Report: Cousins to sign with Vikes

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Well, bid 27.25 million. You're either going to have to pay big in cash or in draft capital. Which one helps/hurts your team the most?
 
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Well, bid 27.25 million. You're either going to have to pay big in cash or in draft capital. Which one helps/hurts your team the most?

Cards probably would need to offer way more. Minnesota just has a much better team to win with than the Cards right now.
 

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The Vikings are pretty much the smart place for him to go, but ugh.

Gonna be a looooong couple of years for us.
 

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Gonna hurt their feelings when we knock them out of the playoffs with a rookie

Let me help you out there Oak. Going to hurt their feelings when we knock them out of the playoffs while our rookie watches Bridgewater, Bradford or Keenum win from the sidelines :raccoon:
 

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the Shakespearian tragedy you keep selling over not signing a barely above average QB who would kill our cap is becoming laughable at this point.
Imagine how much better it will be in act II when Keim trades up into the top three to draft our QB
 

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the Shakespearian tragedy you keep selling over not signing a barely above average QB who would kill our cap is becoming laughable at this point.
We're in an awful spot. I can appreciate that you and others don't like Cousins, but I think he is a top five QB on the right team. So where you see a barely above average QB, and too much cap investment, I see 6 years of guaranteed stability at the position passing us by.

But it's not so much missing out on Cousins that bothers me, it's that the rest of the options in our situation are so far away. We have less cap room, less draft capital, and less room to mess up than any other team looking for a QB. I'm sitting over here trying to talk myself into AJ McCarron, a guy who I had zero interest in coming out of the draft, with three starts, and two one legged QBs in Bradford and Bridgewater, hoping we can somehow get lucky and they remain healthy despite all of the evidence being to the contrary.

I'm seeing our only options in the draft either being the 5th-6th QB off the board, which hasn't exactly hit in the past 20 years, or a wild trade up with every bit of remaining draft capital we have for next year disappearing in a year where we have only 13 players under contract.

Or, of course, trade a bunch of picks and pay Nick Foles, who was almost out of football recently, is a complete journeyman, and if I had mentioned the idea in week 13 of last year, would have been laughed out of a room for. Cool.

I'm not blaming Keim or anyone for this, it's just the crap cards that we were dealt, but I have very little optimism about next year and the upcoming years where we stand right now.
 
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Imagine how much better it will be in act II when Keim trades up into the top three to draft our QB
See above, but yeah, just as bad. Zero young elite talent on the team for the next three years, to pick the second or third QB off the board.
 

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We're in an awful spot. I can appreciate that you and others don't like Cousins, but I think he is a top five QB on the right team. So where you see a barely above average QB, and too much cap investment, I see 6 years of guaranteed stability at the position passing us by.

But it's not so much missing out on Cousins that bothers me, it's that the rest of the options in our situation are so far away. We have less cap room, less draft capital, and less room to mess up than any other team looking for a QB. I'm sitting over here trying to talk myself into AJ McCarron, a guy who I had zero interest in coming out of the draft, with three starts, and two one legged QBs in Bradford and Bridgewater, hoping we can somehow get lucky and they remain healthy despite all of the evidence being to the contrary.

I'm seeing our only options in the draft either being the 5th-6th QB off the board, which hasn't exactly hit in the past 20 years, or a wild trade up with every bit of remaining draft capital we have for next year disappearing in a year where we have only 13 players under contract.

Or, of course, trade a bunch of picks and pay Nick Foles, who was almost out of football recently, is a complete journeyman, and if I had mentioned the idea in week 13 of last year, would have been laughed out of a room for. Cool.

I'm not blaming Keim or anyone for this, it's just the crap cards that we were dealt, but I have very little optimism about next year and the upcoming years where we stand right now.

Agree. The risk is extreme no matter which way the Cards turn. At least with Cousins we have a body of work as a starting NFL QB over anything we can project with a QB coming out of this draft.

To get to the #1 pick will strip us of picks and young cost-controlled talent for the next couple of drafts. It is not just Cousins contract to worry about---it is the top talent that we will not be able to sign who would be with us for a several years on their rookie deal.

ESPN did a break-down of the effect Cousins would have on QB needy teams---has his effect on the Cards as similar to the jump the Cards made with Palmer coming over from the Raiders.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22692351/nfl-how-many-wins-kirk-cousins-add-various-suitors

We went 8-8 last year, a tribute to the players and the coaching staff to overcome so many key injuries. If we realize an additional 3 games with Cousins---we are at 11-5 . . . 10-6, etc and in the hunt for the division or the wildcard.

The money Cousins is reported to want upfront and guaranteed is pretty outrageous when measured against the cap---but what good is a cap bankroll if the offense doesn't have a QB?
 

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the Shakespearian tragedy you keep selling over not signing a barely above average QB who would kill our cap is becoming laughable at this point.

I agree. I think anyone paying this for Cousins is crazy. He is about as overrated a QB that I have seen. I don't get it at all.
 

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I'm not blaming Keim or anyone for this, it's just the crap cards that we were dealt, but I have very little optimism about next year and the upcoming years where we stand right now.


I am blaming Keim. Palmer showed he was losing it, the the end of the year before last. Its a Joke there is not a QB on the team. If Stanton was just Arians buddy and not a real replacement for Palmer. While was there not a QB in devolepment?
Why was there not a move to grab Watson, while was there not a trade or a move made for a Bridge QB to be on roster? Why wait to be in this debacle?
 

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I am blaming Keim. Palmer showed he was losing it, the the end of the year before last. Its a Joke there is not a QB on the team. If Stanton was just Arians buddy and not a real replacement for Palmer. While was there not a QB in devolepment?
Why was there not a move to grab Watson, while was there not a trade or a move made for a Bridge QB to be on roster? Why wait to be in this debacle?
I was trumpeting that we HAD to get a quarterback last year, but much of this board said "wait until next year, the players will be so much better!" I'm also bummed that we didn't get Watson, but really, it was one pick away, and who would have counted on the Texans giving up as much as they did to get there? Could we have competed with the Texans giving up the first round pick that they're currently giving to the Browns at #4? There's nothing saying we weren't working the phones... but we could have gotten outbid. I wouldn't have wanted to give up this year's first to move up one spot, that's for sure.

For what it's worth, they did try out a bridge QB. Gabbert was signed and had some spots where he shined, but clearly not enough to be the quarterback of the future.

Drew Stanton was a good QB for a team looking to "win now," which is what we were for the past four years.
 

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