Randy Moss could be on trading block

[az jam]

Both Rats and myself stated this on another message thread and I was watching the NFL show on HBO and they also stated the same: Randy Moss has worn out his welcome in Minnesota and should be traded. They also said that the Vikings could absorb his 11 million signing bonus as they are under the cap and it would be written off in the 2004 season. I don't know the contract details but do know that he signed a large 7 year contract extension several years ago.

Denny drafted Moss and Moss always liked playing for Denny. What would it take to get him and should the Cards even go after him? He has been a head case but is one of the best of the receivers in the NFL. Thoughts?

 

[red desert]

Both Rats and myself stated this on another message thread and I was watching the NFL show on HBO and they also stated the same: Randy Moss has worn out his welcome in Minnesota and should be traded. They also said that the Vikings could absorb his 11 million signing bonus as they are under the cap and it would be written off in the 2004 season. I don't know the contract details but do know that he signed a large 7 year contract extension several years ago.

Denny drafted Moss and Moss always liked playing for Denny. What would it take to get him and should the Cards even go after him? He has been a head case but is one of the best of the receivers in the NFL. Thoughts?

I'd take him and Michael Bennett for Q.

 

[Stout]

I'd trade the Quan and our first for him in a heartbeat, as long as that hammy is fully healthy.

 

[JeffGollin]

Considerations -

1. Moss's proved production.

2. Moss's quirkiness, locker room chemistry etc.

3. Age difference. (Should we trade away a prime wideout with 5 - 10 years of mileage for equal or better talent who may only have 3 - 5 years left?)

Besides, I liken Dennis Green to a rolling stone - and you know what that means.

: )

 

[danny l]

Why in the world would Denny want Randy ( I play when I feel like it) Moss. Remember, it was an out of control Moss and Carter that greased the skids for Green's less than graceful exit for Minnesota.
The Vikings can't trade Moss for several reasons, cap issues, and no other organization would take on his salary and his cancerous ways.
The real LEON=Randy Moss.

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

I'd trade a 6th round pick for Moss, and maybe throw in Poole. Moss has done nothing for the Vikings except pad his individual stats. We need people motivated to win in PHX in order to turn this thing around. Moss isn't one of those people. He'd be like Kobe, but what we need is a Nash. I say no to the whole thing.

 

[Pariah]

2nd rounder and Fitz.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I'd trade a 6th round pick for Moss, and maybe throw in Poole. Moss has done nothing for the Vikings except pad his individual stats. We need people motivated to win in PHX in order to turn this thing around. Moss isn't one of those people. He'd be like Kobe, but what we need is a Nash. I say no to the whole thing.

We don't have a 6th. round pick in this years draft.

 

[az jam]

Upon further thought: I probably wouldn't do it. Moss wants to be and should be the featured WR regardless what team he plays for. No way could we keep Moss, Boldin and Fitz. So the trade would include Boldin and whatever to get Moss. I think that Boldin, Fitz and a drafted wr burner (i.e. 3rd or 4th round pick) gives us a more solid team for the future. I like having Boldin and Fitz as our two key recevers. They are young and talented. IMO Boldin will get an contract extension; he is going to be a Card for a long time! I could see Moss being traded to either Miami or Oakland for picks and defensive players which Minnesota needs. (i.e. Charles Woodson)

Bottom line is I'll tell Denny to forget it when he calls for my input.

 

[Pariah]

So the trade would include Boldin and whatever to get Moss.

Boy, Cardinals fans sure are a fickle bunch. Remember when Q was the second coming...probably not, that was a whole season ago.

Guys, news flash: Boldin is a better WR than Fitz. Fitz is good, might even become great, but Boldin is and will be better.

 

[az jam]

Boy, Cardinals fans sure are a fickle bunch. Remember when Q was the second coming...probably not, that was a whole season ago.

Guys, news flash: Boldin is a better WR than Fitz. Fitz is good, might even become great, but Boldin is and will be better.

I agree that Boldin is better thanFitz; I just didn't think they would trade Fitz because of the cap hit they would have to take on his signing bonus. There is also the Denny & Fitz relationship; the 3rd pick in the draft and all that stuff.

However, it isn't going to happen.

 

[arthurracoon]

Boy, Cardinals fans sure are a fickle bunch. Remember when Q was the second coming...probably not, that was a whole season ago.

Guys, news flash: Boldin is a better WR than Fitz. Fitz is good, might even become great, but Boldin is and will be better.

 

[john h]

2nd rounder and Fitz.

I would not trade Fitz for him even up. Age and character make the difference. Yes he is good but MN has not been a world beater in recent years even with him and there very good qB.

 

[green machine]

It's Randy Moss. I think if you can land him, you do it, and I'd trade Boldin for him. My concern with Anquan is his knees. Will that be a problem throughout his career? Moss does not really have an injury history, and is the best WR in the game. Minnesota has its problems, but they haven't been on the offensive side of the ball.

Wouldn't you guys like a WR who can get the jump ball like Fitz, but can also get separation? That's Randy Moss.

 

[john h]

Boy, Cardinals fans sure are a fickle bunch. Remember when Q was the second coming...probably not, that was a whole season ago.

Guys, news flash: Boldin is a better WR than Fitz. Fitz is good, might even become great, but Boldin is and will be better.

Boldin may well be better than Fitz. Time will tell if he does not holdout. There is something about his threat of a holdout that does not sit right with me. This really does not do the team any good. It may effect some FA who is thinking of coming here and I surely guess it p-----Green off as well a management. Bad vibes are starting to appear here.

 

[john h]

I agree that Boldin is better thanFitz; I just didn't think they would trade Fitz because of the cap hit they would have to take on his signing bonus. There is also the Denny & Fitz relationship; the 3rd pick in the draft and all that stuff.

However, it isn't going to happen.

Fitz will be traded when the proverbal hell freezes over. Not in my lifetime.

 

[Russ Smith]

It's Randy Moss. I think if you can land him, you do it, and I'd trade Boldin for him. My concern with Anquan is his knees. Will that be a problem throughout his career? Moss does not really have an injury history, and is the best WR in the game. Minnesota has its problems, but they haven't been on the offensive side of the ball.

Wouldn't you guys like a WR who can get the jump ball like Fitz, but can also get separation? That's Randy Moss.

Moss is one of the few guys in football I would trade Quan for but I don't think there's any way Minnesota is going to eat Moss' deal, trade for Quan, and then have to redo Quans' deal. That's just too much money.

Quan is great but moss would make this offense scary he is SO dangerous downfield it's frightening how good we'd be. the downside is he'd be a horrible influence on Fitz.

 

[HeavyB3]

Randy Moss is good but is a cancer. He has totally destroyed the chemestry of the Vikings.... I don't want him

 

[Pariah]

Randy Moss is good but is a cancer. He has totally destroyed the chemestry of the Vikings.... I don't want him

Moss is a jackass, and he's not great for chemistry, but I don't think he's destryoed it. Right now the Vikings problems are on the coaching end, not the chemistry end, IMO. For all of his tantrums, it doesn't at all seem to have affected his chemistry with Culpepper or the rest of the offense.

To say you don't want Randy Moss on your team because he's a jerk is like saying you don't want Peyton Manning because he's ugly. Moss could single handedly win at least 2-3 games we wouldn't win without him.

 

[joeshmo]

The best WR in the game today, not having to pay his signing bonus only his base salary, which by the way would be cheaper then the deal Boldin will end up getting.

So thats the best WR in the game for a cheaper price then Boldin will get with his new contract demands with knee injury history on both knees.

Sorry but there is no question in my mind that try to make that deal.

 

[Rats]

Both Rats and myself stated this on another message thread and I was watching the NFL show on HBO and they also stated the same: Randy Moss has worn out his welcome in Minnesota and should be traded. They also said that the Vikings could absorb his 11 million signing bonus as they are under the cap and it would be written off in the 2004 season. I don't know the contract details but do know that he signed a large 7 year contract extension several years ago.

Denny drafted Moss and Moss always liked playing for Denny. What would it take to get him and should the Cards even go after him? He has been a head case but is one of the best of the receivers in the NFL. Thoughts?

I think we should stay on this soapbox. The only way this should happen is if Q asks for Fitz type money and it is likely that he holds out. We need a running back with speed. Bennett would be a good fit here and Moss would instantly upgrade our offense. Nothing against Boldin but he can not do what Moss does. None of receivers can yet. I think as Fitz gets stronger he will be able to get behind receivers. Thats just my opinion. But Moss already does and Fitz could become great over the middle with his size. He already is pretty good. As I have said our #1 and #1 , #3 next season and Q for Moss & Bennett and there #2 this season. The stumbling block would be Moss' contract but it could be worked out. Everybody gets a good deal with this. Again I would only want it to happen if Q is unhappy here and holds out for a Fitz type contract. I would pay that kind of money for Moss but not for Q with his injury history. I don't think any of us will be sad if we keep Q and give him a solid 4 yr extension with built in incentives. I liked the idea of 4yrs 8 mil guaranteed with incentives every year to reach 16 mil. Q is worth every penny of that. If he wants alot more then he is fair game to be delt IMO.

 

[vince56]

I'd trade a 6th round pick for Moss, and maybe throw in Poole.

You seriously would offer that in a trade if you were the GM? Give up nothing, get nothing.

Poole = 0 trade value.

 

[ajcardfan]

There was a lot of talk about us trading for Moss last offseason. It really seems more feasible this year than last. McCombs is trying to sell the team, it makes sense for him to dump Moss. I bet we could get him much cheaper this year than last too. Does that mean we should do it though?

Think about a 3 wideout set of Boldin, Fitz and Moss. DC's and secondary coaches would pee their pants when they played us. If we could add a RB by keeping our first round pick this year, I'd do the trade. I'd give up our first rounders the next two seasons to do it. I think we can keep Boldin and Fitz and still get Moss.

 

[Shane]

There was a lot of talk about us trading for Moss last offseason. It really seems more feasible this year than last. McCombs is trying to sell the team, it makes sense for him to dump Moss. I bet we could get him much cheaper this year than last too. Does that mean we should do it though?

Think about a 3 wideout set of Boldin, Fitz and Moss. DC's and secondary coaches would pee their pants when they played us. If we could add a RB by keeping our first round pick this year, I'd do the trade. I'd give up our first rounders the next two seasons to do it. I think we can keep Boldin and Fitz and still get Moss.

 

[Capt'nCard]

2nd rounder and Fitz.