Robert Sarver discusses team struggles

[FArting]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...rver-rails-markieff-morris-millennial-culture

Some quotes from Sarver which I like

"We've had a number of setbacks this year that have taken their toll on us, and we haven't been resilient. Therefore, it's up to our entire organization to step up their game."

"The reality is, there's only a half-dozen championship-caliber organizations in the NBA over the last 25 years," Sarver said. "My job is to find the right people and the right culture to eventually be one of those organizations, and it starts with me. I'm not shirking responsibility."

"The blame is to be shared from the top down," Sarver said. "Our leadership needs to communicate better. It needs to provide a better culture that provides for more accountability and more motivation. We have a lot of good, young players. They need to be playing hard, aggressively and on the same page whether we win or lose. That's what I expect going forward."

 

[unseenaz]

“My whole view of the millennial culture is that they have a tough time dealing with setbacks, and Markieff Morris is the perfect example. He had a setback with his brother in the offseason and he can’t seem to recover from it.

“I’m not sure if it’s the technology or the instant gratification of being online. But the other thing is, I’m not a fan of social media. I tell my kids it’s like Fantasy Land. The only thing people put online are good things that happen to them, or things they make up. And it creates unrealistic expectations. We’ve had a number of setbacks this year that have taken their toll on us, and we haven’t been resilient. Therefore, it’s up to our entire organization to step up their game.”

lol nice dude.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...s-suns-have-traded-places-fans-eyes/78207820/

 

[Cheesebeef]

“My whole view of the millennial culture is that they have a tough time dealing with setbacks, and Markieff Morris is the perfect example. He had a setback with his brother in the offseason and he can’t seem to recover from it.

“I’m not sure if it’s the technology or the instant gratification of being online. But the other thing is, I’m not a fan of social media. I tell my kids it’s like Fantasy Land. The only thing people put online are good things that happen to them, or things they make up. And it creates unrealistic expectations. We’ve had a number of setbacks this year that have taken their toll on us, and we haven’t been resilient. Therefore, it’s up to our entire organization to step up their game.”

lol nice dude.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...s-suns-have-traded-places-fans-eyes/78207820/

interesting. That GS team better beware of how awful they're about to be with all the millennials on that team.

Jesus, Sarver needs to **** and sell the team already. He's been an abject disaster as an owner.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Well. He said the right things. Can he do the right things?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Well. He said the right things. Can he do the right things?

a) blaming millenial culture as a reason we suck is saying the right things? He and his GM put together a team that is awful. That is why they suck. And if they expected someone like Kieff to just move on from what happened, he's an ostrich with his head in the sand.

b) it's been proven time and time and time and time again that he doesn't do the right things when hiring anyone. each hire has been a disaster. so, the answer after 10 years of ownership and taking the crown jewel of sports in the valley and turning them into a laughingstock is a resounding NO. He can't do the right things.

 

[unseenaz]

interesting. That GS team better beware of how awful they're about to be with all the millennials on that team.

Jesus, Sarver needs to **** and sell the team already. He's been an abject disaster as an owner.

I don't see things ever getting better with the keys in his pocket.

He's officially a dinosaur. A statement like that? Dude who do you think will BE THE NBA in 5 years.

the clown show keeps clowning

 

[gmabel830]

LOL... he basically just said "F***ing millenials!"

 

[devilalum]

The grumpy old man persona is great for attracting free agents.

Meet the new Donald Sterling.

 

[Chaplin]

The grumpy old man persona is great for attracting free agents.

Meet the new Donald Sterling.

I'm no fan of Sarver, but that is WAY over the top. Sarver isn't Sterling at all.

 

[SweetD]

Your taking one snip it out of his comments. I agree with him. I have been dealing with young entrepreneurs and in the past 4 years it has shifted to to exactly what he is talking about. I am not sure if I am ready to blame social media, but the instant gratification is on point.

 

[devilalum]

I'm no fan of Sarver, but that is WAY over the top. Sarver isn't Sterling at all.

The New Sterling, or Sterling for the new Millennium. I don't think he's a racist but he is out of touch in the same way and is on his way to being the league laughing stock.

sent from a fone

 

[JCSunsfan]

I guess its just a generational thing. Here is what I hear from 50 somethings all the time about their millennial children.

"On their phones all day, living on facebook, twitter, and instagram, living with their parents until they are 30 playing video games.

Meanwhile crying to their parents, "But you can't throw me out! I can't AFFORD to live on my own. Do you want me to live on the street. Geez, BestBuy only pays 12 bucks an hour. Rent???!!! but then how will I afford my gym membership that I don't use? Two jobs? But then I won't have time for any fun!"

Life's biggest crisis is when the internet goes out.

Warning: Spoken by a parent whose friends are ALL parents of millennials.

Certainly not all (not even most) millennials are this way. I have 4 millennial aged children. Three of whom are making their way in the world quite well (and the 4th is the youngest, and getting there). But this is the first time that I can remember a generation seeing what I described above in their peers and thinking this is a perfectly acceptible way to live. Of course, I can remember only so many generations.

For the previous generations a 28 year old living at home with his parents, with little motivation to accomplish anything was a condition spelled -l-o-s-e-r.

This probably belongs in another thread, so I will stop now. I have been sitting here for half an hour trying to decide whether I should post this. You can all go back to ripping on Sarver now (unless you choose to rip on me instead).

 

[devilalum]

Your taking one snip it out of his comments. I agree with him. I have been dealing with young entrepreneurs and in the past 4 years it has shifted to to exactly what he is talking about. I am not sure if I am ready to blame social media, but the instant gratification is on point.

Complaining about social media is like complaining about the sky being blue. Its OK to have an opinion but you have to evolve with the times. Saying things like that just make you look out of touch.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

So basically, he insults a whole generation of basketball players, the exact generation we rely upon to build our team.



Hey Bob, don't publicly say everything you think, eh? We don't need you to become the Donald Trump of basketball.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

I guess its just a generational thing. Here is what I hear from 50 somethings all the time about their millennial children.

"On their phones all day, living on facebook, twitter, and instagram, living with their parents until they are 30 playing video games.

Meanwhile crying to their parents, "But you can't throw me out! I can't AFFORD to live on my own. Do you want me to live on the street. Geez, BestBuy only pays 12 bucks an hour. Rent???!!! but then how will I afford my gym membership that I don't use? Two jobs? But then I won't have time for any fun!"

Life's biggest crisis is when the internet goes out.

Warning: Spoken by a parent whose friends are ALL parents of millennials.

Certainly not all (not even most) millennials are this way. I have 4 millennial aged children. Three of whom are making their way in the world quite well (and the 4th is the youngest, and getting there). But this is the first time that I can remember a generation seeing what I described above in their peers and thinking this is a perfectly acceptible way to live. Of course, I can remember only so many generations.

For the previous generations a 28 year old living at home with his parents, with little motivation to accomplish anything was a condition spelled -l-o-s-e-r.

This probably belongs in another thread, so I will stop now. I have been sitting here for half an hour trying to decide whether I should post this. You can all go back to ripping on Sarver now (unless you choose to rip on me instead).

That's a big overgeneralization. But even if true, do you think Sarver's comments helped our team though?

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

Well. He said the right things. Can he do the right things?

Define "right". If you are saying that his statements are correct, they are still the "wrong" thing to do PR wise and free agency wise as Cheesebeef has pointed out. Very wrong, and stupid.

 

[Phrazbit]

Even if his points have merit (which is debatable) there is no freaking way he should be blabbing about it in front of a reporter.

I like that he accepted quite a bit of accountability and laid a lot of the struggles on the front office, but if he does not realize that the "millenial culture" line and the stuff about Markieff would be the headline then he has learned nothing about the media during his now 12 years of ownership.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Even if his points have merit (which is debatable) there is no freaking way he should be blabbing about it in front of a reporter.

I like that he accepted quite a bit of accountability and laid a lot of the struggles on the front office, but if he does not realize that the "millenial culture" line and the stuff about Markieff would be the headline then he has learned nothing about the media during his now 12 years of ownership.

I'm tired of Sarver holding himself "accountable". This is the second time he's done it in like 4 years. They were hollow words then and hollow words now.

And I don't think Sarver is Donald Sterling. He's just a terrible owner who has no clue what he's doing with the team or the media and never has.

 

[AZCrazy]

I'd be nice to have an owner who didn't try to own a team as a side hobby after his day job.

Give Hornecek a job in the front office as the team nice guy.
Blow out the team, keep 4 or 5 young guys and sell the rest to the highest bidder.
Two year rebuild project. Who's a free agent this year?

Lose the rest of your games.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yes, he isn't Sterling. That is true, he is just a run of the mill lousy owner. There are owners who don't even try, Sarver is trying, he really does want the Suns to be good, but he isn't good at his job and he does not understand the media and know when to keep his mouth shut.

And honestly... the Morrii issues have absolutely nothing to do with them being millennials, those two are idiots with a sense of entitlement that stems not from their generation but from being star athletes who's idiocy has always been enabled and who enable each other. Sarver making that leap is nuts.

 

[Suns_fan69]

I actually like what Sarver's intent here was (which I believe is a not so subtle challenge at Markieff to be more than he is) but the way he went about this seems all wrong.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I actually like what Sarver's intent here was (which I believe is a not so subtle challenge at Markieff to be more than he is) but the way he went about this seems all wrong.

if Sarver thinks a challenge to ***** is going to make any difference, he's more of an idiot then I already thought he was.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I actually like what Sarver's intent here was (which I believe is a not so subtle challenge at Markieff to be more than he is) but the way he went about this seems all wrong.

I don't think he had any real intent. He was just talking.

 

[sunsfan88]

I wish he would just sell the team. He's clearly a bad owner, does not have a clue, and I don't think even he's having fun anymore. Plus it's not like the Suns games are being sold out every game so not that much ticket sales or anything either.

If he sells now, he can actually still make a pretty large profit compared to what he bought the team at. He can just focus entirely on his soccer teams or whatever too.

 

[Covert Rain]

I'm no fan of Sarver, but that is WAY over the top. Sarver isn't Sterling at all.

No he is not but Sarver in a little over 10 years has created an image for himself with players and owners that is not exactly positive.