Robert Sarver is in Big Trouble (ANNOUNCES SALE PROCESS)

[Mainstreet]

I’m kind of laying low, but with the amount of experts here I should consider some advice no doubt

No problem. I have a player for any budget.

 

[Hoop Head]

I’m Robert Sarver. I can’t hide it anymore guys. I’ve been a forum member since before I owned the team. Using the Boise thing as a clever disguise of course.

Hey boss, I expect a raise. You see what I'm dealing with here?

 

[boisesuns]

Hey boss, I expect a raise. You see what I'm dealing with here?

Haha!

 

[1tinsoldier]

at least one of the posts on this page rings true

 

[Cheesebeef]

at least one of the posts on this page rings true

Dude, I’d you’re gonna make an accusation, stop being a coward and just come out and accuse the person.

Or don’t. You look like an idiot either way.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Dude, I’d you’re gonna make an accusation, stop being a coward and just come out and accuse the person.

Or don’t. You look like an idiot either way.

You're right, he's making baseless accusations and staying safe by pretending it's shrouded in mystery. He needs to shut up about it (as he's claimed he's going to) or provide real examples that support his acccusations.

 

[JerkFace]

You got me… I thought my name was a dead giveaway.

 

[1tinsoldier]

You look like an idiot either way.

despite being called an "idiot" with a "tin-foil hat" who is "outta his mind," and a lot more over the past 4 years, i sure have been consistently right about a lot of key Suns issues over that period of time:

1. that Igor needed to be replaced (others argued the team needed stability with the same coach)
2. that Booker should not be taking on double-duty as our point guard
3. that we needed the Chris Paul trade because, at the very least, he would teach Booker by example
4. early last year, that Paul and Booker needed to prioritize their mid-range game and get away from Booker ball
5. that the few flaws in Booker's game that i pointed out all season would be costly in the playoffs

i was personally insulted and "LOL-ed" about most of the above too -- by the same thought-policers

regarding my suspicions about that pro-Sarver website?
if you believe it's likely the Sarver investigation will confirm his nefarious practices,
it's no wild speculation that he would be connected to that website and a poster here

interesting that the same people feigning outrage that i would suspect someone of having a hidden agenda here,
have been accusing me of having a hidden agenda for years

 

[AzStevenCal]

despite being called an "idiot" with a "tin-foil hat" who is "outta his mind," and a lot more over the past 4 years, i sure have been consistently right about a lot of key Suns issues over that period of time:

1. that Igor needed to be replaced (others argued the team needed stability with the same coach)
2. that Booker should not be taking on double-duty as our point guard
3. that we needed the Chris Paul trade because, at the very least, he would teach Booker by example
4. early last year, that Paul and Booker needed to prioritize their mid-range game and get away from Booker ball
5. that the few flaws in Booker's game that i pointed out all season would be costly in the playoffs

i was personally insulted and "LOL-ed" about most of the above too -- by the same thought-policers

regarding my suspicions about that pro-Sarver website?
if you believe it's likely the Sarver investigation will confirm his nefarious practices,
it's no wild speculation that he would be connected to that website and a poster here

interesting that the same people feigning outrage that i would suspect someone of having a hidden agenda here,
have been accusing me of having a hidden agenda for years

Well I'm sorry you feel that everyone is out to get you but let's be clear about a small part of this (can't address the rest as it's all over the place). I don't think there's anyone here that doesn't believe that supposed news site is a front for the Suns and Sarver. We only contest your claim that a regular poster here is in his employ. So, once again, show us actual evidence or quit accusing people. Please.

 

[Hoop Head]

despite being called an "idiot" with a "tin-foil hat" who is "outta his mind," and a lot more over the past 4 years, i sure have been consistently right about a lot of key Suns issues over that period of time:

1. that Igor needed to be replaced (others argued the team needed stability with the same coach)
2. that Booker should not be taking on double-duty as our point guard
3. that we needed the Chris Paul trade because, at the very least, he would teach Booker by example
4. early last year, that Paul and Booker needed to prioritize their mid-range game and get away from Booker ball
5. that the few flaws in Booker's game that i pointed out all season would be costly in the playoffs

i was personally insulted and "LOL-ed" about most of the above too -- by the same thought-policers

regarding my suspicions about that pro-Sarver website?
if you believe it's likely the Sarver investigation will confirm his nefarious practices,
it's no wild speculation that he would be connected to that website and a poster here

interesting that the same people feigning outrage that i would suspect someone of having a hidden agenda here,
have been accusing me of having a hidden agenda for years

You don't have a hidden agenda, it's quite clear. You seek validation and praise from strangers on the internet. Only you truly know why you do that.

 

[Raindog]

But that doesn't mean RS kidnapped the Lindbergh baby, buried Jimmy Hoffa's body in cement or shot down Amelia Earhart's plane. IOW, you can be a horrible owner and still not be guilty of all the things laid at your doorstep.

I don't know... does Sarver really have an alibi for all of those incidents?

I kid, of course... but I hope my comment winds up on the fake pro-Sarver blog.

 

[Phrazbit]

despite being called an "idiot" with a "tin-foil hat" who is "outta his mind," and a lot more over the past 4 years, i sure have been consistently right about a lot of key Suns issues over that period of time:

1. that Igor needed to be replaced (others argued the team needed stability with the same coach)
2. that Booker should not be taking on double-duty as our point guard
3. that we needed the Chris Paul trade because, at the very least, he would teach Booker by example
4. early last year, that Paul and Booker needed to prioritize their mid-range game and get away from Booker ball
5. that the few flaws in Booker's game that i pointed out all season would be costly in the playoffs

i was personally insulted and "LOL-ed" about most of the above too -- by the same thought-policers

regarding my suspicions about that pro-Sarver website?
if you believe it's likely the Sarver investigation will confirm his nefarious practices,
it's no wild speculation that he would be connected to that website and a poster here

interesting that the same people feigning outrage that i would suspect someone of having a hidden agenda here,
have been accusing me of having a hidden agenda for years

Like... 0 of your 5 points were heavily argued against, especially Booker shouldn't be playing point and the Paul trade, very few people were against either of those things.

EVERYONE thinks that Sarver or someone who peels his grapes runs that goofy website, but thinking some regular here who has been posting for a decade or more is secretly in league with Sarver is... absolutely... hilarious.

Maybe climb down from the cross, take a deep breath and just try to enjoy the ride.

If we can win the title AND see the NBA nudge Sarver out the door, this will be the greatest era any team has had in Arizona history.

 

[1tinsoldier]

i really would be crazy to keep coming back here if i'm "seeking validation and praise from strangers on the internet" considering i've never gotten that here. at best, someone occasionally agrees with something i say but mostly, i'm the recipient of the ire of a Suns homer (or employee?) who is just plain mean

i do like to occasionally pat myself on the back and take satisfaction in prognosticating correctly

fyi, i hail from ny city and enjoy listening to hyper-opinionated, critiquing broadcasters like Stephen A Smith even though i think he's full of it and himself half the time (but still not as bad as Barkley)

i've never felt welcomed here because of my brutally honest takes, but sharing opinions about what i just spent almost 3 hours watching is part of the sport for me -- regardless of who reads or cares.

i do confess that i really get pissed when someone tries to bully me into silence with insults. and when i see it happen to someone else.

 

[Cheesebeef]

despite being called an "idiot" with a "tin-foil hat" who is "outta his mind," and a lot more over the past 4 years, i sure have been consistently right about a lot of key Suns issues over that period of time:

1. that Igor needed to be replaced (others argued the team needed stability with the same coach)
2. that Booker should not be taking on double-duty as our point guard
3. that we needed the Chris Paul trade because, at the very least, he would teach Booker by example
4. early last year, that Paul and Booker needed to prioritize their mid-range game and get away from Booker ball
5. that the few flaws in Booker's game that i pointed out all season would be costly in the playoffs

i was personally insulted and "LOL-ed" about most of the above too -- by the same thought-policers

regarding my suspicions about that pro-Sarver website?
if you believe it's likely the Sarver investigation will confirm his nefarious practices,
it's no wild speculation that he would be connected to that website and a poster here

interesting that the same people feigning outrage that i would suspect someone of having a hidden agenda here,
have been accusing me of having a hidden agenda for years

I have no hidden agenda here. I’m one of the most vociferous anti-Sarver people on the board. And have been for... oh... the better part of 18 years. I also was on board with ALL of the above and was bashed for some of it as well, had my fandom questioned, blah blah blah. But I don’t hold any of that against people here. I’m also not hiding an agenda against you with innuendo. I think you’re an idiot and a coward and not afraid to say it with cryptic references and tin foil hat pictures.

Again, either just flat out accuse whoever you think is the “rat” or seriously, shut up and stop playing the victim. You can’t dish out garbage and not expected the board to throw it back at you.

I mean, you can. But like I’ve said before, it just makes you look like even more of an idiot than you’ve already done so far.

 

[Cheesebeef]

i really would be crazy to keep coming back here if i'm "seeking validation and praise from strangers on the internet" considering i've never gotten that here. at best, someone occasionally agrees with something i say but mostly, i'm the recipient of the ire of a Suns homer (or employee?) who is just plain mean

i do like to occasionally pat myself on the back and take satisfaction in prognosticating correctly

fyi, i hail from ny city and enjoy listening to hyper-opinionated, critiquing broadcasters like Stephen A Smith even though i think he's full of it and himself half the time (but still not as bad as Barkley)

i've never felt welcomed here because of my brutally honest takes, but sharing opinions about what i just spent almost 3 hours watching is part of the sport for me -- regardless of who reads or cares.

i do confess that i really get pissed when someone tries to bully me into silence with insults. and when i see it happen to someone else.

You came on the board and accused a long time member of being a rat... and then complain about bullying?

Lol.

 

[1tinsoldier]

Like... 0 of your 5 points were heavily argued against, especially Booker shouldn't be playing point and the Paul trade, very few people were against either of those things.

1. Igor
2. Booker overexerting himself at the point (like Harden)
5. Booker's flaws
all sparked intense disagreements and personal attacks
that's a fact you can look up, and others could verify but won't because there are cliques here

 

[1tinsoldier]

You came on the board and accused a long time member of being a rat... and then complain about bullying?

Lol.

someone posted a clip of Jack Nicholson mimicking a rat but i never called anyone that or pointed a finger at anyone specifically because that is simply not the right thing to do.

and if calling me an "idiot" 3 times and a "coward" twice in one night is not bullying and a violation of this forum's "Personal Attack" rules, i don't know what is.

 

[1tinsoldier]

but what's that you say about a "long-time poster?" hmmm, are you slyly hinting at another clue?
-- suggesting we find out when Sarver bought the Suns and checking to see if any poster in this thread joined this forum soon after that? why, that would have to be way back, before Facebook, when sports-talk-forums were the best game in town for posters to influence public opinion for an owner and his business.

oh, but that would only be more circumstantial evidence anyway, so why bother?
and posting while being "connected" is not a violation of anything, anyway.

let's just forget the whole thing. i was just funnin
you know -- LOL

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[Hoop Head]

someone posted a clip of Jack Nicholson mimicking a rat but i never called anyone that or pointed a finger at anyone specifically because that is simply not the right thing to do.

and if calling me an "idiot" 3 times and a "coward" twice in one night is not bullying and a violation of this forum's "Personal Attack" rules, i don't know what is.

That was your whole goal from your first post in this thread and it's been obvious from the start. Dance around and toss out vague accusations waiting for someone to bite and call you an idiot so you can play the victim. You're a troll and a sad one at that. At least 1Sun had thick enough skin that he didn't claim he's bullied when people disagreed with him. Even with all his gloom and doom takes he also never claimed anyone here was paid by Sarver to influence public opinion either.

 

[1tinsoldier]

oh, stop your hyperventilating
i don't know why you're getting involved in this?

 

[Phrazbit]

1. Igor
2. Booker overexerting himself at the point (like Harden)
5. Booker's flaws
all sparked intense disagreements and personal attacks
that's a fact you can look up, and others could verify but won't because there are cliques here

1. I'm not going to back track on when you in particular hopped on the "Fire Igor" bandwagon, but that bandwagon had a LOT of riders well before he got canned.

2. Literally NO ONE was like "Gee wiz, I am thrilled with the entire offense and play making resting on Booker!" There were some posters preferred "point book" over the garbage that we had on hand at the time, but again... NO ONE was objecting to bringing in a real point guard.

5. ... Booker's flaws... I don't think anyone on this board has ever claimed he was flawless. Just look at the game thread tonight and see how much flack he pulled. I would loooove to you backing up that posters here ripped you to shred for pointing out Booker's flaws.

I post here a ton, I enjoy the heated debates... but, outside of seeing you whining about other posters, I don't remember you playing a part in any memorable discourse.

 

[Phrazbit]

oh, stop your hyperventilating
i don't know why you're getting involved in this?

He, like everyone else, is hoping you will sack up and actually make a direct accusation. He probably also hopes you will accuse him, just to add to his laughter at this insane turn to the "Sarver is a scumbag" thread.

 

[Cheesebeef]

someone posted a clip of Jack Nicholson mimicking a rat but i never called anyone that or pointed a finger at anyone specifically because that is simply not the right thing to do.

and if calling me an "idiot" 3 times and a "coward" twice in one night is not bullying and a violation of this forum's "Personal Attack" rules, i don't know what is.

If you’re going to keep polluting the board while not having the courage to stand behind your convictions and continue calling someone here a “rat”, what else could you be called but an idiot or coward? They’re the perfect words to describe you under those circumstances.

 

[Hoop Head]

oh, stop your hyperventilating
i don't know why you're getting involved in this?

Who are you to question why anyone is involved in a discussion here?

I've been positing in this thread from the beginning while you just showed up to accuse users here of covering for Sarver. If I wanted to entertain the ridiculous conspiracy theory you concocted I'd say you look like the most likely suspect since you completely derailed this thread.

Of course I don't think you're on Sarver's payroll though. You are similar to him in one unique way though, you both leave trails of goat crap behind where you've been.

 

[1tinsoldier]

interesting -- the posters who line up to "shoot the messenger" -- quick to condemn and insult me for pointing out the very curious connections between the Sarver-saver and someone here, but nay a negative word or question about the "courage" of someone who:
-- may have been secretly injecting Sarver's agenda here for 17 years -- an agenda that arguably steered the team to being one of the worst in the league for over a decade because he wanted control of everyone and everything.
-- leading the thought-police into harassing and purging the site of critical fans (who want what's best for the team, but disagree about what that is)
-- calling it a wild & crazy notion that of all the people Sarver is either business or personally connected with in this community, one might actually post here and be looking out for his personal/business interests!?

BUT IT'S TIME TO CLOSE THE CURTAIN ON THIS MORALITY PLAY
it IS highly relevant to our Suns and us all here, but if you choose to just follow the bouncing ball, please do skip the sermon to follow, and pardon the interruption.

he-who-shall-remain-nameless knows i know who he is, that i may be able to prove it, and that i warned him he'd be sorry if he didn't stop his bulletin-board bullying

honestly, i chose to let him be last year, and move on myself, out of sympathy. we all have baggage -- reasons for being the way we are. but when i saw that manipulative site i knew i had to say something

i outed him in this thread. then i saved him. he knows that too

i didn't want to bully the bully, but someone had to step up. after all, the whole Sarver saga is about exactly that -- BULLYING. it's no coincidence that Sarver and his Saver share personality traits.

bullying is exactly what Sarver is being investigated for -- and likely condemned for, regardless of whether he loses ownership

he-who-shall-remain-nameless should know that Black Lives Matters As Much As Yours (or, at least, knows how to exploit it on that website in defense of Sarver)

Sarver is being investigated for abusing his power to:
* bully people of color
* bully employees and treat them like lowly servants
* bully women

that is NOT acceptable to the outer community that supports his team

and that should NOT be acceptable to this forum community that supports this team and this site. Yes, most people here get that. but most don't get it when it's playing out in these discussion groups or just look the other way. hell, when 2 posters start getting personal and childish i get annoyed and skip over them too. that is not what this is about.

i keep saying i'll stop posting here. and i will one of these days. but NOT because any Sarver-saver or anyone else bullies me into silence

and if i do leave. i'll still be watching. "Wherever there's a thought-police cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there."

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