RaShede Hageman visited

[Totally_Red]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Absolutely no surprise they are doing their due diligence on him.


Minnesota defensive tackle Ra'Shede Hageman has visited or worked out for the Atlanta Falcons, Arizona Cardinals and the Indianapolis Colts, according to a league source.


Hageman is one of the most physically impressive defensive linemen in the draft. The 6-foot-6, 318-pound player ran the 40-yard dash in 5.02 seconds. He bench pressed 225 pounds 32 times and registered a 35 1/2 inch vertical leap. And Hageman excelled in the positional drills, displaying rare agility for a player of his dimensions.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I'm a bit turned off by the characterization of his play, basically scouts saying he looks like the best DL in all of college football one game, and then looking undraftable in the next. He does have elite measureables however, and I'm more concerned with the Dockett situation than most.

Hageman could possibly be an upgrade over Dockett very soon, and the Cardinals need to up the ante on defense if we want to truly be a NFC West contender.

The draft move from a divisional opponent that would concern me is the Rams taking Sammy Watkins. The Rams would have likely the most explosive two players in the NFC West on their offense (Watkins and Austin). Scary.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I'm a bit turned off by the characterization of his play, basically scouts saying he looks like the best DL in all of college football one game, and then looking undraftable in the next. He does have elite measureables however, and I'm more concerned with the Dockett situation than most.

Hageman could possibly be an upgrade over Dockett very soon, and the Cardinals need to up the ante on defense if we want to truly be a NFC West contender.

The draft move from a divisional opponent that would concern me is the Rams taking Sammy Watkins. The Rams would have likely the most explosive two players in the NFC West on their offense (Watkins and Austin). Scary.

Yeah Hageman is definitely a High Risk High Reward type. Could be great if his heart is all in. Not sure it is though.

 

[Totally_Red]

Yeah Hageman is definitely a High Risk High Reward type. Could be great if his heart is all in. Not sure it is though.

Exactly! He is worthy of investigation because of his measurables and potential. But if he had been consistently elite at MN he'd be a top 12 pick IMO.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

I'm a bit turned off by the characterization of his play, basically scouts saying he looks like the best DL in all of college football one game, and then looking undraftable in the next. He does have elite measureables however, and I'm more concerned with the Dockett situation than most.

Hageman could possibly be an upgrade over Dockett very soon, and the Cardinals need to up the ante on defense if we want to truly be a NFC West contender.

The draft move from a divisional opponent that would concern me is the Rams taking Sammy Watkins. The Rams would have likely the most explosive two players in the NFC West on their offense (Watkins and Austin). Scary.

Yeah but the Broncos had 4 threats and was taken apart by the

Seahawks. I think they go with the Auburn monster. Bradford is

going to the hospital in this division if they cant protect the edges

 

[WildBB]

The draft move from a divisional opponent that would concern me is the Rams taking Sammy Watkins. The Rams would have likely the most explosive two players in the NFC West on their offense (Watkins and Austin). Scary.

They could go with Mathews or Robinson 1st.

But if they don't trade out, they could take Watkins then Lewan at 13.

Or Robinson then Lee @13.

If they do that then the Cardinals may well counter with Verrette in a trade down.

 

[Chopper0080]

Hageman is more of a trade up option in round 2 than a round 1 pick for me. His red flags are warranted if you ask me.

 

[Chopper0080]

I don't really care who the rest of our division drafts because unless we draft the right people, it won't matter. If I could trade down with San Fran and get extra picks, I would. Let's improve our team first then worry about the other 31 teams in the NFL.

 

[WildBB]

I don't really care who the rest of our division drafts because unless we draft the right people, it won't matter. If I could trade down with San Fran and get extra picks, I would. Let's improve our team first then worry about the other 31 teams in the NFL.

Between say Pryor and Verrette, who would make a bigger impact early in their career, in your opinion?

We don't currently have a starting SS, mtl. And Cromartie and Powers both have 1 yr deals left going forward if I'm not mistaken.

Right now at saftey we'd have Mathieu, Jefferson and Johnson as the current starters.

 

[Cardiac]

Between say Pryor and Verrette, who would make a bigger impact early in their career, in your opinion?

We don't currently have a starting SS, mtl. And Cromartie and Powers both have 1 yr deals left going forward if I'm not mistaken.

Right now at saftey we'd have Mathieu, Jefferson and Johnson as the current starters.

This is a good question and it should be part of the process. Thing is what looks to be a lesser need on draft day very well could become a big need before the start of the season. SK has said pretty much the same thing and it's why he advocates BPA.

I think SS is a bigger need at this time but CB is a more important position and this D was VERY good last year without playmakers at the Safety position. HB played a ton of slot CB and when he went on IR the D was still playing great.

 

[WildBB]

This is a good question and it should be part of the process. Thing is what looks to be a lesser need on draft day very well could become a big need before the start of the season. SK has said pretty much the same thing and it's why he advocates BPA.

I think SS is a bigger need at this time but CB is a more important position and this D was VERY good last year without playmakers at the Safety position. HB played a ton of slot CB and when he went on IR the D was still playing great.

Does Mathieu's game translate to the SS spot as well as the slot, iyo?? Could he thrive there?

 

[overseascardfan]

Again my opinion, if ARZ is going DL in Round 1 I would rather them take Stephon Tuitt.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Hageman is an absolute beast. I think this coaching staff would make him shine.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Again my opinion, if ARZ is going DL in Round 1 I would rather them take Stephon Tuitt.

I'm leaning that way also although Hageman's potential is very intriguing. The concerning thing with Tuitt is he's had injuries/surgeries now in 2 consecutive years.

I'm not as concerned with people saying Hageman takes play off. That's said way too often. They've said that about Clowney, Robert Quinn, Star Lotuleili, and many others that I'd gladly have playing for the Cards. College guys that are superior talents taking plays off is commonplace. To me, it's kind of a cop out on scouts/reporters sites. It is a slight concern but not a deal breaker for me.

Guys like Chris Borland, from Wisconsin, go all out every play because they have to. That's an admirable trait but I'll take Clowney, and the few plays he takes off, over Borland everyday.

 

[WildBB]

I'm leaning that way also although Hageman's potential is very intriguing. The concerning thing with Tuitt is he's had injuries/surgeries now in 2 consecutive years.

I'm not as concerned with people saying Hageman takes play off. That's said way too often. They've said that about Clowney, Robert Quinn, Star Lotuleili, and many others that I'd gladly have playing for the Cards. College guys that are superior talents taking plays off is commonplace. To me, it's kind of a cop out on scouts/reporters sites. It is a slight concern but not a deal breaker for me.

Guys like Chris Borland, from Wisconsin, go all out every play because they have to. That's an admirable trait but I'll take Clowney, and the few plays he takes off, over Borland everyday.

Hageman would be the only DL that opposing coaches would scheme for as well. Not so with ND.

At 20 I expect more than one of the following to be available that would be considered fits:

Ealy, Pryor, Martin, Dennard, Ford, Lee, Hageman and Verette. There is also a slight possibility that either Manziel or Bridgewater could fall somewhat on draft day. I don't think they consider Carr there. Three or four of the above should be available when we pick.

Also if you trade down a few slots, then Shazier and Tuitt come into play along with more CB's - Fuller and Roby, along with the above if one slides. You might also be able to get Ford, Verette or Hageman at 24-27 say. There are two others that the board has voted for in the polls, that would be Jace Amaro and Austin Seffarian Jenkins the TE's. Amaro played in a spread, but they should evaluate his blocking possibilities as well. He's a good sized prospect. Jenkins obviously has all the skills you'd want at the TE position. You just question his motor a bit.

 

[az jam]

Although Hageman is not my first choice at #20, I could see the Cards picking him as the replacement for Dockett. Dockett is due $9.50million for 2015.
With the major hit with Fitz's contract, cutting Dockett after this season may be part of what is needed for the Cards not to be in salary cap hell.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Although Hageman is not my first choice at #20, I could see the Cards picking him as the replacement for Dockett. Dockett is due $9.50million for 2015.
With the major hit with Fitz's contract, cutting Dockett after this season may be part of what is needed for the Cards not to be in salary cap hell.

I honestly see DD taking a pay cut to remain a Cardinal

 

[WildBB]

I honestly see DD taking a pay cut to remain a Cardinal

Fitz as well. Or at least he should. 20M instead of 23 or whatever. I think I'd survive.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Fitz as well. Or at least he should. 20M instead of 23 or whatever. I think I'd survive.

Fitz is a class act but I just do not see him taking a pay cut for some reason... Dockett I do. I think it comes down to an adequate mix between the crazies and loyalty lol

 

[Cardiac]

Does Mathieu's game translate to the SS spot as well as the slot, iyo?? Could he thrive there?

Honey Badgers are known for taking on opponents much bigger than themselves but no I don't think he is a SS. Not saying he couldn't do but FS/CB is his sweet spot(s) IMO.

 

[Gee!]

I don't put a lot of stock in who visits who.. Does anyone know who we brought in last year? Any of the guys we actually drafted?

 

[mwanamatapa]

I don't put a lot of stock in who visits who.. Does anyone know who we brought in last year? Any of the guys we actually drafted?

Honey Badger. Other than that it's more likely they draft guys they haven't brought in for a visit.

 

[ajcardfan]

Fitz is a class act but I just do not see him taking a pay cut for some reason... Dockett I do. I think it comes down to an adequate mix between the crazies and loyalty lol

IDK. Dockett can be pretty impulsive, so if he isn't approached about it right... I can see him choosing to go to the market.

 

[Garthshort]

Two Things:
1. Fitz, no matter his salary, will remain a Cardinal.
2. Look for the Salary Cap to go up next year, and take that into consideration when figuring if the team can/can't afford a player.

 

[ajcardfan]

Two Things:
1. Fitz, no matter his salary, will remain a Cardinal.
2. Look for the Salary Cap to go up next year, and take that into consideration when figuring if the team can/can't afford a player.

As much as I truly believe Fitz is truly the heart of this franchise, and unquestionably the greatest Arizona Cardinal, I don't think it's possible to say 100% that he will always remain a Cardinal. Hell, there are endless examples of players, like John Unitas and Joe Montana, where fans couldn't even fathom them ever wearing another uniform, yet it happened.