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Tim Hightower played well when in, if the o-line is blocking better he would have pretty good stats.
Watson had a good pre season.
Williams #92 when he gets his speed up is a monster.
Williams #14 is a wow factor.
DA looks like he can play at this level. I hope he can. Throws hard but still catchable unless to high.
Lienart didn't want to be there last night. I'm a backer but he needs a new situation. I still think he can start somewhere, just not here.
The Bean didn't get many carries. He is not doing anything exciting could it be o-line?
Whiz and Grim better figure out the o-line starters soon.

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No way. He overthrew that ball.

Yes, he did. He overthrew it (barely) but still, many receivers make that catch. And it wasn't quite the bullet some people are making it out to be. It had a little zip on it but he usually throws harder than that, IMO.

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1)OT's-can we just say that in 2011 draft we need a few & high. Levi, Keith, Bridges & Big Baby all struggled in pass protection.

2)Daryl Washington-instinctive & if the Dline continues keeping blockers off of him will be very, very good as a rookie.

3)Hall-Has "it"!!! Understands football & I feel good with him as our backup QB this year.

4)Iwebema-continues took make plays, a major contributor this season.

5)Cody Brown-Cant get off blocks. Show no burst & appears to have no instincts as a OLB & gives little effort.

6)Anderson-Since being named starter, he has been impressive. Been throwing guys open the last 2 games. The passes to Doucet & Williams were great!!!

7)Calias-BEASTLY!!! I think we see him surpass DD as the Cards best Dlineman

8)Beisel-showed tonight he may be back to where he was 2 years ago.

9)Graham-He's now a core player, a weapon!!! 13-21 inside the 20yd line in preseason.

10)Leinart needs to be cut, his time in Az is over & him being on the roster serves no purpose.

Calais indeed looked good but I do not see him passing Dockett anytime soon as a better DL. Dockett is perhaps the best or at least in the top three at his position in the NL. Signing him long term was one of the major moves of the season and shows this is not the old Arizona Cardinals. They look to the future. When is the last time we signed a DL to a longterm contract at big numbers most of which are guaranteed? Graves did it but you can be sure Michael Bidwill approved it. This apple (Michael) did fall far from the tree.
Good move Michael Bidwill.
 

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Perfect pass by Leinart dropped by Williams. Pretty much the only time he's dropped anything and it just happens to be when Leinart's throwing him the ball? Sendlein doesn't even try to block a blitzing LB?

Leinart needs to hope that he's cut at this point.

The o-line looks pathetic and the running game is going to really suffer with Wells hurt. There is a lot more to be worried about than Leinart being run out of town on a rail.

How many years does Grimm need to develop a solid line? Not great, just solid. They still have trouble blocking 5 on 4.

Was there a point in the game when we had all our starting offensive line in the game at one time? In the second half our running game picked up a little with some of those young runners in there. Obviously they were running for a spot on the team which you can be sure was all out and take no prisoners. We ended the game relatively healthy other than Wells which may be nothing. That is important. Our game next week is not against the same old team we played last year. They look much improved to me and better than Seattle.
 

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Matt Leinart is the best qb we have by a landslide.

False, and I like Toast. He's the most consistent QB we have, but he's not the best by a landslide. His peaks aren't as high as DA's peaks, and his valleys aren't as low. But it isn't a landslide. Neither is something spectacular. Besides that, he doesn't appear to have command of the team, which is to be expected giving the swirling speculation around him. There's no landslide, or even remotely close.
 

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Went right through both hands. Shoulda caught it.

Through fingertips and through hands are VASTLY different things, especially when the QB throws with such velocity. You aren't making fingertip catches off the ball DA rockets in there.

The pass to early was a thing of beauty, followed up by a ball thrown too hard and outside to be fingertip caught by a wide open TE.
 

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Through fingertips and through hands are VASTLY different things, especially when the QB throws with such velocity. You aren't making fingertip catches off the ball DA rockets in there.

The pass to early was a thing of beauty, followed up by a ball thrown too hard and outside to be fingertip caught by a wide open TE.

Was always taught that if the ball hits your fingers, you are expected to make the catch - period... However, it was by far an ideal throw. Way too much sauce on it. Spach was wide open and the throw could have/should have been better placed...
 

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Yes, he did. He overthrew it (barely) but still, many receivers make that catch. And it wasn't quite the bullet some people are making it out to be. It had a little zip on it but he usually throws harder than that, IMO.

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Through fingertips and through hands are VASTLY different things, especially when the QB throws with such velocity. You aren't making fingertip catches off the ball DA rockets in there.

The pass to early was a thing of beauty, followed up by a ball thrown too hard and outside to be fingertip caught by a wide open TE.

Should a been a catch. No excuse. NONE!
 

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Was always taught that if the ball hits your fingers, you are expected to make the catch - period... However, it was by far an ideal throw. Way too much sauce on it. Spach was wide open and the throw could have/should have been better placed...

I dont think that rule pertains to TE's lol. Well maybe one or two TE's every 20 years or so. Spach is not that.
 

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Was always taught that if the ball hits your fingers, you are expected to make the catch - period... However, it was by far an ideal throw. Way too much sauce on it. Spach was wide open and the throw could have/should have been better placed...

Exactly. I think Larry could have made the catch, and yes it *should* be made but the bottom line is it is a staple of the bad part of DA...wide open guys that he botches the throw on. It should have been thrown with touch. You can throw hard with touch and accuracy...DA needs to improve there.

Again, I can't say enough about the throw to Doucet that basically was PERFECTLY placed in traffic.
 

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Should a been a catch. No excuse. NONE!

Again, strongly disagree. When you are wide open, you shouldn't have to make a fingertip catch that is thrown too hard. Contrary to popular belief, not every ball you touch you can catch.

Was it Breaston's fault when DA missed him in the end zone too?
 

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Exactly. I think Larry could have made the catch, and yes it *should* be made but the bottom line is it is a staple of the bad part of DA...wide open guys that he botches the throw on. It should have been thrown with touch. You can throw hard with touch and accuracy...DA needs to improve there.

Again, I can't say enough about the throw to Doucet that basically was PERFECTLY placed in traffic.


Don't disagree at all... It's gonna take a good deal of work and dedication from the coaches and DA to re-configure his mind in order to program it so that he instinctively let's off the gas pedal when it's appropriate to do so. You just know that Kurt would have floated that one perfectly into Spach's chest... damn you Kurt - you SO spoiled us!!
 

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Should have been a good throw. No excuse. NONE!

Nope. Put the ball in a position for the player to make a play. The player didn't make it. Don't care if he's a TE.
 

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RE: Max Hall. I'm w/DEMSMYBOYS on this one...

The kid has a "feel" for the game. Yeah, I know. Playing against scrubs, locking on too much, etc. But his thought process, even at this point, was quick and decisive. ...And this is before he's learned alot of the nuances of the pro-game. I saw escapability in the pocket and yet he kept looking down-field for someone open. Again, that's instinct. The play just seemed to flow till its' conclusion. ...And the genuine excitement on the bench from the players?? Absolutely! The team fed off what he was doing and they all celebrated together! GREAT moment! :) I feel very good that this kids' is going to develop into something special in the next 2-3 years. GO CARDS! :D
 

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Has Cody Brown even had is name called all pre-season? I can't remember an announcer even saying his name. Epic bust for a 2nd rounder so soon. Yeah, the injury thing was a bummer, but he should have shown more by this point.
 

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Nope. Put the ball in a position for the player to make a play. The player didn't make it. Don't care if he's a TE.

Nope. Put the ball in position for the player to ONLY make a highlight reel catch. The player didn't make it. Don't care if it hit his fingertips, the QB didn't make a good throw.

If there were a safety on Spach's shoulder, I'd understand the placement of the ball there, but he was wide open. THAT is on the QB. Making balls difficult to catch is an issue, there's no doubt about it. It would be different if it were just an oddity, but this is the book on DA. He was bailed out in his pro bowl year by ridiculous catches by edwards and winslow, and he misses guys badly. The upside is he can throw bombs downfield and throw some great passes with the bad. We are going to see A LOT of this. But we will move the chains.

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