RIP: Tony Gwynn (1960-2014)

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So sad. It feels like losing an old friend. He was such a good guy, it just felt like we knew him personally.

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Everybody makes their own choices and the ultimate responsibility for our decisions lies with each of us but there should be a special place in Hell for the people that lied and manipulated generation after generation into destroying themselves with tobacco. It's not like we didn't hear about how bad tobacco was in all it's forms but the industry played us like chumps. They paid the movie industry and the TV industry to present us with appealing characters that smoked or chewed. They paid authors and publishers to have their heroes take a cigarette break before and after saving the world. And so on. Far too many of us were influenced by them.

RIP Tony. I loved the fact that playing the game of baseball always made you smile.

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RIP Tony Gwynn, watching you play ball was a beautiful thing.
 

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As John Greenleaf Whittier wrote in is poem Maud Muller, “Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these, 'It might have been.”

What a shame that as good an ambassador of baseball and his beloved San Diego that Tony Gywnn was, he chose to poison himself into an early grave.

For years, Joe Garagiola, Sr., has been trying to influence baseball players to not do the same, but to little avail.

Joe is getting on in years and, before too long, his voice will be lost. And it will be business as usual for the jocks who chew and spit.

Was it really worth it? We will miss the positive examples you set as a sportman. Except for this one flaw, Tony, which told kids it was OK.

Perhaps this final example will save some lives. Realistically, perhaps not. :sad:
 

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Wonderful person taken away too soon. The sports world has lost a legend. RIP TG
 

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And here we sit looking at a closeup on TV of Miguel Montero at bat, with a wad in front of his lower gums.

If it is chewing gum, Miggy, I apologize. On second thought, no I don't because the public can't be sure.

If it is spit tobacco, you're a fool.

I stopped smoking cold turkey when I was 26 years old, Miggy. You'll be 31 in a few weeks. If it is a habit, kick it!
 

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So Gywnn's family is now suing tobacco companies. That is pretty lame IMO.

I saw that in the news yesterday as well. Don't really understand how they have a case, but I guess I am not familiar with the system when it comes to the tabaco industry
 

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So Gywnn's family is now suing tobacco companies. That is pretty lame IMO.

No it's not. I'm suing Anheuser Busch for making me drunk. I'm also suing Chevrolet for making my car too fast resulting in getting a speeding ticket.
 

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I'm suing Anheuser Busch for making me drunk. I'm also suing Chevrolet for making my car too fast resulting in getting a speeding ticket.
I have no use for frivolous lawsuits -- judges and attorneys getting rich at the expense of taxpayers. And, minus the sarcasm, I would have agreed with your point.

But this is a very specific issue. How the spit tobacco companies worked with colleges to entice young athletes into becoming addicted. From what I've read elsewhere, they targeted young black athletes in particular. Those kids were easy targets.

More than the money, this issue deserves attention and picks up where the late Joe Garagiola left off.

So before applying generalizations to the situation, you should familiarize yourself with the big picture of what Tony's family is trying to accomplish.

Gwynn started using dip as a freshman at San Diego State in 1977, according to the lawsuit, and used one and a half to two cans of the product every day until 2008. He had two operations before he was 54 for cancer in his right cheek, between August 2010 and February 2012.

Also named as defendants are two people who ran an intramural softball team called “Skoal Brothers,” which the lawsuit says provided free smokeless tobacco products.

According to the lawsuit, “defendants continued to deluge Tony during his college years with countless free samples of ‘dip’ tobacco products they purposely adulterated to make more addictive. All the while, they did not mention either the highly addictive nature of their products or their toxicity.”

It added: “Once Defendants got Tony addicted to their products, he became a self-described ‘tobacco junkie’ who used 1 1/2 to 2 cans or tins of Defendants’ Skoal per day,” the lawsuit states. “Sadly, the nicotine in the tobacco ultimately caused Tony’s cancer and killed him.”

Take a look at Tony's photo in the article and then decide if this shouldn't be made an issue.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-87310766/
 

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I have no use for frivolous lawsuits -- judges and attorneys getting rich at the expense of taxpayers. And, minus the sarcasm, I would have agreed with your point.

But this is a very specific issue. How the spit tobacco companies worked with colleges to entice young athletes into becoming addicted. From what I've read elsewhere, they targeted young black athletes in particular. Those kids were easy targets.

More than the money, this issue deserves attention and picks up where the late Joe Garagiola left off.

So before applying generalizations to the situation, you should familiarize yourself with the big picture of what Tony's family is trying to accomplish.



Take a look at Tony's photo in the article and then decide if this shouldn't be made an issue.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-87310766/

it's still a choice. it's nicotine, it's tobacco. look across america, it's 2016 and men are still dipping all over the place, the health risks are well advertised.

are you gonna sue the DBacks and Taco Bell for giving out 3 free tacos after the DBacks score 5 runs? this is as ridiculous of people suing mcdonalds because they are obese, and so is the tobacco law suit.
 

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it's still a choice. it's nicotine, it's tobacco. look across america, it's 2016 and men are still dipping all over the place, the health risks are well advertised.
This wasn't advertised . . .

According to the lawsuit, “defendants continued to deluge Tony during his college years with countless free samples of ‘dip’ tobacco products they purposely adulterated to make more addictive. All the while, they did not mention either the highly addictive nature of their products or their toxicity.”

The lawsuit is about a campaign aimed at young athletes in college.
 
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