Q requests trade again?

[Pariah]

I'm not sure we can give him a bonus? Didn't the 49ers get fined for doing that in the past?

I think the bonus would have to be as part of a new deal and he claims he won't negotiate with us.

For $1M I'm sure he'd sign a contract that duplicates what's left on his current contract with the bonus attached. Shouldn't be hard, IMO.

As an added bonus, I think it'd make him much more likely to be open to negotiations for a new contract with the team at a later date.

 

[82CardsGrad]

What really irritates me is it seems this whole dam team went to some secret meeting and decided they were all gonna demand more money whether their contract was up or not.. Im not even sure if Im watching football anymore.. It seems like this forum is contract negotiations central.. We dont even get to talk about the play as much as we do contracts.. And these jerks havent even won anything..

I agree Gee... Dockett and Wilson are in the same boat here. Difference is Dockett has already been told to go pound sand... He'll be gone once his contract expires... Wilson was told the team will negotiate a new deal at the end of this season, so we'll see what happens there...

But yea - NFL players are generally a joke these days...

 

[Skkorpion]

So much anger and angst. I read all the posts out of respect for my fellow fans. But, as Darren Urban wrote this morning, there is nothing new here and nothing to really get upset about.

It's the business end of sports showing its ugly side. No team in any sport on any continent is immune to it.

The real shocker and front runner for franchise stupidity of the year office was the Bengals bringing back WR Chris Henry.

 

[Russ Smith]

So much anger and angst. I read all the posts out of respect for my fellow fans. But, as Darren Urban wrote this morning, there is nothing new here and nothing to really get upset about.

It's the business end of sports showing its ugly side. No team in any sport on any continent is immune to it.

The real shocker and front runner for franchise stupidity of the year office was the Bengals bringing back WR Chris Henry.

The Henry situation is ridiculous, the Bengals are idiots.

now with us why are people angry? how about the fact that this team hasn't had a winning season since 98, we finally appear ready to turn the corner, and as Gee said it's like the players had a secret meeting where they all agreed to demand more money.

Since last year we're dealing with Fitz, Wilson, Dockett, Boldin, seems like almost every core player we have seems to think hey we went 8-8 I deserve a raise.

How about we actually win a playoff game or two before the players ask to renegotiate again?

 

[john h]

Chris Mortenson just reported on Monday Night Countdown that Q has went to management again asking to be traded. I'm assuming this happened in the last week or few days. Management said NO!! This is going to get ugly before too long, if this report is true. Maybe it's time to do it!!! I luv #81 for everything he does for the team and on the field, but he is nuts if he thinks he deserves to be taken care of before Dansby.

If Q is going to cause a lot of trouble for the team (and he can just like Manram for the Bosox) something must be done. If he will still play up to his potential and be a team player then keep him until his contract expires. I am with management what ever they do as they have done more than right by him in my opinion.

 

[Russ Smith]

If Q is going to cause a lot of trouble for the team (and he can just like Manram for the Bosox) something must be done. If he will still play up to his potential and be a team player then keep him until his contract expires. I am with management what ever they do as they have done more than right by him in my opinion.

agree. That was one of the things I always complained about with Jake, when he brought up money it ticked me off because the club always took care of him so he never had to deal with being underpaid. He never had a reason to complain about the cards being cheap to him, hell they overspent on him to the detriment of the team.

Anquan is kind of similar the cards re-did his deal when they weren't required to do so, they treated him fairly. He's a team leader this can be much more distracting than if it were some other players on the team.

I really hope Anquan takes a step back and realizes what he's doing here. It's not too late.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

If it has come to such an impasse that trading Q is the only option I would rather do that now than later. As the season progresses, and if he gets injured, his possible trade value could diminish. Plus a wr corp of Fitz, Breaston, and Early/Urban doesnt exactly put the fear of god into any opposing DC.

 

[CardLogic]

Actually, I think Boldin really wants to be traded because he knows he'll never make top-dollar when he's on the same team as Fitz.

That is a definite possibility and is part of the issue with Boldin; but whether or not it's true the way it's being played has got Rosenhaus' fingerprints all over it.

Boldin is a big boy and it is his signature on Drews pay check, not the other way around. anything Drew does for his clients is an extention of his clients thus his clients are every bit at fault and in this case even more at fault considering Drew is their employee and works for them.

I don't disagree with your basic premise joe. However, looking at the contract "negotiations" of more than a few of Rosenhaus' clients a pattern shows itself.

Sure Rosenhaus works for the client, but just like any average joe ( ) whom hires a lawyer; the attorney asks, "What is your objective?" (In this case, let's just assume, to be paid #1 WR money.) The attorney then tells the client, "Ok, then here is our plan and what you need to do, and say."

Of course, the client can modify the attorney's plan, but it follows that if you are paying a significant amount to someone for their advice, then you are likely to follow that advice.

I am not absolving Boldin of responsibility in this, I am just stating that his current tactics are typical Rosenhaus tactics. We've seen this show before!

 

[joeshmo]

So much anger and angst. I read all the posts out of respect for my fellow fans. But, as Darren Urban wrote this morning, there is nothing new here and nothing to really get upset about.

There is a lot of new info. 3 weeks ago Boldin said he hasnt reached the point asking for a trade, now he is demanding it. 3 weeks ago he only blasted the front office, now he is blasting the head coach.

All very new info.

 

[joeshmo]

I am not absolving Boldin of responsibility in this, I am just stating that his current tactics are typical Rosenhaus tactics. We've seen this show before!

But Boldin knew exactly the type of tactics and the type of agent Drew was before he hired him. There for it is Boldin who agrees with those tactics before even picking Drew in the first place. It is all on Boldin for anything Drew does or says becuase of that fact.

 

[Bigdez22]

I can't stand how everyone is comparing his 2.75M salary to Fitz. Why are you not adding his signing bonus prorated? Why are you not adding in the fact that if he was smart, he should have never negotiated that deal in the first place. He would have tag thrown on him and would have gotten his money last year just like Fitz!

So now it's the Cards fault for ripping up his old contract and giving him a new one, and giving him 10M to sign his name in GOOD FAITH? Please, anyone who takes the players side on this needs to have their head checked out by a professional.

Also, don't get me started on the "I was lied to" B.S. As a fan we were all lied to by the majestic Q several weeks ago when he said he was going to put this behind him and play football.

I would love to see the team suspend him for 4 games for conduct detrimental to the team. I do not want to see him traded, I don't care what we get in return. There needs to be a standard set that no one player is above the team.

Remember, we own his rights for AT LEAST the next 3 years. After that we can still tag him and he doesn't have to sign the tender, but he will not get paid. These athletes are all the same, once that paycheck stops coming in the crappy 2.75M a year starts to add up quickly.

This is a joke. I wish Q would leave camp and not come back.

I cant believe I spent 150+ last year on a Boldin Jersey.......Never again

 

[ajcardfan]

There is a lot of new info. 3 weeks ago Boldin said he hasnt reached the point asking for a trade, now he is demanding it. 3 weeks ago he only blasted the front office, now he is blasting the head coach.

All very new info.

Yeah, I have to disagree with Urban on that. This is definitely different than 3 weeks ago. When you have a player telling the press he has "no relationship" with his coach, and, even worse, basically saying that coach wasn't doing his job right, you now have a bigger problem. It's defiance, it's put Whisenhunt on the spot. He HAS to respond in a way that the team will respect.

Three weeks ago, Whisenhunt backed up Boldin. Boldin responded by throwing him under the bus.

 

[Buckybird]

I really hope Anquan takes a step back and realizes what he's doing here. It's not too late.

It's too late!!! He called out his Head Coach!!! Get him the f#@k outta here!!!

 

[Russ Smith]

It's too late!!! He called out his Head Coach!!! Get him the f#@k outta here!!!

A lot can be forgiven. Look at Kobe and the Lakers, he did everything he could to get traded, and then wound up quite happy in the end.

It's still not to the point where fences cant' be mended IMHO.

 

[Buckybird]

A lot can be forgiven. Look at Kobe and the Lakers, he did everything he could to get traded, and then wound up quite happy in the end.

It's still not to the point where fences cant' be mended IMHO.

I don't remember Kobe or Chad saying the things that Quan said in the media. Calling ownership liars and telling your HC to "mind your own business" gets you you're walking papers.

 

[PoolBoy]

I think Q will be traded before the Raiders game for some reason. I say we sign Joe Horn, who just got released, or another veteran WR as a safety blanket and trade Q for a good CB and a 3rd rounder.

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't remember Kobe or Chad saying the things that Quan said in the media. Calling ownership liars and telling your HC to "mind your own business" gets you you're walking papers.

I thought Kobe specifically said the Lakers promised to get better players and didn't so they lied to him?

of course he also demanded a trade and then said he'd been misquoted so maybe he's a bad example to use.

 

[cgolden]

Win a couple of games, get on a roll and this will all go away until after the season. On the other hand, if they stumble out of the gates, all heck could break loose.

 

[CardLogic]

But Boldin knew exactly the type of tactics and the type of agent Drew was before he hired him. There for it is Boldin who agrees with those tactics before even picking Drew in the first place. It is all on Boldin for anything Drew does or says becuase of that fact.

I don't disagree with you, joe! As a stated in the previous post, "I am not absolving Boldin of responsibility."

What I am merely pointing out is that the tactics are typical for Rosenhaus and many of his clients. So I am not surprised by the current state of things with Boldin and the Cardinals. Q's actions are part of a calculated plan by him and his agent. I don't even believe that Boldin is all that upset with the Cardinals, it is just part of the plan to attempt to maximize his (their) income potential.

In my opinion, there are more honest, and by that criteria better, ways of doing business.

 

[joeshmo]

It's still not to the point where fences cant' be mended IMHO.

If they act like adults, fences can always be mended over something as trivial as this.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

If Chad Johnson can do all he did this post-season and still suit up as a Cincinnati Bengal, it's not entirely far fetched to think Q will be a Cardinal come the season opener.

I think if this distraction continues, it's in the best to make a trade, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if he remains a Cardinal.

 

[overseascardfan]

No way, Mitch. What are you thinking? Jackson can't run routes or hang on to the ball. Horrible trade for us.

I'll trade Q to the Cowboys (so that he go to a first rate organization and win a title) for Mike Jenkins AND Felix Jones. Nothing less. I'd even throw in a 3rd round pick to the cowboys.

If we had to trade him this is the only deal I like. Jenkins and DRC would be an awesome tandem and Felix Jones would be a great compliment to Egde. Breaston and Doucet would get us through the year, get another WR in the offseason.

If DAL won't pony them up then keep Q as there isn' another deal out there that would justify dealing him.

 

[TJ]

its one of espn.com's top stories now......wonderful

Rosenhaus must have called in a favor

 

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[Buckybird]

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NICE!!!!!!