Ricky Williams tests positive for pot...again

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Latest word out..... it was a contact high incident. He inhaled. Maybe???? I don't know how anyone can play NFL football without doing the whacky weed.


Ricky Williams is Joe Don Looney reincarnated.
 

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The truth is probably that Ricky wanted to get caught and banned. If he's as afraid of attention and interaction with people as he is reputed to be, he probably loathes football.

Now you get to get along with your life, Ricky. Wish you well.
 

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I have no compassion for this jackbutt. Most of us would give up our left arm to play like he does and he takes advantage of it. I'm with Rugby on this one(except fot the smoking part). Never tried pot never will. Anyone who says it isn't addictive needs to look at this moron. Goddell should send a message to players like this and give him a lifetime ban.


Just because his ass smokes alot doesnt make it addictive. I smoke cigarettes and pot, without cigarettes I shake, sweat and fiend bad. Without weed I get bored.

I consider somthing that controls you an addiction, not things that you enjoy doing but can go without.
 

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too many announcers counted their chickens in the last 15 days before they have hatched. Sensationalistic fans wait in line to celebrate the death of a career, like many as they witnessed the Heat go out in the first round, spelling what may the end of significant minutes for Payton, Walker and Mourning.

I can't give up on Ricky. As a low risk add-on if he gets re-instated, you look at some of the running backs that are back-ups on some teams: Anthony Thomas, Michael Bennett, Justin Fargas, Derrick Blaylock, Kevin Faulk, Dominic Rhodes. What these guys all have in common is they fit what you want in a back-up. Adding Ricky Williams is adding a bonafide superstar. I saw someone on ESPN bring up some stat about Ricky only having two games of 85 yards rushing or more since Thanksgiving '03. That's a deceiving stat considering the two games he had over 85, he was way over 85, one time doubling that. He also had several other games over 80 and this is in a slate of barely more than a year's worth of games, splitting carries with Ronnie Brown most of the time. Even if Arrington or Shipp is playing OK with about 3.5 yards a carry, if Ricky becomes available, you must remember that, as a back-up, he's in a different stratosphere. Just watch him play.

Sure, his lack of commitment to the game lets fans down, but he is a special player worth taking on the special personality.
 

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Just because his ass smokes alot doesnt make it addictive. I smoke cigarettes and pot, without cigarettes I shake, sweat and fiend bad. Without weed I get bored.

I consider somthing that controls you an addiction, not things that you enjoy doing but can go without.

This is both a definition and a rationalization for addiction.
 

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To add on to SSB13, when Ricky came back he outperformed Ronnie Brown. It wasn't even close.
 

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This is both a definition and a rationalization for addiction.

Agreed.

But there are different kinds of addiction.

Coke, crack, Meth, Herione, cigarettes, alcohol etc., etc. are a chemical addictions. Your body goes through physical withdrawl when you try to stop using these drugs. These are nasty nasty addictions that slaughter your body both mentally and physically.

Pot can be addictive. But no more addictive than TV (which I would say 99.5% of americans are addicted to, myself included), fast food, sex, adrenaline, power, money, etc., etc.

Ricky Williams does NOT have some vicious chemical addiction that his body is going through withdrawl from. Ricky Williams is just irresponsible, and a pigheaded for trying to out smart the system.
 

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Latest word out..... it was a contact high incident. He inhaled. Maybe???? I don't know how anyone can play NFL football without doing the whacky weed.


Ricky Williams is Joe Don Looney reincarnated.

That is impossible.

Knowing a lot about marijuana, that is just not possble. His THC levels wouldn't have triggered a positive test if he was in a room that was hot boxed where he would get a "contact high".
 

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That is impossible.

Knowing a lot about marijuana, that is just not possble. His THC levels wouldn't have triggered a positive test if he was in a room that was hot boxed where he would get a "contact high".


I was just trying to make a stupid joke. Ricky loves weed, plain and simple.
 

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I love all the "Holier than thou" post here.
Not one of you who are condemning him can say what you would do in his situation cuz you are not in it. I don't care what you do right now, you are not in this kind of situation.
I love how ANYONE can go to the Dr. and get a legal drug like Xanax by saying "I'm stressed" yet pot is illegal. The law is antiquated and stupid.
Before you jump on me, I do NOT smoke pot nor do I want to.
Back to the topic, before you throw stones, think about what you have done to screw something up. Cast the 1st stone if you haven't done anything wrong....
I think Ricky has screwed up only because he is in a profession that doesn't allow what he likes to do or even needs to do for anxieties or whatever. It doesn't make him a loser, it makes him human. I don't condone it, he is just in a profession that doesn't ALLOW it...so he should move on and do something else.

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wow...I question the logic of your argument

compassion and wisdom


I totally agree.

I am not a saint, and I have to stupid things. Made mistakes, LEARNED FROM THEM, and went on as a better person.

Also, I understand the reasoning behind "compassion and wisdom", and not be able to see the logic in my arguement.

Below is my belief on this subject:
Marijuana should be legal.

Now unfortunately, because of the short sightedness of the government and some older citizens who are set in there ways this is not the case in this country.

Now you have two options. Sit there and take it like a b****. Or stand up and fight the good fight for your beliefs.

If it is going to be legal then people need to use pot responsibly, or it will never happen.

A guy like Ricky Williams is a poster child for the anit-legalization of marijuana.

If Ricky Williams wants to smoke pot. Fine. Great. Then go smoke pot, and stay out of the NFL.

At first Ricky Williams said that he wanted to stay out of football and smoke. Which once again is fine with me.

Then he went back on that and said he wanted to play football again, and that he would stay clean. Once again that is fine.

But now he is going back on that again, and this time trying to lie his way back into the league and smoke pot. That is bullpoop. Right there is where he is doing nothing to help anyone.

He is not proving any point except for the propaganda that pot smokers are worthless, lazy loser, that do nothing all day, and are a leech to society.

Thus Ricky Williams becomes an enemy to me and my beliefs and causes. Thus my deep hate for this guy.

Yes, it is sad that he is a confused and lost individual. But in reality the guy needs to get a grip.
 

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Agreed.

But there are different kinds of addiction.

Coke, crack, Meth, Herione, cigarettes, alcohol etc., etc. are a chemical addictions. Your body goes through physical withdrawl when you try to stop using these drugs. These are nasty nasty addictions that slaughter your body both mentally and physically.

Pot can be addictive. But no more addictive than TV (which I would say 99.5% of americans are addicted to, myself included), fast food, sex, adrenaline, power, money, etc., etc.

Ricky Williams does NOT have some vicious chemical addiction that his body is going through withdrawl from. Ricky Williams is just irresponsible, and a pigheaded for trying to out smart the system.

I can't speak to how addictive pot is, but will say that - I've yet to meet an addict to more powerful and debilitating drugs who hadn't started on that path by first using pot.

As for Ricky: He's been diagnosed with anxiety disorders, which he's medicated with pot over the years. It strikes me that it's, at very least, an addiction for him.

P.S. You so-called "older folks" who are oppossed to Legalization, are yester-year's younger folk who lit up in the 60's and 70's, and are smart enough to know now they don't want it around their kids.
 
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I can't speak to how addictive pot is, but will say that - I've yet to meet an addict to more powerful and debilitating drugs who hadn't started on that path by first using pot.

As for Ricky: He's been diagnosed with anxiety disorders, which he's medicated with pot over the years. It strikes me that it's, at very least, an addiction for him.

P.S. You so-called "older folks" who are oppossed to Legalization, are yester-year's younger folk who lit up in the 60's and 70's, and are smart enough to know now they don't want it around their kids.

That gateway drug crap is a joke, I bet they tried cigs and alcohol before pot.
 

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That is impossible.

Knowing a lot about marijuana, that is just not possble. His THC levels wouldn't have triggered a positive test if he was in a room that was hot boxed where he would get a "contact high".

Very true, second hand smoke cannot make you fail, I used to use it all the time when I was a minor and on drug testing. Unless you take it straight from someones mouth and get the full hit you wont test positive. Besides, if your NFL career is in jeapordy what are you doing in a small room full of blunt smoke?>
 

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Agreed.

But there are different kinds of addiction.

Coke, crack, Meth, Herione, cigarettes, alcohol etc., etc. are a chemical addictions. Your body goes through physical withdrawl when you try to stop using these drugs. These are nasty nasty addictions that slaughter your body both mentally and physically.

Pot can be addictive. But no more addictive than TV (which I would say 99.5% of americans are addicted to, myself included), fast food, sex, adrenaline, power, money, etc., etc.

Ricky Williams does NOT have some vicious chemical addiction that his body is going through withdrawl from. Ricky Williams is just irresponsible, and a pigheaded for trying to out smart the system.

5/5
 

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I'll probably get stuck by lightning but I agree with Crazy Canuck.

Just a question for you pro-marijuana folks or those who smoke it regularly, have any of you been unemployed during stretches of your life? I was reading this study that links pot to unemployment and also professional underacheivement.

Basically you don't see successful professionals puffing away. (Of course there are always aberrations) I understand that there may be some medicinal benefits to the drug, but the recreational users aren't quite cutting it in society from a professional stand point.
 

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the recreational users aren't quite cutting it in society from a professional stand point.
This could be come a chicken and the egg discussion. What if folks who are less-employable are more likely to engage in illegal drug use instead of being less-employable because of their drug use?

Just playing devil's advocate.
 

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Ok, cigs, alcohol and pot... Thank you, Doctor.


So what you are saying is no matter what drug you do it is a gateway to another drug? How about people just want to try drugs in general and some are more mild and easier to obtain so they do it first? Pot is the least harmful of all "recreational" drugs.
 

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I'll probably get stuck by lightning but I agree with Crazy Canuck.

Just a question for you pro-marijuana folks or those who smoke it regularly, have any of you been unemployed during stretches of your life? I was reading this study that links pot to unemployment and also professional underacheivement.

Basically you don't see successful professionals puffing away. (Of course there are always aberrations) I understand that there may be some medicinal benefits to the drug, but the recreational users aren't quite cutting it in society from a professional stand point.

You would be amazed, I see and meet tons of very successful potheads, hell, John Sperling is a pothead.

Speaking from personal experience I do really well for my age and have never had a problem keeping a job or becoming employed, I have been with my current company a year, 2 years with the one before that and 1 year with pods before that. Maybe when I was a teen I did have those problems but thats because I was a teen.

Smoking way too much pot can be detremental but not even close to as much as daily alcohol in the same dose would be.
 

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I am a recreation pothead and have been for 10 years, now 24 years old I am a single parent, throw down 50 hours a week, have no support from the druggie X and still put a roof over my daughters head with a good life. It all depends on who you are, sure pot can really screw you up if you are a screw up but if you are motivated to be someone pot will not stop you. Look at all the NFL players who test positive for weed and theyr job is ALL about motivation. Granted theyr in trouble but they still got to that point in life while smoking weed.
 
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