Ratto on UA's coaching opening

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Could do worse than Floyd. Of course could do better.

He'll recruit and win. Not to the level of Lute or UCLA but we'll settle in with Cal as arguably the second best program in the Pac-10.

One thing's for certain - it won't be a slow drain into the basketball abyss fif this is the end of UA Hoops. We're going to go down in a NCAA sanction-fueled blaze of top draft 10 picks and wins.

 

[Lefty]

Could do worse than Floyd. Of course could do better.

He'll recruit and win. Not to the level of Lute or UCLA but we'll settle in with Cal as arguably the second best program in the Pac-10.

One thing's for certain - it won't be a slow drain into the basketball abyss fif this is the end of UA Hoops. We're going to go down in a NCAA sanction-fueled blaze of top draft 10 picks and wins.

It could be a lot better. Floyd is dirty. I can't believe Livengood would even think of hiring him. Livengood must go if Floyd is the new coach.

 

[Russ Smith]

Could do worse than Floyd. Of course could do better.

He'll recruit and win. Not to the level of Lute or UCLA but we'll settle in with Cal as arguably the second best program in the Pac-10.

One thing's for certain - it won't be a slow drain into the basketball abyss fif this is the end of UA Hoops. We're going to go down in a NCAA sanction-fueled blaze of top draft 10 picks and wins.

There's a bunch of rumors out there either Floyd to Memphis or Floyd to UA. If Floyd goes to UA the rumor is Dixon to USC. That's a big move for SC get a good coach who won't pull all the nonsense Floyd did at USC.

I have to say I'd be disappointed if UA hires Floyd. You can say all you want that he won't have to pull that crap at UA to compete but the fact is more often than not USC is NOT competing with UCLA on recruits, Floyd is pulling crap to get kids that UCLA would never recruit(like Davon and Washington and Mayo and Derozan). The one kid recently that really was a USC/UCLA recruiting battle was Tyler Honeycutt, in general he's not being shady because he has to do that to compete for UCLA recruits.

I would hope if UA hires him they make it clear they don't want all that stuff that you can recruit great players at UA without package deals, we're not going to start pursuing kids with horrible academics and putting them on the BYU online plan etc.

Dixon at USC would be huge, he'd be competing head to head with Howland for players. They've always said they don't want to do that but that is the rumor if Floyd leaves, USC will pursue Dixon.

I can see Floyd to Memphis and I have to say if Dixon would go to USC, why not go to UA?

 

[Renz]

It could be a lot better. Floyd is dirty. I can't believe Livengood would even think of hiring him. Livengood must go if Floyd is the new coach.

Floyd is no dirtier than Calipari, IMO, and just about everyone would have been over-the-moon if Calipari had come to Tucson.

Floyd can coach. Not my first choice, but I can live with it if he comes.

 

[Lefty]

Floyd is no dirtier than Calipari, IMO, and just about everyone would have been over-the-moon if Calipari had come to Tucson.

Floyd can coach. Not my first choice, but I can live with it if he comes.

Does this hiring win the press conference? For me it doesn't. As for Dixon, I was told he wanted to go to the UofA last year. I hope Floyd screws up his interview.

Livengood should wait until the Final Four is over. I would rather see Drew from Baylor than Floyd. He already rebuilt the Baylor program.

 

[AsUdUdE]

If UofA ends up with Floyd, after so many was expecting Pitino (who came out and said he wasn't interested in the UofA job nor has ever been), Calipari, Few, Capel, ect.... I think that HAS to go down as a disappointment.. though I can guarentee most UofA fans will spin it and say they wanted Floyd the entire time and he is the 2nd coming of John Wooden...

FOr the record not saying ASU fans wouldn't do the same thing.. it is just the way it works...

But IMO, Floyd is a very good recruiter, but a below average coach, and hearing all year about how COACHING was the reason they underachieved, Tim FLoyd has had arguably the some of the most talented players over the past 2-3 years, and he hasn't really been able to capitalize on any of it.... That sets off some major red flags, IMO...

 

[ajcardfan]

Tim Floyd?

Wow. I think UofA can do a lot better than that. i can't imagine him being a good fit down there. Or, that UofA wouldn't take Few or Capel instead if they could get them.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

But IMO, Floyd is a very good recruiter, but a below average coach, and hearing all year about how COACHING was the reason they underachieved, Tim FLoyd has had arguably the some of the most talented players over the past 2-3 years, and he hasn't really been able to capitalize on any of it.... That sets off some major red flags, IMO...

Floyd's terrific coach, you don't get hired by two NBA teams unless you know your x's and o's. And while he may land 5* players, Floyd's recruiting is mediocre because his rosters are never that balanced and the characters he gets are usually headcases. That's why his teams are never that great, they're mostly ballhogs with tremendously low basketball IQ's.

And yes, this was a disappointment. But that's generally what happens when your first seven choices say no. I personally thought we'd end up with Capel but from a resume standpoint Floyd was probably next on the list and here we are. Floyd's still the third best coach in the Pac-10 however after Howland and Monty and considering there was a big part of yesterday when I was convinced we were on the Randy Bennett/Mark Fox/Lon Kruger train I'm somewhat relieved.

I guess Arizona fans are just going have to be happy treading water as a program until the next decade and hope the next guy can do something close to what Lute did.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

And yes, I'm still extremely upset with Jim Livengood and think he should offer his resignation as soon as tomorrow. The ONLY reason we were able to secure a coach with Floyd's resume is due to the prestige of the program built by Lute and the money of the boosters. Livengood completely botched the search in almost every possible facet.

 

[Lefty]

Being an alum I will give Floyd a chance but I think USC is going to go after Dixon, which means bad news for the rest of the Pac-10.

Maybe Renardo Sydney will follow Tim to Tucson. It will be interesting to see how many recruits he can get for next year.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Being an alum I will give Floyd a chance but I think USC is going to go after Dixon, which means bad news for the rest of the Pac-10.

Possibly, although they probably can't afford him.

Maybe Renardo Sydney will follow Tim to Tucson. It will be interesting to see how many recruits he can get for next year.

Ugh, just thought about that. Sol Hill's almost assuredly coming.

And before someone pulls a Hoover and conjures up a pipe dream scenario of a Sidney, Jordan Hill, Solomon Hill, Chase, Nic Wise starting lineup realize that there's an exactly 0% chance of that happening.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Tim Floyd?

It was either him or Mark Fox, Lon Kruger, or Randy Bennett. Livengood made the right choice out of those guys. The problem is that it never shoud've gotten that far.

 

[Russ Smith]

Being an alum I will give Floyd a chance but I think USC is going to go after Dixon, which means bad news for the rest of the Pac-10.

Maybe Renardo Sydney will follow Tim to Tucson. It will be interesting to see how many recruits he can get for next year.

I can't see UA taking a flyer on Sidney after the whole Jennings fiasco.

Floyd can coach he's a very good game coach although a lot of those gimmick defenses they run are drawn up by Phil Johnson(ex San Jose State coach and UA assistant). Floyd's offenses have been pretty boring at USC.
He makes a habit of not using his bench, can't control his temper so he gets T's that kill the team. And he has the habit of having massive turnover on his roster. Year after year the pieces change as kids transfer out and others come in.

If UA puts in some ground rules it would be ok.

Here's the problem with the Floyd/Dixon rumors. If USC wants to replace Floyd any coach is going to want to know what the hell is the status of the Mayo investigation. Dixon is a So Cal guy but I'm not sure he'll leave Pitt for SC if he knows they're going on probation?

I'm also not sure UA isn't going to have the same question, is USC about to go on probation and if they are is Tim Floyd culpable because after what happened to IU and Sampson, I think colleges are going to be careful about taking a coach who left his prior program in trouble with the NCAA.

The argument is it hasn't hurt OU but how good would that team be now with Damian James and Scotty Reynolds? Both kids were committed to OU until Sampson left.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

can't control his temper so he gets T's that kill the team.

Yep, Livengood loves his raving lunatic coaches. Mackovic, Stoops, now Floyd. I'm surprised he didn't bring in Robert Montgomery to be the interim. JL must want the opposite of his mortal enemy Lute who was almost always cool and composed on the sideline. What a joke this is.

 

[Chaplin]

Tim Floyd? I'm sorry, seeing USC flirt with being a top-tier Pac-10 basketball team and not really going anywhere doesn't make me feel all giddy about Tim Floyd.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Wow, talk about out of left field. (Assuming Floyd is the choice) I am definitely surprised, I expected better.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Never though we'd get past Capel. If my math is correct then it appears Floyd was our fifth choice (7th if you include Izzo and Dixon who haven't been serious targets for months but Arizona would've onbviously taken).

 

[Mr. Boldin]

Floyd is a very good X's and O's coach and can recruit, but he is no where near the level of hire we could have landed or what JL made us expect.

I dont like the way Floyd gets his recruits, but he can coach which is nice.

Either way Livengood needs to resign/retire, because I really cant see Shelton firing the AD that just hired our new coach. That doesnt exactly instill confidence in our basketball program after making a hire.

Kentucky threw this whole thing for a loop and make no mistake he and Pitino were definitely interested in the job. There is no way Pitino will admit that but they were both in contact all season with Livengood through back channels.

At least we get Solomon Hill back...............................

 

[HooverDam]

And before someone pulls a Hoover and conjures up a pipe dream scenario of a Sidney, Jordan Hill, Solomon Hill, Chase, Nic Wise starting lineup realize that there's an exactly 0% chance of that happening.

Yah Im the one who's an unrealistic dreamer, you're schools the one settling for Tim Freaking Floyd after you head cases thought you'd get someone like Calipari, Izzo, Dixon, or Pitinio.

 

[splitsecond]

If I would much rather have Pennell than Floyd.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Yah Im the one who's an unrealistic dreamer, you're schools the one settling for Tim Freaking Floyd after you head cases thought you'd get someone like Calipari, Izzo, Dixon, or Pitinio.

Pretty sure I dismissed Dixon, Izzo, and Pitino during this whole process. Calipari was coming to Arizona before UK got involved. Can't blame him for taking that job.

And "Tim Freaking Floyd" has a better resume in almost every possible facet than Herb Sendek so go to sleep tonight knowing that our seventh choice and a guy Arizona fans almost universally rip the hiring of is better than your Messiah.

 

[overseascardfan]

WTF happened to Capel? You go away from the board for a couple of hours and this happens. Can someone from this board call Capel and offer him the damn job!

 

[HooverDam]

Sure Calipari was, its a pretty easy claim to make since there's no way to prove it one way or the other.

Im glad you're OK with Floyd, personally I think its a garbage hire. If I were a UA fan Id be throwing myself off of whatever 10 story building is the highest in Tucson. If Floyd couldn't dominate the Pac 10 at USC, a better school, with better facilities, and a much better location, I can't see him doing much better at UA. Sure UA has better tradition than USC, but that only goes so far, the 1997 team is fading further and further into the memories of recruits and UAs tradition was soley tied to Lute.

As an ASU fan, I'm over the moon about the Floyd hiring. ASU fans were legitimately nervous about UA getting someone great, I guess the job wasn't quite as appealing as UA fans crowed that it was.

 

[Mr. Boldin]

All this coming from someone who has no knoweldge on the UA coacing search, Hoover... An ASU fan

You can keep saying proove it, but those of us who are "connected" or know boosters/people in the AD will all tell you Cal was a serious candidate and he was very interested in the job. Had Billy G not been such a failure it is quite possible Calipari would have at least had very serious discussions about accepting the UA job.

Floyd isnt a bad hire, but he isnt one that will win the press conference like Livengood claimed.

 

[splitsecond]

I am sorry, Floyd is an awful hire. He is a Denny Green hire - get my drift? He does not have the skills or brains to win the big one. No way, no how.

Kentucky screwed us. Calipari could have been swayed in, but hell, I don't blame him for taking that job one bit. But Floyd is a give up, desperation hire. They did it right away to make it look like they really want him, simple as that.