Rajon Rondo = Biggest Mistake in Suns History!

[shazaam6]

Completely incorrect, D'antoni told Sarver and co. that Rondo wouldn't get any time. And I specifically remember him saying that he's "not in the business of developing rookies" in an interview.

On another note, people still believe that Sarver sold picks "as multi-million dollar bonus gifts to himself?" Maybe a penny saved is a penny earned for him. Really? I guess the Suns having one of the highest current payrolls in the league means nothing. Means he's been stupid, which costs just as much or more but leaves the Suns with less talent.
And no, I'm not a big Sarver fan myself. I just don't think he's as cheap as many people think. He is definitely not the brightest of owners, but I can't describe him as cheap. Dumb? Yeah. Cheap? No.

 

[dodie53]

i hope the suns doesn't sell any more picks in teh future

 

[BC867]

I give the Suns a pass on that one because Johnson pretty much forced a trade and had a league-wide reputation as a troublemaker.

Coach John MacLeod was comfortable coaching only passive, obedient players.

Jerry Colangelo catered to him and moved both Dennis Johnson and Maurice Lucas.

DJ and Luke were aggressive. Y'know, the kind who win Championships (yes, they both got rings elsewhere).

That group of Walter Davis and DJ in the backcourt, with Larry Nance (the first of the 6'10" Small Forwards), Mo Lucas and James Edwards in the frontcourt could have been awesome.

I was heartbroken when Colangelo and MacLeod broke them up . . . for 3rd string Center Rick Robey and undersized Power Forward Truck Robinson.

No pass for Suns management on that one.

 

[elindholm]

Coach John MacLeod was comfortable coaching only passive, obedient players.

Johnson's reputation was cemented long before he got to the Suns. Part of the reason Seattle made him available in the first place was that they were sick of him too. Do some reading on him.

I was heartbroken when Colangelo and MacLeod broke them up . . . for 3rd string Center Rick Robey and undersized Power Forward Truck Robinson.

Lucas replaced Robinson, not the other way around.

You'd think that someone so stuck in the past would remember it with greater accuracy.

 

[Bufalay]

Things could've been worse. The Suns could've drafted Bowie and Oden.

 

[cly2tw]

Rondo was given time and was allowed to "learn" on court along with the Celtics Big 3... Rivers also gave him plenty of lecturing and motivation.

If Suns kept Rondo, he would be on the bench wasted.... not developing.


Any rookies can be developed when given huge roles..


Also, Rondo isnt MVP type point guard. He isnt a Nash, Kidd, Payton, KJ etc.
He is a system, elite role playing point guard.... just like Stockton... Stockton will go down as the protoytpe perfect PG, ideal skill sets etc. Rondo is similar to that but both do not have the "carry entire" team role like other PGs do.

Parker is an offensive skewed version of Rondo... basically they are 2nd tier type "stars". Cant carry a team as 1st option.... Rondo has the defensive impact... Parker has the scoring skills... etc.

True. It makes you wonder whether a team having a PG as the best player can ever win a championship. Parker and Rondo have, Stockton almost got one were it not for MJ's pushing off Russell for the winning shot in game 6 of the finals. I wonder whether Suns could have won a title already if Parker, Rondo or Stockton had replace Nash the last two years.

 

[Folster]

Fine. Keep complaining about the past. There's plenty of bad things that have happened since the Rondo fiasco and especially after the Igoudala one. 3 years of constant complaining is enough, don't you think?

This ain't nothing. Just wait till OKC gets our pick next year and it ends up being top 3. If it didn't mean the Suns would be horrible next year, then I would root for that scenario just to drive home the ineptitude of the front office in the last five years in regards to selling/giving away picks.

 

[leclerc]

Team situation has plenty to do with the potential success of a player. Who knows if Igoudala and Rondo would be as good for us as they've been on the Sixers and Celtics...

Talent evaluation and adjusting the system to player personnel have not been strong suits for us in recent years, but the worst mistake (still in recent years) has been selling draft picks.

That's the only way to be a 100% sure that a player will not be any good for us. It must stop now. And please get us some help scouting talent!!

 

[lou_skywalker]

what's the point destroying your brain cells regretting about the past?
You better start looking forward and hope that the FO doesn't repeat the same mistakes again.

 

[Maligzar]

Can we at least get our facts straight? Especially your criers.

The Suns DID NOT SELL THE RONDO PICK.

The Phoenix Suns announced today that they have traded the draft rights to Kentucky’s Rajon Rondo, the 21st pick overall in the 2006 NBA Draft, and the contract of forward/center Brian Grant to the Boston Celtics. In return, Phoenix will receive a future first round pick.

They sold the RODRIGUIEZ pick

In a separate deal, the Suns traded the draft rights to Spanish guard Sergio Rodriguez, the 27th pick overall, to the Portland Trail Blazers in exchange for cash considerations.

What? The crying sounds a little foolish over selling a draft pick for a guy who is averaging 4 points and 3 assists while shooting like crap.

Mike D'Antoni wasn't a good GM, but then again neither is Phil Jackson.

 

[shazaam6]

Ok thanks Maligzar.
They got rid of so many picks in so many ways it is hard to remember them all.

But giving KT and two first round picks to the Sonics is the all time panic save money move. Sonics traded KT for another first rounder from the Spurs. Nice doing business with the Suns. Subtraction by subtraction squared.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=txsunssonicstrade&prov=st&type=lgns


“We are doing everything we can to keep our core group together,” Suns president of basketball operations and general manager Steve Kerr said. “Sometimes in doing so, you have difficult decisions to make.”

 

[CaptainInsano]

I don't understand why it matters that you have to point out the difference between selling a draft pick to save 2 million (grants contract) and selling a draft pick to recieve 3 million. It is basically the same thing.

Selling a draft pick = making or saving money by selling a pick for some type of salary relief. When you save 2 million by losing a contract and don't have to pay to draft the player, that is called selling a draft pick.

 

[Bufalay]

Can we at least get our facts straight? Especially your criers.

The Suns DID NOT SELL THE RONDO PICK.



They sold the RODRIGUIEZ pick



What? The crying sounds a little foolish over selling a draft pick for a guy who is averaging 4 points and 3 assists while shooting like crap.

Mike D'Antoni wasn't a good GM, but then again neither is Phil Jackson.

They traded the Rondo pick for the Fernandez pick which they sold.

 

[elindholm]

Who knows, maybe in five years Spurs fans can cry about how their team sold the Dragic pick.

 

[leclerc]

Selling 1st round picks is a crime. 2nd round picks are more acceptable. One shouldn't cry about 2nd round picks that end up being star players. If not a single team in the league picked him when they had the chance so be it.

 

[FArting]

Robert Sarver buying the team.

 

[jandaman]

Rondo almost a triple double again... this guy is schooling Derrick Rose... understandably... a rookie in the playoffs...

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Rondo should be suspended for Game 6 regardless of outcome.

 

[hsandhu]

Rondo doesn't bother me as much as the others, simply because if the suns drafted rondo he would never have gotten an opportunity.

Rondo was very raw and needed A LOT of time and confidence to build him into the player he is today. Suns would never have given that to him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Just to throw in my 2 cents, Rondo very much reminds me of Gary Payton. Gary was known for his defense early on (The Glove) and developed his offensive game as time went on. I can't think of a better comparison at the present time.

 

[cly2tw]

Rondo doesn't bother me as much as the others, simply because if the suns drafted rondo he would never have gotten an opportunity.

Rondo was very raw and needed A LOT of time and confidence to build him into the player he is today. Suns would never have given that to him.

Right, because we have Nash, it makes it hard for any player to develop their games on the Suns team. DA saw that clearly and made the right decision to not "wanting in the business of developing young talents" and maximized the value for franchise by selling the picks. That's great management actually.

 

[Covert Rain]

Right, because we have Nash, it makes it hard for any player to develop their games on the Suns team. DA saw that clearly and made the right decision to not "wanting in the business of developing young talents" and maximized the value for franchise by selling the picks. That's great management actually.

Except, with Nash's contract being up soon, it would be nice to transition to Rondo around this particular point and time. He is light years better than Nash defensively and that would be step in the right direction to changing the focus of the team.

 

[cly2tw]

Except, with Nash's contract being up soon, it would be nice to transition to Rondo around this particular point and time. He is light years better than Nash defensively and that would be step in the right direction to changing the focus of the team.

Except, were he drafted by Suns, he'd be hated like Banks was and got frustrated and out of the league by now.

 

[Covert Rain]

Except, were he drafted by Suns, he'd be hated like Banks was and got frustrated and out of the league by now.

Completely different expectations. Banks was suppose to be a vet and was expected to contribute. The expectations around Rondo would not have been the same.

 

[Goldfield]

GET OVER IT! I'm so tired of all the whining about Rondo/Igoudala/etc.

The Suns f'ed up. Move on for chrissakes!

Yup big mistakes. The end.