The OP stated that the rule should be changed to go to a league replay official which I have no objection to. You and Russ are arguing that the replay official should be allowed to make a judgment call which I strongly disagree with.
Review process in NFL games needs to change
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Technically true. What I'm arguing is that calls that aren't 100% should be made using the replay, not the original call.
The one yesterday could have cost us the game.
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I think that yesterday was an embarrassing day for the NFL and what has become of instant replay and the rules' modifications.
First of all, there is NO reason whatsoever for the team of officails to have to spend a minute or two walking...yes, walking, mind you...over to the proverbial hood to review the play in question...
You simply have the lead official (referee) wear an earpiece and have the review officials relate the correct call to the referee...which would SAVE two to three minutes of superfluous waiting around.
Secondly...these rules modifications are absurd. It was clear to God (the supreme reviewer) and anyone else who viewed the play that Calvin Johnson CAUGHT the TD in the end zone...there is NO dispute...he caught the ball, he came down with two feet and he even bent down with the ball, and just because while he placing the ball on the turf it trickeled away, it's an INCOMPLETE PASS? You've got to be kidding everyone.
Thirdly, these...you CANNOT hit the QB penalties are a joke. In our game what was Calais Campbell supposed to do? He was arriving at Bradford a split second after he released the ball, and he tackled right through him. There was nothing dirty or extra about what he did. It was totally FUNDAMENTAL.
This game has been altered for the worse by pencil-necks who have never played a snap of football in their lives. Shame on Goodell. He's a schlock commissioner anyway. Pete Rozelle would have never allowed this great game to be comprimised as egregiously as this.
It's no wonder why we are looking at a lockout under Goodell. He's flat-out awful and one the main reasons why the game is losing its integrity.
Guess it's great his making his millions in the process. it's a joke.
First of all, there is NO reason whatsoever for the team of officails to have to spend a minute or two walking...yes, walking, mind you...over to the proverbial hood to review the play in question...
You simply have the lead official (referee) wear an earpiece and have the review officials relate the correct call to the referee...which would SAVE two to three minutes of superfluous waiting around.
Secondly...these rules modifications are absurd. It was clear to God (the supreme reviewer) and anyone else who viewed the play that Calvin Johnson CAUGHT the TD in the end zone...there is NO dispute...he caught the ball, he came down with two feet and he even bent down with the ball, and just because while he placing the ball on the turf it trickeled away, it's an INCOMPLETE PASS? You've got to be kidding everyone.
Thirdly, these...you CANNOT hit the QB penalties are a joke. In our game what was Calais Campbell supposed to do? He was arriving at Bradford a split second after he released the ball, and he tackled right through him. There was nothing dirty or extra about what he did. It was totally FUNDAMENTAL.
This game has been altered for the worse by pencil-necks who have never played a snap of football in their lives. Shame on Goodell. He's a schlock commissioner anyway. Pete Rozelle would have never allowed this great game to be comprimised as egregiously as this.
It's no wonder why we are looking at a lockout under Goodell. He's flat-out awful and one the main reasons why the game is losing its integrity.
Guess it's great his making his millions in the process. it's a joke.
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The review process has become a joke. It's the 100 percent certain part. (and 100 percent certain means something like a catch better than Calvin Johnson)
Common sense is gone. They've said they'll make the wrong call because it doesn't meet such a 100 percent standard. So what the hell is the entire point? They throw in so many factors that you can almost never get out a correct call when the play is close or the angle isn't the best. (You'd also think they'd put a few more cameras down there given the absolute nature of the rule. Great anticipation NFL, same with the referee positioning)
Next thing you know they'll pull the whole thing because they still can't figure out the vcr. Goodell was a lawyer right? The NFL coaches shouldn't need to channel Matlock on the sidelines to be able to challenge a play correctly. Another corporate head who still doesn't get it. Congratulations Goodell, it seems the actual NFL game and product is now a lawyer's playground. See a degradation when the rules are more important that what they are meant to define? Where in life do I see this everyday? Everywhere.
The refs resembled an Oric (sp) vacuum.
I hope we don't get the crew the rest of the year. They are clueless. They were horrible for both sides. They were holding Bradford's hand like a prom queen. It was so sickening.
Seeing 10x worse stuff not get called, including a grounding no call, for bradford, but having a crowd momentum pushed into a qb is a foul? Throwing towards a receiver who broke off his route was grounding? So many things there, and they even got stuff wrong in favor for us, but it seemed to be close to a 3:1 calls favoring the Rams. Holding calls were a joke.
Common sense is gone. They've said they'll make the wrong call because it doesn't meet such a 100 percent standard. So what the hell is the entire point? They throw in so many factors that you can almost never get out a correct call when the play is close or the angle isn't the best. (You'd also think they'd put a few more cameras down there given the absolute nature of the rule. Great anticipation NFL, same with the referee positioning)
Next thing you know they'll pull the whole thing because they still can't figure out the vcr. Goodell was a lawyer right? The NFL coaches shouldn't need to channel Matlock on the sidelines to be able to challenge a play correctly. Another corporate head who still doesn't get it. Congratulations Goodell, it seems the actual NFL game and product is now a lawyer's playground. See a degradation when the rules are more important that what they are meant to define? Where in life do I see this everyday? Everywhere.
The refs resembled an Oric (sp) vacuum.
I hope we don't get the crew the rest of the year. They are clueless. They were horrible for both sides. They were holding Bradford's hand like a prom queen. It was so sickening.
Seeing 10x worse stuff not get called, including a grounding no call, for bradford, but having a crowd momentum pushed into a qb is a foul? Throwing towards a receiver who broke off his route was grounding? So many things there, and they even got stuff wrong in favor for us, but it seemed to be close to a 3:1 calls favoring the Rams. Holding calls were a joke.
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Jay Cardinal
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Bingo. Anytime its a Sunday or Monday night game there is at least 2-3x cameras in the stadium. I'm sure the call would have been reversed with even one additional camera angle on the play.
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Stout
Hold onto the ball, Murray!
And this is where the rationale of instant replay breaks down. They AREN'T just trying to take care of blatantly bad calls. Refs are now calling just about everything a fumble, with the idea that they can lean on replay, instead of simply calling the play as they see it. Then they look at the replay, crap their pants because they didn't trust their instincts and now have a tough call, and simply uphold their own calls, because they can fall back on the whole 'irrefutable evidence' tag. It absolutely sucks for the game. Call the damn play the way you see it, and not with 'giving the benefit' of any doubts.
