R I S E ___ U P ___ D A R K ___ S I D E (2011)

[LVG]

The QB's are calling all the plays. Miller is up in the booth playing Black Ops and Whiz is coaching him through it.

"Ok Mike now proceed north but watch out for Campers. Stay low, STAY LOW, NOOOO YOU NOOB!"

This explains quite a lot actually.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I thought Miller was running simulations on Madden up in the booth and then relaying them down to the field.

 

[Stout]

Just for Curiosity sake could it be he's relaying plays from Miller up in the booth?

I hope not, because that is a recipe for a lot of delay of game penalties and crossed signals.

 

[Duckjake]

Sadly I don't see that the Cards have done anything to be better than they were last season.

Same RB who falls down every time he cuts. Same WRs who can't get open. Same offensive line that can't block. Same aging LB corps that can't get pressure on the passer. Suspect at best secondary. And a QB that like his recent predecessors can't complete 60% of his passes and panics whenever a defender gets close to him.

Overall we're basically hitching our bandwagon to Kevin Kolb and I think we are going to be sorely disappointed.

They'll still be fun to watch and there will still be awesome pre game festivities and I'll be behind them 110% but I don't think they win 5 games.

 

[Chopper0080]

Sadly I don't see that the Cards have done anything to be better than they were last season.

Same RB who falls down every time he cuts. Same WRs who can't get open. Same offensive line that can't block. Same aging LB corps that can't get pressure on the passer. Suspect at best secondary. And a QB that like his recent predecessors can't complete 60% of his passes and panics whenever a defender gets close to him.

Overall we're basically hitching our bandwagon to Kevin Kolb and I think we are going to be sorely disappointed.

They'll still be fun to watch and there will still be awesome pre game festivities and I'll be behind them 110% but I don't think they win 5 games.

Decent QB play can improve a team quite a bit. I share your caution, but I look at our division and see that we have the 2nd best QB, and best WR corp. Also as sad as it may seem, we do have the best secondary as well.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Decent QB play can improve a team quite a bit. I share your caution, but I look at our division and see that we have the 2nd best QB, and best WR corp.

you think our WR corp is better than Sidney Rice, Mike Williams and Zach Miller up in Seattle? I think you could argue that Braylon Edwards, Crabtree and Vernon Davis is arguably as good as our talent at reciever as well. I think we're pretty even with both of those teams as to all around talent.

Also as sad as it may seem, we do have the best secondary as well.

that is sad but i'm still not sure this can be said with much confidence. Mike Adams and A.J. Jefferson are starters on the depth chart. That's got to be the worst corner combo in the league.

 

[Chopper0080]

you think our WR corp is better than Sidney Rice, Mike Williams and Zach Miller up in Seattle? I think you could argue that Braylon Edwards, Crabtree and Vernon Davis is arguably as good as our talent at reciever as well. I think we're pretty even with both of those teams as to all around talent.

I have watched plenty of Sidney Rice to know that he is closer to Andre Roberts than Larry Fitzgerald Braylon Edwards is hard to evaluate, but I don;t see him as a reliable 1. Mike Williams only dominates us, and Crabtree has done as much in this league as Early Doucet. Vernon Davis is easily the best TE in our division. Zach Miller is overrated in my book. Fitzgerald goes a long way in my book.

that is sad but i'm still not sure this can be said with much confidence. Mike Adams and A.J. Jefferson are starters on the depth chart. That's got to be the worst corner combo in the league.

Mike Adams won't be starting, and I will put our top 4 (Jefferson, Peterson, Marshall and Adams) against San Fran (Carlos Rogers, Shawntae Spencer, Tarrell Brown, Tramaine Brock) or St Louis (Al Harris, Ron Bartell, Justin King and Bradley Fletcher) or Seattle (Trufant, Walter Thurmond, Richard Sherman and Brandon Browner).

Just my opinions.

 

[splitsecond]

Our linebackers, inside and outside, can't shed blocks to save their lives and will be the undoing of this team all season long..

 

[conraddobler]

Our linebackers, inside and outside, can't shed blocks to save their lives and will be the undoing of this team all season long..

Except for Washington yes I've mentioned this glaring hole in our plans a few times now.

 

[splitsecond]

well, washington isn't playing today.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Decent QB play can improve a team quite a bit. I share your caution, but I look at our division and see that we have the 2nd best QB, and best WR corp. Also as sad as it may seem, we do have the best secondary as well.

Look at the division. The Cards have the worst HC and coaching staff. Yes I will take PC over Whisenhunt without hesitation. Whisenhunt has dismantled a playoff football team, rebuilt it his way and fails to develop talent properly.

 

[conraddobler]

Look at the division. The Cards have the worst HC and coaching staff. Yes I will take PC over Whisenhunt without hesitation. Whisenhunt has dismantled a playoff football team, rebuilt it his way and fails to develop talent properly.

Nonsense, he's an engineer.

It's all part of a great plan that you obviously have failed to fully appreciate, all will be revealed at a later date.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

We are trailing the "mighty" Seahawks ?! Really ?!

 

[AzStevenCal]

We are trailing the "mighty" Seahawks ?! Really ?!

I'm just surprised more people didn't see this coming (a struggle, not necessarily a loss). Our defense could be right down there with the worst in the league so we have no choice but to rely on the other side of the ball. As for our offense, we have no run game and our O Line can't pass block. This doesn't seem like a recipe for success to me.

Steve

 

[conraddobler]

I'm just surprised more people didn't see this coming (a struggle, not necessarily a loss). Our defense could be right down there with the worst in the league so we have no choice but to rely on the other side of the ball. As for our offense, we have no run game and our O Line can't pass block. This doesn't seem like a recipe for success to me.

Steve

Seattle is just plain bad, losing to them is nearly unfathomable.

Yet this team does one thing well, turn the unfathomable into the fathomable.... is fathomable a word?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

You need to score more than 10 points to win most NFL games. UGLY.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Seattle is just plain bad, losing to them is nearly unfathomable.

Yet this team does one thing well, turn the unfathomable into the fathomable.... is fathomable a word?

It certainly is and losing to Seattle is fathomable IMO. We were dominated by a very average (at best) Washington team although a couple of huge turnovers helped to hide that fact. After watching our first two games, I think the best we could hope for this year is to become an average team. But playing on the road without Beanie puts us right there in the bottom tier with the Seahawks. Win or lose, there just isn't that much of a difference between the lowly Seahawks and today's Cardinals team.

Steve

 

[conraddobler]

It certainly is and losing to Seattle is fathomable IMO. We were dominated by a very average (at best) Washington team although a couple of huge turnovers helped to hide that fact. After watching our first two games, I think the best we could hope for this year is to become an average team. But playing on the road without Beanie puts us right there in the bottom tier with the Seahawks. Win or lose, there just isn't that much of a difference between the lowly Seahawks and today's Cardinals team.

Steve

This team was built by one person in the main, CKW to me won't be a good coach until he has a meltdown and has a come to Jesus moment with himself where he learns what it takes to really be a good HC.

I hope out of the ashes for two things this year, CKW has that meltdown and the ones above him who deserve to be IMO fired are fired.

Then we have a chance to build something, not until IMO.

 

[Stout]

Oh no, we suck again! And no, I'm not joking--we effing BLOW.

 

[conraddobler]

Oh no, we suck again! And no, I'm not joking--we effing BLOW.

LOL.

Gallows humor..

 

[MrYeahBut]

Stupid Cardinals

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I was looking forward to PP21 getting a pick 6 ... and he took a knee ??

Stupid Cardinals.

 

[Darkside]

Adub told him to and he did. Whis said he wanted PP to run it back.

 

[Darkside]

And just for the record, we don't really blow as many chunks as people think. Our offense doesn't know Kolb, our defense doesn't know Horton and the rooks just don't know anything. And with no offseason this is what inevitably happens. I wouldn't, by any stretch of the imagination, hope for miracles this season, but they'll get in better sync midway through and the latter part of the season.

 

[Duckjake]

And just for the record, we don't really blow as many chunks as people think. Our offense doesn't know Kolb, our defense doesn't know Horton and the rooks just don't know anything. And with no offseason this is what inevitably happens. I wouldn't, by any stretch of the imagination, hope for miracles this season, but they'll get in better sync midway through and the latter part of the season.

Right, our offense doesn't know Kolb, our Defense doesn't know Horton and the rooks don't know anything and that's is why we stink as bad as many people think right now.

Of course the reason nobody knows anybody is that of the 22 starters from the playoff game vs Green Bay only 2.5 are left at the same position on offense and 4 on Defense. 6.5 out of 22. That's some rapid turnover.