Putting Week 2 In Perspective

[TJ]

You actually quoted me on this. Ironic because you were the only one to respond to the post.

Didnt see that there. Sorry. At least we agree on this.

Yeah one at a time. But that beat down is impossible to put into perspective, unless the team accomplishes something dramatically well to erase it.

Let me put it this way. You're right, we NEED to p/u AT LEAST two of the next three. Going into the bye 2-3 is unacceptable, especially with the whipping the team took in ATL.

Agree

As Mitch pointed out, the CHARACTER of the team is in question and on the table, right now.

Mitch and I agree on this subject. As I alluded to in a previous post, this team may have just checked out mentally last game. It is an argument that treads water because they just didnt look sharp at all.

An opening home W against a mediocre team will not erase it. But we need something to build on. Hopefully in convincing fashion. VERY CONVINCING FASHION!

Certainly. Next game is a must win. If we lose, we are reeling big time. This would prove that we are a third-tier team in the league, and that's a scary proposition.

 

[Duckjake]

I totally disagree with this reasoning! The Cardinals certainly aren't going to win with the offense they displayed on Sunday!

A successful running team scores touchdowns, controls the clock, shortens the game, and wins! Further, successfully running the ball opens the field up for play action and deep pass plays.

Week after week, I see teams (not just the Cardinals) give up on the run because they are down two touchdowns (sometimes less) in the first quarter! And they give up control of the game by playing catch-up. If you are designed to run the ball, do what you do best and continue to do it. This early in the game it doesn't matter how quickly you score, but that you do score.

If it's the fourth quarter and your team is down by two touchdowns, then it's time to pass, pass, pass...

And if your defense can't stop the other teams offense, then you aren't going to win, anyway!

Without a defense to hold down the other teams offense you cannot stick to the run and win no matter the score. No team has done that in the NFL in years. You get behind and you can't catch up. K9 has posted the numbers on how many top rushers made the playoffs last season vs the top passers.

As for your last sentence you forgot to add unless you are the Arizona Cardinals of 2008 and 2009.

 

[40yearfan]

DJ, you wise beyond your years. It's as simple as that. We need to out score our opponent. With this defense that means we have to score a lot. A ball control, run the ball approach will only see us fall 10 , 14, or 17 points behind and then it's over.
I said it in another post. we will NOT see one game where this team scores 30 points. If we do it will be because we had a pick 6, punt return for a td and a kickoff returned for a td.

Not necessarily. You can gain a lot of wisdom in 80 some odd years.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Why is this constantly stated around here? Yet we have yet to see that happen?

Also judging Beanie by what we have seen in his carries in pre season he does not look either faster or stronger. I know duckjake commented on it all pre season as well.

I like me some Well's. He is more talented than Timmy for sure. However we have yet to see the real explosiveness you all claim IMO. Hes gonna have to break off some 50+ yarders soon for me to be a believer.

DITTO!

To this point, Beanie has been slightly more than a no-show as a Cardinal... He needs to start producing - SOON!!

 

[Duckjake]

Not necessarily. You can gain a lot of wisdom in 80 some odd years.

Only you would know.

 

[CardLogic]

Without a defense to hold down the other teams offense...

Without a defense that makes a few stops when needed it doesn't matter whether you've got Peyton Manning, a kicker that can consistently hit 90 yard field goals, or Jim freakin' Brown! And I stated that in previous posts.

The only point I am stating is that teams give up on the run game too quickly in games in which they fall behind. Obviously, if you remain behind as the game progresses at some point you must abandon the running game. I think that in many cases, with many team/coaches that decision is made far too early in the course of a game.

As for your last sentence you forgot to add unless you are the Arizona Cardinals of 2008 and 2009.

They did come close to this at times...