Report: Beanie excited about Arians regime, seeks 2nd chance

[Timm Rosenbach]

He will be as excited to see Snyder and Sendlein replaced as we will be.

 

[PDXChris]

He will be as excited to see Snyder and Sendlein replaced as we will be.

I never understood the obsession Grimm had with Sendlein. He is an ok player, but does not seem to be the leader you need at the C position.

 

[CardsFan88]

How could you know the length of his cleats?

Many ways to answer this.

1. Jokingly

"We see the bottom of his feet enough through his slips to see them"

But that's not why I bring it up.

2. Rational Questioning

"If there is a size bigger or three that is possible, then force him to utilize them"

3. Memory
I could have sworn focusing in on them and thinking they are awfully short. We've been watching him slip for years.

The coach merely needs to go to the equipment manager and ask him what Beanie normally wears. It's not that hard for the coach to do.

Thus the problem isn't what I THINK, it's what the coaches choose to find out or not. Deflecting the question by focusing in on a 3rd party doesn't negate the question. The problem and answer have nothing to do with me.

For us fans, we can look at pictures all over the internet that show his feet. It's not that hard. We already do see him slipping far more often than any RB I've ever seen. So with that it DOES beg the question.

I've found plenty just going 'beanie wells' in google images.

Looks like he uses different ones. Sometimes what appears to be 1/4 inch, and sometimes 1/2 inch. Makes you wonder in the games he slips more often than others if he is using the wrong ones. Sometimes he wears some with a bigger ring around the back and/or front, other times it seems like it's just these really small cleats with nothing around the edges either.

NFL now allows for a maximum of 3/4th (used to be 1 inch, and I think before that even bigger). Given his troubles, he should never use anything smaller than that with a shoe that has a large number of them packed in there. Grass or turf. So it isn't JUST length but number of and placement.

Don't get confused with the outside ring, it's the interior, and that part of the foot (front and middle) that he makes his cuts on that are the important factor. But nonetheless sometimes he doesn't even use the ones with the larger outside ring.

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When you make cuts like this picture below, if you don't have numerous, max length of cleats, you're asking to slip. Also it shows the importance of WHERE he should make certain he has sufficient number and length of cleat.

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But it's not just his cleats...it's his running style and inability to trust his feet. IMO his running style is a big part of it. He likes to put his body ahead of his feet and lean a ton.

Maybe other people get away with 1/4 or 1/2 inch cleats. Beanie imo, is a different story because of how he runs and that he doesn't trust his feet.

If he doesn't change anything, the inordinate amount of slips will continue.

It probably doesn't take but five minutes for any of the coaches to find an answer.

Oh and here is a picture that shows a bit of Beanie's cleats during that Bears game where he slipped for the fumble and touchdown.

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Maybe I'm completely wrong, but those don't look like 3/4 inch max sized cleats, that if any NFL player needs, Beanie does.

Personally I think he should be forced to use 3/4 inch cleats on shoes that have the max amount available on the bottom of his shoe. If he still slips after that???? Then you know and can make the appropriate decisions. But without finding out, you make decisions on incorrect info and suffer from his play not being optimized to whatever he is capable of.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

I never understood the obsession Grimm had with Sendlein. He is an ok player, but does not seem to be the leader you need at the C position.

I also never understood what Grimm saw in him. But I don't think that he is an OK player. I have seen him play very poorly for most of his career

 

[Duckjake]

I never understood the obsession Grimm had with Sendlein. He is an ok player, but does not seem to be the leader you need at the C position.

Why do you need a leader at the C position? I thought all these guys were highly paid professionals and if a guy needed motivation or leaders you had the wrong guy.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Many ways to answer this.

1. Jokingly

"We see the bottom of his feet enough through his slips to see them"

But that's not why I bring it up.

2. Rational Questioning

"If there is a size bigger or three that is possible, then force him to utilize them"

3. Memory
I could have sworn focusing in on them and thinking they are awfully short. We've been watching him slip for years.

The coach merely needs to go to the equipment manager and ask him what Beanie normally wears. It's not that hard for the coach to do.

Thus the problem isn't what I THINK, it's what the coaches choose to find out or not. Deflecting the question by focusing in on a 3rd party doesn't negate the question. The problem and answer have nothing to do with me.

For us fans, we can look at pictures all over the internet that show his feet. It's not that hard. We already do see him slipping far more often than any RB I've ever seen. So with that it DOES beg the question.

I've found plenty just going 'beanie wells' in google images.

Looks like he uses different ones. Sometimes what appears to be 1/4 inch, and sometimes 1/2 inch. Makes you wonder in the games he slips more often than others if he is using the wrong ones. Sometimes he wears some with a bigger ring around the back and/or front, other times it seems like it's just these really small cleats with nothing around the edges either.

NFL now allows for a maximum of 3/4th (used to be 1 inch, and I think before that even bigger). Given his troubles, he should never use anything smaller than that with a shoe that has a large number of them packed in there. Grass or turf. So it isn't JUST length but number of and placement.

Don't get confused with the outside ring, it's the interior, and that part of the foot (front and middle) that he makes his cuts on that are the important factor. But nonetheless sometimes he doesn't even use the ones with the larger outside ring.

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When you make cuts like this picture below, if you don't have numerous, max length of cleats, you're asking to slip. Also it shows the importance of WHERE he should make certain he has sufficient number and length of cleat.

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But it's not just his cleats...it's his running style and inability to trust his feet. IMO his running style is a big part of it. He likes to put his body ahead of his feet and lean a ton.

Maybe other people get away with 1/4 or 1/2 inch cleats. Beanie imo, is a different story because of how he runs and that he doesn't trust his feet.

If he doesn't change anything, the inordinate amount of slips will continue.

It probably doesn't take but five minutes for any of the coaches to find an answer.

Oh and here is a picture that shows a bit of Beanie's cleats during that Bears game where he slipped for the fumble and touchdown.

Also if these images are too small for anyone use ctrl+mouse scroll wheel or ctrl+ + (that's ctrl and + from the numpad)

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Maybe I'm completely wrong, but those don't look like 3/4 inch max sized cleats, that if any NFL player needs, Beanie does.

Personally I think he should be forced to use 3/4 inch cleats on shoes that have the max amount available on the bottom of his shoe. If he still slips after that???? Then you know and can make the appropriate decisions. But without finding out, you make decisions on incorrect info and suffer from his play not being optimized to whatever he is capable of.

One picture could have saved you 1000 words. (Lol)

 

[Jetstream Green]

Beanie has his faults and is often injured but no matter how much they talk up Ryan Williams, Beanie is the only back on this roster who has put up yards from the position. Second in line his LSH, as a change of pace back. We have no idea how Powell compares injury prone wise because he has never seen the field for an extended period of time. Beanie is a shaky variable, but he is the only proven one we have. In my opinion, he should be the last back to be cut till we find something better. In other words, it would be smart to keep him through training camp.

 

[desertdawg]

Wow, someone just had an fangasm to Beanie Wells...that wasn't named smell?

 

[Jetstream Green]

One picture could have saved you 1000 words. (Lol)

Question to consider, could his choice of smaller cleats be directly related to the problems he has had with turf toe which goes back I believe to his time in college. I think Beanie's most glaring problem is he has legs more like a WR than a RB, and those chicken legs will have a problem staying up with he is still getting hit with a top heavy upper body that actually is fit for the HB position.

 

[DeAnna]

I never understood the obsession Grimm had with Sendlein. He is an ok player.

Yep. IMO, a good running game starts with a competent center.

 

[desertdawg]

It's the shoes money, it's gotta be the shoes!!!

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Yep. IMO, a good running game starts with a competent center.

Draft Schwenke and replace Sendlein with him. He'll be better than Lyle on day 1.

 

[THESMEL]

you should too

FEED THE BEAN - dag nab it Dawg- We rarely practice the run, have little to no continuity on the oline, a different QB every couple weeks - The 1/4 Back is not invested in the run game- And the Boy slips cause he is trying to do things a guy his size is not suppose to do!

Part of me wants him to gain 10 lbs and see if he stays healthier because his tuned tighter than a baby grand piano! John Lott got the most out of him Speed wise but my theory is an athlete's conditioning is give and take, give to speed take from snot bubbling- not that he can't bubble snots at this point - but he has lost some of the flexibility he had at 240 + at Ohio State. ( think of a skinny Vince Wilfork)

He is a faster 230 but a healthy 240+ and causes collisions - eats them like candy- I have seen defenses cower to his punch- when he rarely got featured rb carries they cringe even more in the 4th 1/4. Oh this is what your gift is but we want you to be this? No really, we want you much lighter than the 4-6 people your crunching every play on a good day.

Make no mistake the Niners offense is built arounf Frank Gore and the Ravens offense is built around Ray Rice- - And they are heading to the show - Seahawks Lynch and the Rams Steven jackson.

Beanie has the most skills, years and ability out of all of them- but he is the after thought- and it is directly affecting Fitz's HOF bid- I'm not sure BA will build around a RB - hence is why he was cut from the herd at Pittsburg and went to Indy! Beanie is our motor on offense- He makes everything else go! Has our record yards in a game- smushed 3 tds in a few games back after we went like many games without an offensive TD?

What the hell are some people watching- WE had no TD's none - zip- nada! He is the best thing we got going on - most the time on one leg- He'll be healthy again- get behind a RUN BLOCKING LEVI BROWN and kicjk some NFCW ARSE!

Wow, someone just had an fangasm to Beanie Wells...that wasn't named smell?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I don't change with the winds - I still see one of the most talent players on our team- I can't find the read where Beanie said the auditioning statement was repeating what the coaches said in the locker room! The coaches told the team that they would all be auditioning for 31 other teams - to motivate them for the lame duck game/games.

Hey Garrison Hearst and Thomas Jones our other first round RB's in Arizona were both released after injury in their contracts- and both had fantastic careers after the cardinals.

Not only is The Bean a bruiser he has great speed and moves for his size, His health has sucked but no reconstructive surgery- which is a great thing- and he was developed and played exactly wrong in my opinion. But Arians is not very big on the run game either- it is an after thought. unlike the teams I hate playing in the Super Bowl next week.

I think Arians likes to run the ball more often than people give him credit for. His offenses between his time in Pittsburgh and Indy have never had fewer than 428 rushing attempts and even this year with the Colts while averaging only 3.8 YPC he still ran the ball 440 times. Which shows that he is willing to stick with the run even if it isn't all that affective. The most the Cards have attempted over that same period is 402 in 2007 and as little as 320 in 2010. Here are the numbers by year for Arians offenses and Cardinals offenses during the same time.

Arians

2012 - 440 Ind
2011 - 434 Pit
2010 - 471 Pit
2009 - 428 Pit
2008 - 460 Pit
2007 - 511 Pit
2003 - 412 Cle
2002 - 406 Cle
2001 - 417 Cle

Cards

2012 - 352
2011 - 389
2010 - 320
2009 - 365
2008 - 340
2007 - 402

 

[Mitch]

I would like to see Beanie Wells look excited on the field for once. His head always looks like its in a cloud somewhere---

I just never get the impression that he loves playing the game.

There's no bounce in his step and he looks like he's always at conflict with himself.

 

[Stout]

One picture could have saved you 1000 words. (Lol)

And a response without a quote could have saved us scrolling through all those pictures...AGAIN.

 

[CardsFan88]

One picture could have saved you 1000 words. (Lol)

Well it's something that's been on my mind for years really. Had to find the evidence to back what I was seeing and thinking for the past few years. So I was confirming to myself and answering you.

Plus didn't know if you or others could tell from one picture. I use a 40" HDTV, so pictures are alot bigger from where I sit then most people utilizing monitors and I can blow them up really big.

1000 words ha, that's like a footnote for me.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Well it's something that's been on my mind for years really. Had to find the evidence to back what I was seeing and thinking for the past few years. So I was confirming to myself and answering you.

Plus didn't know if you or others could tell from one picture. I use a 40" HDTV, so pictures are alot bigger from where I sit then most people utilizing monitors and I can blow them up really big.

1000 words ha, that's like a footnote for me.

 

[desertdawg]

FEED THE BEAN - dag nab it Dawg- We rarely practice the run, have little to no continuity on the oline, a different QB every couple weeks - The 1/4 Back is not invested in the run game- And the Boy slips cause he is trying to do things a guy his size is not suppose to do!

Part of me wants him to gain 10 lbs and see if he stays healthier because his tuned tighter than a baby grand piano! John Lott got the most out of him Speed wise but my theory is an athlete's conditioning is give and take, give to speed take from snot bubbling- not that he can't bubble snots at this point - but he has lost some of the flexibility he had at 240 + at Ohio State. ( think of a skinny Vince Wilfork)

He is a faster 230 but a healthy 240+ and causes collisions - eats them like candy- I have seen defenses cower to his punch- when he rarely got featured rb carries they cringe even more in the 4th 1/4. Oh this is what your gift is but we want you to be this? No really, we want you much lighter than the 4-6 people your crunching every play on a good day.

Make no mistake the Niners offense is built arounf Frank Gore and the Ravens offense is built around Ray Rice- - And they are heading to the show - Seahawks Lynch and the Rams Steven jackson.

Beanie has the most skills, years and ability out of all of them- but he is the after thought- and it is directly affecting Fitz's HOF bid- I'm not sure BA will build around a RB - hence is why he was cut from the herd at Pittsburg and went to Indy! Beanie is our motor on offense- He makes everything else go! Has our record yards in a game- smushed 3 tds in a few games back after we went like many games without an offensive TD?

What the hell are some people watching- WE had no TD's none - zip- nada! He is the best thing we got going on - most the time on one leg- He'll be healthy again- get behind a RUN BLOCKING LEVI BROWN and kicjk some NFCW ARSE!

I'm glad that it looks like we may have a year dedicated to the run, coinciding with Beanie's last year here (maybe). I've always thought you had your points about feeding the bean early and establishing time of possesion. Since we aint getting no jaw dropping QB, and it looks like O-line will be the focus...I think Chris is gonna have the chance to run his ass off. Barring injury I'm pretty optimistic but I'm pretty sure I've only called Beanie a beast a few maybe five times. But he aint in the Whizhouse anymore, should be fun to see how he responds to positivity and numerous touches. If we re-sign him we will definitely have to put a slip/fall clause in there though.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

did somebody hack my phone?

 

[MadCardDisease]

Wells is part of the old problem. Time to clean house and bring in some fresh legs.

 

[Southpaw]

Before Arians gives Beanie another chance, he must agree to stop referring to himself as Beanie. Call him Chris Wells. I cannot take a Beanie seriously.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Before Arians gives Beanie another chance, he must agree to stop referring to himself as Beanie. Call him Chris Wells. I cannot take a Beanie seriously.

I refer to him as the HasBeanie.

 

[Reddog]

He has a relatively small cap number and he is in a contract year. If he is ever going to amount to anything it will have to be demonstrated this year. He wanted an audition so he just might get one. I am cautiously optimistic. The alternative to me means he is done in the NFL. If he doesn't want it now or can stay healthy people will overlook him in the future.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Wells is part of the old problem. Time to clean house and bring in some fresh legs.

I agree, those guys that can rush for 1000 yards and score 10 or more TD's can cripple an offense.

But guys who have spent 27 of their first 32 games on IR are part of the answer.