RIP: Heath Ledger (1979-2008)

[former user 1]

Yes, she rubs me the wrong way.....

Yeah, me too. Another thing ... I just read that she (the masseuse) called Olsen a total of four times, not two. That's four times she could have called 911.

So many questions ......

 

[Pariah]

Yeah, me too. Another thing ... I just read that she (the masseuse) called Olsen a total of four times, not two. That's four times she could have called 911.

So many questions ......

Yayo, he was making a pun. ...rubs....massage...is this thing on?

 

[azsouthendzone]

Maybe the masseuse could have provided a happy ending...........








if she called 911

 

[former user 1]

Yayo, he was making a pun. ...rubs....massage...is this thing on?

Oh. I was being serious. I truly don't understand her logic. I mean, he probably was already dead, but still ... why not call the cops first? Even if to prevent questioning about you own actions.


Thanks for pointing out the pun Pariah.

 

[Dback Jon]

Is there an actual clip of this?? I wouldn't put it past whoever this person is, as he is a TV personality after all and for the most part, scruples are not in adbundance there. Still, I need to see some evidence before I believe this...

Some of these youtubes have bits and pieces...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=john+gibson+heath+ledger&search=Search

 

[Linderbee]

Is there an actual clip of this?? I wouldn't put it past whoever this person is, as he is a TV personality after all and for the most part, scruples are not in adbundance there. Still, I need to see some evidence before I believe this...

 

[AussieCardinal]

Very sad news to here.

 

[Linderbee]

Very sad news to here.

I can imagine.

 

[Card Trader]

Honest question here, not trying to start an argument. But why do people feel the need to tie themselves to celebrity tragedy like it really affects their lives? What's the difference between Ledger's death, and some random 7-11 employee that gets murdered in a holdup? Is anyone ACTUALLY mourning Ledger's death, that has posted in this thread? Will this affect anyone's life here?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Honest question here, not trying to start an argument. But why do people feel the need to tie themselves to celebrity tragedy like it really affects their lives? What's the difference between Ledger's death, and some random 7-11 employee that gets murdered in a holdup? Is anyone ACTUALLY mourning Ledger's death, that has posted in this thread? Will this affect anyone's life here?

If you have had an interaction with the random 7-11 employee, it would matter to those people. Watching a movie, or listening to someone's record, makes one feel like they know the person in some way. His life isn't necessarily more important, but depending on what you do in your life, will depend on how many lives you are able to touch, good and bad.

JMHO.

 

[earthsci]

Honest question here, not trying to start an argument. But why do people feel the need to tie themselves to celebrity tragedy like it really affects their lives?

Because feel that they know this person. We know who his loves were. We know the name of his child. The fact that we know that he has children is more than we know about the random guy walking down the street. Many have admired his work. It doesn't really affect us except in those ways.

What's the difference between Ledger's death, and some random 7-11 employee that gets murdered in a holdup?

Nothing. Really nothing except for that we are more familiar with Heath Ledger than the guy at 7-11. Actually I would be very affected if Arjon, the cashier at my local 7-11, was killed. Why, because I have talked to him over the years. I know him.

Is anyone ACTUALLY mourning Ledger's death, that has posted in this thread? Will this affect anyone's life here?

I'm not really mourning. Just kind of shocked that a young, promising life is gone. The only way it really affects my family and me is that it may serve as a good example to my kids about why prescription drugs aren't any better than street drugs.

 

[Card Trader]

Because feel that they know this person. We know who his loves were. We know the name of his child. The fact that we know that he has children is more than we know about the random guy walking down the street. Many have admired his work. It doesn't really affect us except in those ways. Nothing. Really nothing except for that we are more familiar with Heath Ledger than the guy at 7-11. Actually I would be very affected if Arjon, the cashier at my local 7-11, was killed. Why, because I have talked to him over the years. I know him. I'm not really mourning. Just kind of shocked that a young, promising life is gone. The only way it really affects my family and me is that it may serve as a good example to my kids about why prescription drugs aren't any better than street drugs.

Good response. Thanks.

I'm betting though that no one in this thread has even shook the guys hand. Not sure how you can feel a personal attachment to a person you haven't even met.

Ledger's work didn't touch lives, it entertained us(and not that greatly based on his body of work).

 

[Linderbee]

Ledger's work didn't touch lives, it entertained us(and not that greatly based on his body of work).

In this particular case, I think you're speaking for yourself. I'd wager Brokeback Mountain, at least, did touch some, if not many, people's lives.

You can't say it hasn't, because you just don't know.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Good response. Thanks.

I'm betting though that no one in this thread has even shook the guys hand. Not sure how you can feel a personal attachment to a person you haven't even met.

Ledger's work didn't touch lives, it entertained us(and not that greatly based on his body of work).

I have a connection with a lot of people here on ASFN for example. I have never shaken all of the hands of the people I want to meet here.

There are different ways of interacting and getting to know someone, other than face to face.

 

[Card Trader]

I have a connection with a lot of people here on ASFN for example. I have never shaken all of the hands of the people I want to meet here.

There are different ways of interacting and getting to know someone, other than face to face.

Agreed. How much back and forth did you happen to have with Mr. Ledger?

You guys had no communication, no interaction therefore no attachment.

 

[abomb]

Honest question here, not trying to start an argument. But why do people feel the need to tie themselves to celebrity tragedy like it really affects their lives? What's the difference between Ledger's death, and some random 7-11 employee that gets murdered in a holdup? Is anyone ACTUALLY mourning Ledger's death, that has posted in this thread? Will this affect anyone's life here?

Because the media doesnt cover real news.

 

[Linderbee]

Because the media doesnt cover real news.

So the guy that dies at 7-11 is more real than a celebrity?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Agreed. How much back and forth did you happen to have with Mr. Ledger?

You guys had no communication, no interaction therefore no attachment.

Heath may not have an attachment to me, or his fans specifically, but that doesn't mean that his fans don't have an attachment to him.

Every relationship/interaction does not need to be reciprocated/equal.

 

[azsouthendzone]

If you have had an interaction with the random 7-11 employee, it would matter to those people. Watching a movie, or listening to someone's record, makes one feel like they know the person in some way. His life isn't necessarily more important, but depending on what you do in your life, will depend on how many lives you are able to touch, good and bad.

JMHO.

Watching a movie makes you feel like you know the person? Hahahahaha. That's outrageous and scary.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Watching a movie makes you feel like you know the person? Hahahahaha. That's outrageous and scary.

blah. It happens much more than you think. Hell, I'm not even the only person to say that in this thread.

It is no more outrageous mourning for fallen military personnel in Iraq, an assassinated President, the Holocaust, or even a musician that is slain before their time. You hear a song, it invokes memories, and holds sentimental value, just like movies.

I think that if you can watch a movie and not have an affliction for the actors at all, that is equally scary/outrageous.

 

[Pariah]

When a celeb dies sudeenly it affects people because it reminds them of their mortality. I don't think anyone is mourning Ledger, but you can feel bad for him, his family and his friends without mourning.

Why is it such a crime to feel bad when someone--whether it be a celebrity or the guy at the 7-11-- dies?

 

[azsouthendzone]

blah. It happens much more than you think. Hell, I'm not even the only person to say that in this thread.

It is no more outrageous mourning for fallen military personnel in Iraq, an assassinated President, the Holocaust, or even a musician that is slain before their time. You hear a song, it invokes memories, and holds sentimental value, just like movies.

I think that you can watch a movie and not have an affliction for the actors at all is equally scary/outrageous.

Actually it is different. You don't see the difference between feeling bad for fallen military personnel, an assasinated President, the holocaust, and feeling torn up over Heath Ledger? That may be the most rediculous statement ever, but it is a true reflection of how misguided some people's values are. You are comparing a drug addict who made bad movies and left his child fatherless to the men and women brave enough to serve our country, the millions of innocent men, children, and women killed by Hitler, and JFK and Lincoln? Many people have direct connections to military personnel and the holocaust. Even if they don't it is called humanitarianism. And everyone has a connection to the President of the US. I don't think seeing an actor on film is remotely the same. But to some people it is....like stalkers.

 

[Pariah]

who made bad movies

Why do people keep bringing this up? It's not only irrelevent, it's an opinion.

 

[azsouthendzone]

When a celeb dies sudeenly it affects people because it reminds them of their mortality. I don't think anyone is mourning Ledger, but you can feel bad for him, his family and his friends without mourning.

Why is it such a crime to feel bad when someone--whether it be a celebrity or the guy at the 7-11-- dies?

Feeling bad or even thinking about one's mortality is one thing. Becoming emotionally attached to the situation is another.

 

[Pariah]

Becoming emotionally attached to the situation is another.

And, who's doing that? Maybe .0001% of the population?

Way to pick your battles.