RLakin
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And that’s a valid point. The only thing I would say on that is, Willie Shaw did have some success w/ the Vikings DBs before Solomon was there and as we saw (especially) last year, they’ve had more success after. The other thing is the comments from guys like Lee, Clemons, and Hitchcock. The anonymous quotes are damming as well, but in the interest of fairness I’ll stick to the named individuals that are out there. What you were hearing from them is a line that I think most Cardinals fans would cringe at, especially with the recent reports of Wilson’s moving to CB and the possible drafting of Sean Taylor. The line is that Solomon isn’t a good teacher. Better yet, that they weren’t learning anything. This is something that Joe Greene was constantly (and probably rightly) ridiculed for in Arizona, and mind you there weren’t any of the types of quotes like I’ve posted here. The quotes have also come from cornerbacks that played under Solomon during different eras. Jimmy Hitchcock joined the Vikings in 1998, 5 years after Carl Lee played his last game with the team. Also, Lee (more to the first point) was a three-time Pro Bowler.
Nidan:
As far as context, it’s a pretty easy argument to make, but I really don’t see that angle being applicable in this case. For instance, when Carl Lee says “the unfortunate truth is, I know more about playing cornerback than (Solomon) does," I don’t think he’s coming back with the line “just kidding,” (which is then cut by the writer). Ditto for the Hitchcock and Clemons stuff. It’s pretty clear where those guys and the writers stand. I can post the whole articles if you like, although I doubt the mods would be very happy with that. Also, keep in mind that this an opinion piece, so it serves me little purpose to have an inner debate in the middle of the article. I research the subject, interpret the data, make my conclusion, and then put pen to paper. It’s quite different than the straight journalism type article that I believe you’re making reference to.
To sum it up for those who want to make this an intelligent debate (i.e. no one who brings anti-Americanism, implied racism, or refers to fake conversations between people they don’t even know.) And let me just clear the record for the guy who continually brings up a disagreement that Ron Wolfley and I never had. First, I don’t recall ever talking to him about that subject, and if I did he would have absolutely no problem my taking the other side. We’re in talk-radio. That’s kind of the trick.
And that’s a valid point. The only thing I would say on that is, Willie Shaw did have some success w/ the Vikings DBs before Solomon was there and as we saw (especially) last year, they’ve had more success after. The other thing is the comments from guys like Lee, Clemons, and Hitchcock. The anonymous quotes are damming as well, but in the interest of fairness I’ll stick to the named individuals that are out there. What you were hearing from them is a line that I think most Cardinals fans would cringe at, especially with the recent reports of Wilson’s moving to CB and the possible drafting of Sean Taylor. The line is that Solomon isn’t a good teacher. Better yet, that they weren’t learning anything. This is something that Joe Greene was constantly (and probably rightly) ridiculed for in Arizona, and mind you there weren’t any of the types of quotes like I’ve posted here. The quotes have also come from cornerbacks that played under Solomon during different eras. Jimmy Hitchcock joined the Vikings in 1998, 5 years after Carl Lee played his last game with the team. Also, Lee (more to the first point) was a three-time Pro Bowler.
Nidan:
As far as context, it’s a pretty easy argument to make, but I really don’t see that angle being applicable in this case. For instance, when Carl Lee says “the unfortunate truth is, I know more about playing cornerback than (Solomon) does," I don’t think he’s coming back with the line “just kidding,” (which is then cut by the writer). Ditto for the Hitchcock and Clemons stuff. It’s pretty clear where those guys and the writers stand. I can post the whole articles if you like, although I doubt the mods would be very happy with that. Also, keep in mind that this an opinion piece, so it serves me little purpose to have an inner debate in the middle of the article. I research the subject, interpret the data, make my conclusion, and then put pen to paper. It’s quite different than the straight journalism type article that I believe you’re making reference to.
To sum it up for those who want to make this an intelligent debate (i.e. no one who brings anti-Americanism, implied racism, or refers to fake conversations between people they don’t even know.) And let me just clear the record for the guy who continually brings up a disagreement that Ron Wolfley and I never had. First, I don’t recall ever talking to him about that subject, and if I did he would have absolutely no problem my taking the other side. We’re in talk-radio. That’s kind of the trick.
