Rams trade Goff, 2 1sts for Stafford

[Shane]

Stafford with a real OC and a Real O Line and a real set of WRs and a real set of RBs is plum scary.

lol... ehhhh he has always had good to great WRs.... having a D that can win games by itself is what matters most.

 

[Ronin]

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[juza76]

So the Rams pays an extra first round pick to get rid of Goff contract
I think Stafford cost wouldn't have been more then first and third

 

[cardpa]

Watson was a statistically top 5 QB mainly because the Texans D was the worst in the NFL so they were forced to throw the ball against teams playing soft zones protecting big leads. Odds are that Keim is gone if the Cardinals don’t win this year. Is anyone confident that should that happen, that MB will make a good choice hiring his replacement? I don’t. As long as a Bidwill owns the Cardinals, it’ll always be an uphill battle.

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[cardpa]

In nine seasons where Stafford started all 16 games he was sacked on average 37 times compared to Goff who in 4 seasons was sacked on average 25 times. Figure Stafford was probably hit (knocked down) a few more times than Goff and you realize with better protection Stafford is probably going to have a few pretty good seasons with the Rams and in addition a better running game in LA too. I think the Rams paid too much for Stafford but I also think they are now a better team with Stafford.

From a statistical standpoint both QBs are practically even in TD%, INT%, COMP% and right down the line for any other stat.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Well, now we’ll get to see if Stafford has just been hampered by a bad Lions squad or if he’s just a stat stuffer.

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[BullheadCardFan]

yes. Because now we have guaranteed losses to the Rams AND the Lions next year.

Sad, but true

 

[football karma]

waiting for the official acctg from OvertheCap, but it appears the trade has put both teams in a worse situation cap wise than before due to accelerated bonus charges

the Rams can restructure Staffords deal, but he only has two years left on his deal (21 and 22) -- so there are limits

what this does do is make it unlikely that Detroit resigns Marvin Jones or even Kenny Golliday --

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Several other teams pursued Matthew Stafford

The Rams got Matthew Stafford. Several other teams wanted him.

Peter King of NBC Sports reports that the Panthers were “very interested” in Stafford, and “competed for him.” Other teams, per King, who were interested in Stafford include the Broncos, Colts, and 49ers.

Nicki Jhabvala of the Washington Post reports that the Washington Football Team offered the Lions a package that was “better” for the Lions in 2021. Detroit receives only a 2021 third-round pick from the Rams this year, with first-rounders in 2022 and 2023.

It’s impossible to ask the question of whether one of the other teams interested in Stafford would have given up two first-round picks and a third-round pick for Stafford, because the Rams didn’t give up two first-round picks and a third-round pick for Stafford. The Rams gave up those picks in part to get the Lions to take on the contract of quarterback Jared Goff.

If the Lions had sent Stafford anywhere else, the Lions necessarily would have gotten less.

 

[football karma]

with this trade, and talk of "the long term" the Lions have just told their fans that they are stripping things down to the frame this offseason

they plan on clearing tons of cap space -- thats why they valued getting an extra 1st round pick by taking on a dumb contract -- they expect to have lots of cap space over the next couple years

 

[Mainstreet]

The good teams in the NBA use draft picks to go after the key players they want and fill in their roster afterwards. It tends to work.

A case could be made when you trade draft picks for players, it's safer because you know exactly who you are getting.

Also good markets tend to attract the best players in free agency.

 

[football karma]

i dunno how this works out for the Rams this offseason, but years of not adding top 32 talent, plus constant letting guys leave due to cap constraints will eventually catch up to them.......

the Rams traded a QB whose ceiling was limited, but whose floor was also high in Goff -- for a QB who makes great throws, but also makes some headscratchers as well -- more volatility on the highs and lows

it will be interesting to see how it works for them

 

[Krusher kardinals]

That's because the Cards had an inept gadget QB and the brains of Kliff hahahaha

True

 

[Krusher kardinals]

This is not good news. Stafford with McVay and that defense looks like we are further behind the Rams now.


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Stafford is 3-4-1 lifetime vs cardinals

 

[BritCard]

The dumbest thing about all this is that the Ram's didn't get a single year out of Goff's extension.

They used his 4 years and the 5th year option and saddled themselves with a $22m dead cap hit this year for nothing.

The aim is to win superbowls this move makes it more likely the Rams will win one in the short term, long term not so much. The Ram's were never going to win one with Goff. He has decent arm talent but the mental side just isn't there. Not good at reading defenses, not good under pressure.

 

[Ronin]

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[Russ Smith]

Didn't I read just last year that his back injury had him contemplating retirement? I guess he's recovered completely

Always had a great arm, sort of a less annoying Jeff George, so are the Rams his fit?

 

[kerouac9]

Didn't I read just last year that his back injury had him contemplating retirement? I guess he's recovered completely

Always had a great arm, sort of a less annoying Jeff George, so are the Rams his fit?

FWIW, I think he favorably compares to Carson Palmer in his later years with the Bengals.

Stafford, afaik, is a plus leader. George was a total dink and more in the Jay Cutler vein.

 

[TRW]

The Rams paid a steep price for an aging and, perhaps, marginally better QB IMO. It seems to show that McVay was done with Goff (if starting the AAF QB over him in the playoff game didn't already).

The Rams defense and their running game will help Stafford. He's a pretty good QB with a little Favre-like "WTF?" throws every so often.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Haha inwas reading rams forum and a lot of there fans hate the trade saying they got clowned by the lions

Very step price for Stafford with the picks that is more of a watson trade...

 

[Finito]

FWIW, I think he favorably compares to Carson Palmer in his later years with the Bengals.

Stafford, afaik, is a plus leader. George was a total dink and more in the Jay Cutler vein.

he’s a leader? Based on what?

 

[Chopper0080]

Imagine thinking you can play the long game in the NFC West. No one plays for next year in this division. That will get you fired.

 

[Chopper0080]

he’s a leader? Based on what?

Based on his quotes stating that he plays injured for a team out of the playoffs because he owes it to his teammates who are putting their bodies on the line and are playing for their contracts.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Stafford will excel in mcvay's offense, which is extremely QB friendly. Goff, on the other hand, will probably be benched (again) by midseason... dude just makes the worst decisions. Unbelievable haul by Detroit, and it says a lot how the teams perceived Goff as a negative asset.

 

[Chopper0080]

It's a horrible decision by the Rams. Stafford is better than Goff, but not by very much. He is older and more injury prone. They have no 1st round picks in the near future.

Disagree.