Raptors @ Suns 11-2-18

[Mainstreet]

It looks like Anderson will go to the bench and Warren remains a starter.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Windhorst = 1Sun. Solved.

Actually most of us agreed with the point Windhorst is making. We were the worst team in the NBA last season with the worst point guard rotation, the worst power forward rotation and the worst center rotation. We did little to change our PG situation and nothing (positive) to resolve the power forward issue. Which is why we are again the worst team in the League.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns point guard problem goes back to early last season (actually before) when Bledsoe expressed his desire to be traded. The Suns have simply not fixed the problem.

 

[Yuma]

Oh, I get this. Then you watch other WC teams, they are all getting stronger. We seem to be treading water, or regressing.

 

[Mainstreet]

A quick summary.

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[Mainstreet]

Oh, I get this. Then you watch other WC teams, they are all getting stronger. We seem to be treading water, or regressing.

It appears the Suns are looking a lot like last season when they were the worst team in the NBA.

 

[BC867]

I believe that psychology is an important tool for the Suns at this time. With our roster of too young or too old and very little in between.

In that regard, I would hold out a rusty Booker, rather than have him come back with our 1-6 record vs. the 7-1 Raptors.

When we come back full strength, let it be against teams that we might have a chance of hanging in with for more than the first 8 minutes.

We'll have to crawl before we can walk. But not smash our kneecaps in the process.

 

[sunsfan88]

Likewise, Canaan could play as well. The linked article is full of information.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...ely-return-injury-against-raptors/1854370002/

I really hope Canaan doesn't get his starting job back. He should be 3rd in the rotation behind Okobo and Melton.

It would be absolutely unfair to not give Okobo a shot with Booker (potentially) in the backcourt.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I believe that psychology is an important tool for the Suns at this time. With our roster of too young or too old and very little in between.

In that regard, I would hold out a rusty Booker, rather than have him come back with our 1-6 record vs. the 7-1 Raptors.

When we come back full strength, let it be against teams that we might have a chance of hanging in with for more than the first 8 minutes.

We'll have to crawl before we can walk. But not smash our kneecaps in the process.

Well, I would point out that he was rusty to begin the season and we played him and he played fairly well. Also, won't he still be rusty until he gets some actual game action? I just don't think the extra embarrassment of a blowout loss should be enough to want to delay bringing him back. And I'd hate to see us blow an almost winnable game because we failed to get Booker some court time in the tougher game. Speaking of psychology, wouldn't the team dynamic likely be improved too by having their anointed leader back with them?

All that said, I don't want him back unless he's fully healthy.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Okobo has a ts% of .599. He has a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio which not great but not bad.

JJ has to get it soon. We have seen him play better. You have to wonder if it’s the hair—shouldn’t have cut it. Yeah, I got nothing with JJ.

 

[95pro]

I think JJ is overthinking it when he's the pg, or should I say the guy who brings the ball up the court. I say that because that's all he should be doing, not trying to create for everyone and make spectacular plays every trip on offense.

 

[Yuma]

Well, I would point out that he was rusty to begin the season and we played him and he played fairly well. Also, won't he still be rusty until he gets some actual game action? I just don't think the extra embarrassment of a blowout loss should be enough to want to delay bringing him back. And I'd hate to see us blow an almost winnable game because we failed to get Booker some court time in the tougher game. Speaking of psychology, wouldn't the team dynamic likely be improved too by having their anointed leader back with them?

All that said, I don't want him back unless he's fully healthy.

I will take rusty 27 PPG average ANY day! LMAO!

 

[Yuma]

Okobo has a ts% of .599. He has a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio which not great but not bad.

JJ has to get it soon. We have seen him play better. You have to wonder if it’s the hair—shouldn’t have cut it. Yeah, I got nothing with JJ.

If you have been watching my thread, Yuma's Key Stat...., a 2:1 ratio is way better than our team is doing!

 

[Hoop Head]

JJ has to get it soon. We have seen him play better. You have to wonder if it’s the hair—shouldn’t have cut it. Yeah, I got nothing with JJ.

I think he's just been trying to cover too much ground. He looked best last season when it was clear that Booker was not playing and Warren was also out. I know he played well in games with them also but he knew his role at that point. Now, he's struggling to find where he belongs. Arguably Ariza signing with us filled JJ's role from last year, at least his role when Booker and Warren played. He's also getting used to playing with Ayton, and Booker again. With Booker suffering that injury so soon it didn't allow JJ a chance to find his role either.

JJ is now covering for Booker and trying to develop chemistry with everyone while still trying to find his role with the team. For some reason Kokoskov seemed to use him as our 6th man instead of Warren at first. Jackson played more than Warren did in the first 2 games, before he was made a starter. He's struggling to find himself on the court because he's too busy trying to be other people. He needs the coach to sit him down, tell him exactly what he wants from him and doesn't want, and let him go do that. Whenever he strays from that too much, yank him.

At least we're not seeing the return of Summer League Jackson. He was trying to take over games by himself there, even though it was unnecessary. He's sharing the ball a lot more than he did there and he is trying to find others in position to score or do something but it's just not working out. His effort will keep him from riding the pine too much. I imagine he's probably one of the best players in practice because he has a knack for being in the middle of a lot of good plays but he's been on the wrong side of those too often this year.

 

[Ronin]

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[GatorAZ]

Looked at stubhub for tickets tonight and lower bowl seats 15 rows up are going for $260 a pop!

 

[Hoop Head]

Looked at stubhub for tickets tonight and lower bowl seats 15 rows up are going for $260 a pop!

I got an email offering lower bowl seats for $70 against the Celtics. They say it's in honor of Booker's 70 point game but they're not selling, at all. Their sales team has been really desperate when I've spoken with them.

 

[Takeo]

Even if Booker was playing, Leonard is just longer stronger and more athletic.

Booker playing means the Suns may score more but their competitiveness remains minimal. Booker is overrated by Suns fans and media. He's a volume scorer and offers little else except whining to officials and awful defense.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Booker playing means the Suns may score more but their competitiveness remains minimal. Booker is overrated by Suns fans and media. He's a volume scorer and offers little else except whining to officials and awful defense.

You made an account just so you can make this silly comment? Booker has been incredibly efficient this year and is also a pretty good playmaker (7 APG this year). He is absolutely more than a "volume scorer" and will only get better in the years to come. Of course he has his shortfalls, but he is a lot better than you give him credit for.

 

[SirStefan32]

This may be my perception, but I feel like Booker has been more efficient this year. It looked to me like he was taking fewer shots while scoring more.

 

[95pro]

Looked at stubhub for tickets tonight and lower bowl seats 15 rows up are going for $260 a pop!

I got an email offering lower bowl seats for $70 against the Celtics. They say it's in honor of Booker's 70 point game but they're not selling, at all. Their sales team has been really desperate when I've spoken with them.

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[Ronin]

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[Mainstreet]

I really hope Canaan doesn't get his starting job back. He should be 3rd in the rotation behind Okobo and Melton.

It would be absolutely unfair to not give Okobo a shot with Booker (potentially) in the backcourt.

We totally agree and I have nothing against Canaan. I like Canaan as a backup point guard but Okobo has performed nicely in a starting role. Since the Suns are not going anywhere, they should continue to start him unless his play proves otherwise.

So far I have not heard who starts tonight. I hope Kokoskov does not go old school and start Canaan.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

This may be my perception, but I feel like Booker has been more efficient this year. It looked to me like he was taking fewer shots while scoring more.

He's been far more efficient thus far. Probably doesn't keep his numbers quite this high, but likely still ends up more efficient this year.

 

[Mainstreet]

This is not encouraging about Kawhi.

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