Report: Beanie excited about Arians regime, seeks 2nd chance

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He has a relatively small cap number and he is in a contract year. If he is ever going to amount to anything it will have to be demonstrated this year. He wanted an audition so he just might get one. I am cautiously optimistic. The alternative to me means he is done in the NFL. If he doesn't want it now or can stay healthy people will overlook him in the future.

This is the year. Are you a physical wuss or are you someone we can depend on?

Watching him not play his last game at Ohio State because of a hang nail I'd say the former. He's a gifted talented running back who gets hurt too often (in his mind).

If you keep him you better draft someone cause you can't depend on him.
 

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I hope the new GM/Scouting regime figures out how to draft good running backs, some teams can blindfold themselves and fire a dart into the draft board and do better than we have.
 

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Will his legs give him a second chance? That's the real question. There is no doubt that Wells is a special talent. There is doubt that he can stay healthy. Feet, knees, he needs to get healthy for once. I don't recall one season yet that he didn't have an injury. If I'm not mistaken, he has had an injury or some kind of ailment in every training camp. Even in his best season. We all know what a healthy Beanie can do. He has hands down the best stiff arm in the NFL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f718Ei0TAck
 
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I agree, those guys that can rush for 1000 yards and score 10 or more TD's can cripple an offense.

But guys who have spent 27 of their first 32 games on IR are part of the answer.

I never said Williams was the answer. I wouldn't count on Williams one bit. However cutting Williams saves you nothing cap wise. So you might as well give him a shot at training camp. If someone during training camp plays better than Williams then you cut him.

Getting rid of Wells would save the team $1.2 million. It would force us to move away from an injury plagued player. Plus it would have the added bonus of one less Buckeye on the team!
 

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I hope he gets a year to redeem himself. Ryan Williams can't be counted on at all.
 

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Micro fracture

It's the Hail Mary of knee procedures and has marked the end of far more careers than it has saved.

Beanie had it this past offseason. Maybe a year will make a difference, but I have my doubts.
 

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Micro fracture

It's the Hail Mary of knee procedures and has marked the end of far more careers than it has saved.

Beanie had it this past offseason. Maybe a year will make a difference, but I have my doubts.

I don't believe the "micro fracture" surgery rumour was ever confirmed.
 

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I hope he gets a year to redeem himself. Ryan Williams can't be counted on at all.

Neither can Beanie.

Perhaps we can have a platoon in which Beanie gets all of the carries for the first 8 weeks, suffers a knee injury, then Williams comes in for the next 8 and gets injured.
 

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Neither can Beanie.

Perhaps we can have a platoon in which Beanie gets all of the carries for the first 8 weeks, suffers a knee injury, then Williams comes in for the next 8 and gets injured.


Thats the plan for QB so why not.
 

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Neither can Beanie.

Perhaps we can have a platoon in which Beanie gets all of the carries for the first 8 weeks, suffers a knee injury, then Williams comes in for the next 8 and gets injured.


Or better yet, we can stop drafting RB's who are already flagged as injury prone in college.
 

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I think Arians likes to run the ball more often than people give him credit for. His offenses between his time in Pittsburgh and Indy have never had fewer than 428 rushing attempts and even this year with the Colts while averaging only 3.8 YPC he still ran the ball 440 times. Which shows that he is willing to stick with the run even if it isn't all that affective. The most the Cards have attempted over that same period is 402 in 2007 and as little as 320 in 2010. Here are the numbers by year for Arians offenses and Cardinals offenses during the same time.

Just because he likes to run the ball more than US doesn't mean that he likes to run the ball. Let's look at those numbers in a little greater context, like the entire NFL...

Arians

2012 - 440 Ind - 14T
2011 - 434 Pit - 19
2010 - 471 Pit - 8
2009 - 428 Pit - 18th
2008 - 460 Pit - 9th
2007 - 511 Pit - 3rd
2003 - 412 Cle - 27th
2002 - 406 Cle - 26th
2001 - 417 Cle - 21st

Cards

2012 - 352 - 32nd
2011 - 389 - 28th
2010 - 320 - 32nd
2009 - 365 - 32nd
2008 - 340 - 32nd
2007 - 402 - 25th

Bruce Arians is a passing game coordinator--make no mistake about it. Our offense was cattywampus when it came to even making an effort to run the ball, but I don't expect us to come out under Arians and be in the Top 12 for rushing attempts in 2013.
 

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Just because he likes to run the ball more than US doesn't mean that he likes to run the ball. Let's look at those numbers in a little greater context, like the entire NFL...

Arians

2012 - 440 Ind - 14T
2011 - 434 Pit - 19
2010 - 471 Pit - 8
2009 - 428 Pit - 18th
2008 - 460 Pit - 9th
2007 - 511 Pit - 3rd
2003 - 412 Cle - 27th
2002 - 406 Cle - 26th
2001 - 417 Cle - 21st

Cards

2012 - 352 - 32nd
2011 - 389 - 28th
2010 - 320 - 32nd
2009 - 365 - 32nd
2008 - 340 - 32nd
2007 - 402 - 25th

Bruce Arians is a passing game coordinator--make no mistake about it. Our offense was cattywampus when it came to even making an effort to run the ball, but I don't expect us to come out under Arians and be in the Top 12 for rushing attempts in 2013.

The real question for me is what was the avg yd per carry one vs the other? It also appears that there were some years where he ran the ball more. Even in Wiz best year ranking he ran it less than Arians in his worst year. TO me its what was the avg more than how much you ran.
 

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yeah, like adrian peterson.

OK no more drafting RBs who are tagged as being injury prone in the legs and ankles in college.

And never, ever, draft another RB in the second round.
 

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I sometimes want to apoligize for repeating the same thing year after year- getting flamed for having the same perspective and opinion - Being the unpopular person on this board and ejected from the Main board like a tuff of dog poop off of Beanies cleat. I am what I am and that is all that I am- Im thesmel a Cardinals fan -toot toot.!

Mitch I feel Beanie's impacts on opponents show a lil excitement on his part- yea he is a brooder - sometimes with his head down chewing on his mouth piece- So was Jim Brown - and many many more - The Bean is old school and gets stronger as he wears down opponents and punishes them - Hard to do on 7 carries a game when he was healthy! behind THT- screw Whisenhunt I hope he pukes. Even after He made the Giants double stiff arm TD- He was pulled in and out like a yo yo- the playcallers couldn't sabatoge his development any more if they purposely laid a plan out to do so!

Yes Dawg - beanie asked for 7 early carries to set the tone Then He could have a feel for the defense- and set them up for a big run play- not an unreasonable request for a featured RB. What he got was several runs in row ( occcasionally) and when the defense adapted- a playcaller that abandoned the run. We were last in attempts, rush yards, but not yards per attempts- unless THT was in there- for his 143 carries each year as the starter. Saved Edges legs my butt- We collapsed in the 2nd 1/2 0f 08 until Saved us in the last game and the playoffs- That play action- made us great- then 10 carries in the SB and 10 in the Saints PO loss- I'm stubborn but- I know what I know.

Look at these rushing attempts in Whiz's tour- No Oline has ever performed this well passing so much - rushing so little- While everyone screams how bad our oline is- I'm screaming how in the hell did they pull off a SB and PO appearance- and keep Kurt upright at all? Our oline made the impossible probable- quick release under Marino or Fouts didn't do it! Arians had some pretty good years with low rush attempts- But Joe Thomas would never be asked to do what our oline has accomplished.

So I think The Bean is the 3rd most talented player on our team- behind only Fitz and PP- but The Bean is more important because if you feed the bean - it improves their and the rest of the teams working conditions and chances at success. His power makes injuries more probable - slips at less than 45 angles more probable too- But put together his 10 best plays( so many called back because of a lack of PPP by the coaches) and ask if he could have done more - If we were not last in everything rushing?

Hell i don't know if he'll be healthy or not- He has been benched while healthy quite a bit? But our new blocking scheme - 3 oline coaches - won't have the impact this boy has when he lowers his head with power - hangs on his blocker's hip patiently in traffic -and stiff arms multiple players in the open field. Hell he aint even hit his stride yet- Stupid coaching staff kept tripping him.

The reason they won't run the ball in the pro bowl is the same reason these 2 teams are in- and will in the Superbowl! Less risk of turnover- wear down opponents- so you can throw them down and your way with them later on. The NFL and 3-4 defenses are on the decline- If you can run and play defense - you can trump the most powerful pass game more times than not. This truth hasn't changed a bit- RB's are the engine on offense- rather Randy Moss or Jerry Rice is the best- RB's make everything else purr.

Besides 5 TD's in 88 carries - missing 1/2 the season? What proof do you want? Our only win after the first 4 games- 17 carries 67 yards and 3td's! yea somebody besides me is nuts!

I understand me!



Just because he likes to run the ball more than US doesn't mean that he likes to run the ball. Let's look at those numbers in a little greater context, like the entire NFL...

Arians

2012 - 440 Ind - 14T
2011 - 434 Pit - 19
2010 - 471 Pit - 8
2009 - 428 Pit - 18th
2008 - 460 Pit - 9th
2007 - 511 Pit - 3rd
2003 - 412 Cle - 27th
2002 - 406 Cle - 26th
2001 - 417 Cle - 21st

Cards

2012 - 352 - 32nd
2011 - 389 - 28th
2010 - 320 - 32nd
2009 - 365 - 32nd
2008 - 340 - 32nd
2007 - 402 - 25th

Bruce Arians is a passing game coordinator--make no mistake about it. Our offense was cattywampus when it came to even making an effort to run the ball, but I don't expect us to come out under Arians and be in the Top 12 for rushing attempts in 2013.
 
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He missed 5 games prior to IR this year? He played hurt- Broke our franchise record yards per game - really really hurt! So whats that say about Stump Mitchell and OJ anderson-

Some people need to slow down- Whiz has some brain washed that his pets like DA, Porter, Mike Adams, THT were really good! They were the worse in the NFL - not by a little but by bunches.

While Leinart, Levi, Edge, Branch, Dwill and Beanie were bad- They may not be the best but very well could have been elite on any other team in any other system.

We'll see soon enough- BA's comment about having to evaluate which QB's were salvagable and which ones were "Hit OUT" or finished because whiz and I'll throw Mike Miller in there too! stupid stupid stupid way to destroy even a career back up QB's career.


I agree, those guys that can rush for 1000 yards and score 10 or more TD's can cripple an offense.

But guys who have spent 27 of their first 32 games on IR are part of the answer.
 

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Ap was a top talent that many passed on due to injury history, brady isn't much of a comparison

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He missed 5 games prior to IR this year? He played hurt- Broke our franchise record yards per game - really really hurt! So whats that say about Stump Mitchell and OJ anderson-

Some people need to slow down- Whiz has some brain washed that his pets like DA, Porter, Mike Adams, THT were really good! They were the worse in the NFL - not by a little but by bunches.

While Leinart, Levi, Edge, Branch, Dwill and Beanie were bad- They may not be the best but very well could have been elite on any other team in any other system.

We'll see soon enough- BA's comment about having to evaluate which QB's were salvagable and which ones were "Hit OUT" or finished because whiz and I'll throw Mike Miller in there too! stupid stupid stupid way to destroy even a career back up QB's career.

It says that Stump Mitchell and OJ Anderson never got the chance to play a St. Louis Rams team which was that bad at stopping the run :) And for the record, I like Wells.
 

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No Oline has ever performed this well passing so much - rushing so little- While everyone screams how bad our oline is- I'm screaming how in the hell did they pull off a SB and PO appearance- and keep Kurt upright at all?

The Detroit Lions attempted 740 passes last season and ran 391. Yet allowed only 29 sacks. And averaged 4.1 yards per carry rushing.

Russ Grimm was a total disaster as offensive line coach. It had nothing to do with how much the Cards threw vs how often they ran.
 

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