Ring for KG or Nash?

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=PlayerPoll-080219

Garnett, Nash are favorites among NBA All-Star peers
By J.A. Adande
ESPN.com

Ask the same question over and over, and sometimes the responses add up to a completely new answer.



I asked 15 of the All-Star Weekend participants whom they would want to see get a championship ring, other than themselves. Their responses showed players value the same things the fans do: effort, dedication and teamwork.



It didn't surprise me that the winner was Kevin Garnett. He is beloved and respected around the league. But I wasn't prepared for such a slim margin of victory or the identity of the runner-up: Steve Nash. You don't see people rushing to say they are big fans of his, much the same way people don't voluntarily say they love Lionel Richie songs, but they definitely don't change the radio station when he comes on.



Nash himself was surprised.



"I didn't know they cared," he said.



Garnett, meanwhile, appeared to be genuinely moved.



"That's shocking, actually," he said. "It feels great. It feels good to know that the people you play against or people you battle against actually have a level of respect or appreciation for certain things. That says a lot. It says a lot about the class and the character of this league."



Garnett received six votes to Nash's five.



Others receiving votes were:


• Jason Kidd ("He's an unbelievably great player; guys like that, you want to see them have success," Dwyane Wade said.)


• Allen Iverson (Chauncey Billups put the guard on the top of his list.)


• Ray Allen ("He always conducted himself as a professional on and off the court," said fellow UConn alum Caron Butler.)



There was one notable abstention in the voting: the ultra-competitive Kobe Bryant. "If it ain't us, I don't care," Kobe said.



Here are the explanations from the voters, first for runner-up Steve Nash:



Jason Kapono: "I like the way he goes about things. He's a great player, a great teammate. You never hear anything bad about him. I would love to see him get a chance to win it. He's done so much for the game. The way he goes about playing, he just keeps getting better and better each and every year. To go from a guy who was on the Phoenix Suns early on in his career and wasn't getting any time, to one of -- if not the -- best players in the game, just speaks to what kind of guy he is, the work ethic that he has."



Brandon Roy: "What he represents on the floor is just team basketball. He plays the game the right way. You want to see that rewarded. I would definitely like to see him win a championship. He's definitely faster and he's smaller, but the way he plays the game, I try to approach it the same way. When I watch him and I watch his heart and his fire, you definitely want to pull for a guy like that."



Tim Duncan: "Can I go with nobody? That's not an option? Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Phoenix do it. Steve's been incredible for many years. He just hasn't been able to get over the hump for one reason or another. As good as he is, I'd love to see him win it."

Dwight Howard: "I guess Steve Nash. He's got two MVP trophies. They've been winning 50, 60 games for a while now. They've been so close every year, and I know if that was me, I would want all the support I could get from people."



Chris Bosh: "He's won two MVPs; I'm sure he'd like to get some extra hardware."



Now for the winner, KG …



Deron Williams: "I'm a big fan of his. I've been a fan since I was young. Just the way he plays the game, the passion. I would like to see him win one."



Allen Iverson: "All the hard work and dedication that he put in, you want to see a guy like that get it. He's a team player. He's a great basketball player. And I'm cool with him, also."



Carlos Boozer: "After the Utah Jazz, if we don't win one, I would like to see KG win one, just because I'm a crazy KG fan. Growing up watching him, playing against him, he brings it every night, always passionate about the game. Just one of those guys that, as a basketball fan, you want to see him win championships. But that's only if we get eliminated, and we're not going to get eliminated, baby."



Chris Paul: "Every time we play against each other, since I've been in the league, we almost get into it. I think it's just that competitive nature. But I don't think anybody in the league plays with as much emotion and passion as KG. When I watch him playing, I see myself in that he doesn't want to lose. I'd definitely want to see someone like that win a championship, because I know he deserves it and he's worked hard for it."



Carmelo Anthony: " Out of all the guys in the NBA, he's been doing it for a long, long time. Right now, he has a shot at it. He put a lot of years in this league, day in and day out. A lot of minutes, a lot of work. I just want to see him rewarded."



Antawn Jamison cast the deciding vote, but only after he was forced to make a decision.

"Steve taught me a lot," said Jamison, who played with Nash in Dallas. "He accepted me with open arms, and he wanted me to be successful. I'm a firm believer the reason I got the sixth man of the year award is because of him. I would really like to see him get one because of the type of person he is.



"And KG, we've been battling since high school. I love his passion for the game of basketball. I love what he represents. The guy has been through a lot. It would be nice to see him hold the trophy up and get the credit that he deserves as well."



You have to choose one. NBA Finals, Celtics versus Suns, Game 7, one of them hits the winning shot.



"Ahhh, man," Jamison said. "Seven games? I don't know, man …



"I'll say KG. Of course, you want to see the winner come out of the conference you play in."



And now we see the hidden benefit of Garnett's trade to the Celtics. Not only does he have a better shot at a championship, he has one more person rooting for him to get it.
 

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A Suns Celtics rematch would be almost as big a ratings monster as Celtics Lakers.
 

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it makes me sick seeing anyone other than the suns winning a championship. lots of sickness for me.
 

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He only said WE to keep the PC police away.

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Good to see such an outpouring of support for Garnett and Nash. You see, Kobe? When you're a team leader who respects his teammates, doesn't publicly demand trades, and conducts himself with dignity and self-respect off the court, guess what? Your peers respect you!
 

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Good to see such an outpouring of support for Garnett and Nash. You see, Kobe? When you're a team leader who respects his teammates, doesn't publicly demand trades, and conducts himself with dignity and self-respect off the court, guess what? Your peers respect you!

I don't think Kobe gives two craps...nor should he.

And if Amare had dropped that answer you would be falling all over yourselves to say how much you loved it.

Although Kobe's answer should have been "Pau Gasol."
 
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it makes me sick seeing anyone other than the suns winning a championship. lots of sickness for me.

For me its always been 1. the Suns, 2. Anyone but the lakers, now its also 3. Anyone but the Spurs or Mavs
 

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I don't think Kobe gives two craps...nor should he.

And if Amare had dropped that answer you would be falling all over yourselves to say how much you loved it.

Although Kobe's answer should have been "Pau Gasol."
I LOVE Amare; I really do. If he had said that, I'd be thinking, "What an ass." Not all of us are hypocrites, Donald, and it's not fair to paint us all with that brush.
 

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For me its always been 1. the Suns, 2. Anyone but the lakers, now its also 3. Anyone but the Spurs or Mavs

Even though the Mavs bumped the Suns the year Amare was out, I don't really hate them. Dirk is so goofy that he's loveable, and they are fairly fun to watch. The Spurs and Lakers I genuinely hate with a passion. The Mavs I feel neutral about, but thats not to say I wasn't cheering along for Golden St last year and laughing my butt off.
 

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I LOVE Amare; I really do. If he had said that, I'd be thinking, "What an ass." Not all of us are hypocrites, Donald, and it's not fair to paint us all with that brush.

You should want him to think like that. Who gives a crap who else wins. If you aren't winning, why do you care? Are you happy that Tim Duncan won a ring? That kG might? All that means is that you lost. As a fan I want cold blooded killers out there, with no remorse. Maybe that's just me, but I completely dig the attitude.
 

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Your peers respect you!

Oh, and btw, I'm much more happy that his peers respect him in this manner.

http://fannation.com/blogs/post/153977

Which opposing player scares you the most to play against?

Kobe Bryant, Lakers G...... 35%
Shaquille O'Neal, Suns C...... 12%
Kevin Garnett, Celtics F...... 6%
LeBron James, Cavs F...... 4%
Dwight Howard, Magic C...... 4%
Allen Iverson, Nuggets G...... 4%
Tim Duncan, Spurs F...... 4%
Steve Nash, Suns G...... 4%
Tracy McGrady, Rockets G...... 2%
Dirk Nowitzki, Mavericks F...... 4%

[Based on a survey of 242 NBA Players]

FAST FACTS: Poll was completed before O'Neal was traded from the Heat to the Suns last week.... Bryant particularly unnerves forwards, who gave him more than 41% of their vote.... Among players 35 and older, 63% voted for Bryant, who led the league in points, field goals and field goal attempts this season, as well as the last two.

This is an expanded version of the NBA poll from the February 18, 2008 issue of Sports Illustrated.
 

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An interesting statistical find, but "fear" and "respect" are nowhere near the same thing.

edit: Also, why aren't you watching the Hawks game right now? Regardless of whether the Lakers win or lose, the Suns win. ;) Either that draft pick gets sweeter or the playoff seeding does.
 

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Oh, and btw, I'm much more happy that his peers respect him in this manner.

http://fannation.com/blogs/post/153977

Which opposing player scares you the most to play against?

Kobe Bryant, Lakers G...... 35%
Shaquille O'Neal, Suns C...... 12%
Kevin Garnett, Celtics F...... 6%
LeBron James, Cavs F...... 4%
Dwight Howard, Magic C...... 4%
Allen Iverson, Nuggets G...... 4%
Tim Duncan, Spurs F...... 4%
Steve Nash, Suns G...... 4%
Tracy McGrady, Rockets G...... 2%
Dirk Nowitzki, Mavericks F...... 4%

[Based on a survey of 242 NBA Players]

FAST FACTS: Poll was completed before O'Neal was traded from the Heat to the Suns last week.... Bryant particularly unnerves forwards, who gave him more than 41% of their vote.... Among players 35 and older, 63% voted for Bryant, who led the league in points, field goals and field goal attempts this season, as well as the last two.

This is an expanded version of the NBA poll from the February 18, 2008 issue of Sports Illustrated.

MORE FAST FACTS: All 13 Suns, the Phoenix coaching staff, and the gorilla voted for Tim Duncan......
 

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You should want him to think like that. Who gives a crap who else wins. If you aren't winning, why do you care? Are you happy that Tim Duncan won a ring? That kG might? All that means is that you lost. As a fan I want cold blooded killers out there, with no remorse. Maybe that's just me, but I completely dig the attitude.
I wasn't addressing IF I should want him to think that way or not; we just disagree, and that's cool with me. I was referring to this part of your post:

And if Amare had dropped that answer you would be falling all over yourselves to say how much you loved it.

Not true. I think Kobe's an ass for saying it, and I would think Amare was an ass for saying it if he did.
 

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An interesting statistical find, but "fear" and "respect" are nowhere near the same thing.

edit: Also, why aren't you watching the Hawks game right now? Regardless of whether the Lakers win or lose, the Suns win. ;) Either that draft pick gets sweeter or the playoff seeding does.

I DVR the games and watch them blowing through commercials.

This was was particularly fun (I like watching the bench get extended minutes).
 

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I don't think Kobe gives two craps...nor should he.

And if Amare had dropped that answer you would be falling all over yourselves to say how much you loved it.

Although Kobe's answer should have been "Pau Gasol."

Maybe Kobe should help him win a playoff game first..... :)
 

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Let it go. Artest is way to risky for the Suns for a number of reasons.

Let what go? I looked at this list of players that opposing players are scared of playing against and I would expect Artest to be on there because he might bite off someone's ear.
 

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