of course, most Suns fans don't understand anything other then run as fast as we can and shoot before the play clock gets down to 15 sec rather we have a good shot or not, so what's the point in even discussing it?

I know you said it. And I can't think of any reason to discuss the fact that both run a version of the triangle. Has little to no relevance at all.