Rock Band 2

[Mulli]

56 Rage Against the Machine - Testify


Awesome!

 

[BigRedRage]

the list cant be right as judas priest painkiller is already out.

looks better but still dissapointing....i bet GH4 setlist will be sick

 

[Mulli]

I saw on G4 that Led Zep is not letting them use their songs. If they did, I might get permission to get this.

 

[abomb]

56 Rage Against the Machine - Testify


Awesome!

Loves it.

 

[Mulli]

Loves it.

I would love to blast my neighbors with some RATM.

 

[abomb]

Didnt see this on here;

Rock Band 2 to have all of Rock Band 1's tracks as free download?


According to IGN, Rock Band 2 will come with all the original game's tracks available as a free download. This is what IGN 360 editor Nate Ahern says: "Immediately upon purchasing Rock Band 2 you'll have the ability to download a huge library of songs, as well as all of the songs off of the original disc as a free download." That can't be right though, can it?

You can look at this in two ways. First off, all those who bought the original Rock Band are probably going to be a bit miffed if they can't access their library of disc and download songs once they have the new game. Okay, it wouldn't be a huge pain to just insert the disc and play the old game, but presumably RB2 is going to bring in some gameplay elements that would enhance the play of songs. Fair enough. The majority of original Rock Band players are going to fall into this category too and will be the ones most likely to get the sequel.

But then look at the PS3 version situation over here. *Brief check of Play.com* Nope still not out here. In fact by the time EA bothers to release the PS3 version, RB2 will basically be out in the US. If it does contain all the original tracks for free (and improved gameplay) why even bother with the original game? Even the instruments are sold separately here. A brief import later and Bob's your Uncle - two games for the price of one. Sweet!

Generous and sensible and accessible and heart-warming though the idea is, it doesn't make a huge amount of business sense. At this stage though, approximately three decades after the game got its release across the pond, I'm inclined to think EA, MTV and Harmonix deserve everything they get as the result of such a decision.

Perhaps then they will choose to treat us different, which wouldn't be a big surprise really. That kind of idea won't inspire customer loyalty or good will though. I'm going to have a guess and say that EA will probably enforce some kind of verification system for RB2 to ensure you have bought the original game disc. Presumably this will be clarified at E3.

 

[abomb]

I would love to blast my neighbors with some RATM.

They aint seen the browns this mad since their grandparents bought one.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Nah. you're just jealous it's the Beastie Boys!!!!

Beastie Boys were already on RB1. Nothing from License to Ill though.

 

[Mulli]

They aint seen the browns this mad since their grandparents bought one.

Now do what they told ya, and turn it down.

 

[abomb]

Now do what they told ya, and turn it down.

Wow, apparently the lyric I quoted is actually "aint seen a brown skin man since their...."

 

[Mulli]

Wow, apparently the lyric I quoted is actually "aint seen a brown skin man since their...."

I thought you were just changing the line. You didn't know it was brownskinman?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I saw on G4 that Led Zep is not letting them use their songs. If they did, I might get permission to get this.

Nope. They don't want anyone touching their master tracks, which is what RB wants for all of its songs.

 

[Mulli]

Nope. They don't want anyone touching their master tracks, which is what RB wants for all of its songs.

good for them.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

good for them.

Yeah, I'm glad RB demands master tracks. One of the many reasons RB >>> GH

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Didnt see this on here;

Rock Band 2 to have all of Rock Band 1's tracks as free download?


According to IGN, Rock Band 2 will come with all the original game's tracks available as a free download. This is what IGN 360 editor Nate Ahern says: "Immediately upon purchasing Rock Band 2 you'll have the ability to download a huge library of songs, as well as all of the songs off of the original disc as a free download." That can't be right though, can it?

You can look at this in two ways. First off, all those who bought the original Rock Band are probably going to be a bit miffed if they can't access their library of disc and download songs once they have the new game. Okay, it wouldn't be a huge pain to just insert the disc and play the old game, but presumably RB2 is going to bring in some gameplay elements that would enhance the play of songs. Fair enough. The majority of original Rock Band players are going to fall into this category too and will be the ones most likely to get the sequel.

But then look at the PS3 version situation over here. *Brief check of Play.com* Nope still not out here. In fact by the time EA bothers to release the PS3 version, RB2 will basically be out in the US. If it does contain all the original tracks for free (and improved gameplay) why even bother with the original game? Even the instruments are sold separately here. A brief import later and Bob's your Uncle - two games for the price of one. Sweet!

Generous and sensible and accessible and heart-warming though the idea is, it doesn't make a huge amount of business sense. At this stage though, approximately three decades after the game got its release across the pond, I'm inclined to think EA, MTV and Harmonix deserve everything they get as the result of such a decision.

Perhaps then they will choose to treat us different, which wouldn't be a big surprise really. That kind of idea won't inspire customer loyalty or good will though. I'm going to have a guess and say that EA will probably enforce some kind of verification system for RB2 to ensure you have bought the original game disc. Presumably this will be clarified at E3.

If its true, that is one heck of a trump card. I'm not believing it though, the music industry isn't exactly known for saying "well sure you can give away our stuff however you'd like."

Yeah, I'm glad RB demands master tracks. One of the many reasons RB >>> GH

Thankfully, all of the GHWT songs will be master tracks as well.

 

[Covert Rain]

If its true, that is one heck of a trump card. I'm not believing it though, the music industry isn't exactly known for saying "well sure you can give away our stuff however you'd like."

I don't think it's that far fetched. The majority of your sales base purchased Rock Band 1 and have already purchased much of the music already. I also bet that this was also negotiated before hand when signing bands/labels etc for the first game. Harmonix has had a road map about their games for some time. Knowing they wanted to be backwards compatible isn't something they thought of at the last minute.

Plus some of these older bands are not doing jack right now. So getting some exposure on their old stuff and getting people to buy their music again is a plus. So giving Harmonix rights to port over music to new versions is probably not a hard sell. I seriously doubt future compatibility is hindered by the music industry as much as the developers hoping to make more profit by getting people to repurchase content.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Perhaps, but the music business is still one of the most control freakish groups out there when it comes to intellectual property. Time will tell, but I just won't be holding my breath on Rock Band releasing all of their old content for free. Even if (and that is still a big if) they wanted to.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Another list. Pretty sure this list is a fake, but I'm going to post this anyway, as the first list I posted is considered rumor at this point too.

I'm going to spoiler it though.

Spoiler

Warmup:

If You Wanna Get to Heaven - Ozark Mountain Devils
Gold Lion - Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Possum Kingdom - The Toadies
Black Betty - Ram Jam
Don't Speak - No Doubt
Black - Pearl Jam
Drain You - Nirvana
Farmhouse - Phish
Santaria - Sublime

Apprentice:

You Oughta Know - Alanis Morrisette
We Got the Beat - The Go-Gos
Float On - Modest Mouse
Kiss Me Deadly - Lita Ford
Atomic - Blondie
Heartbreaker - Pat Benatar
Piece of My Heart - Janice Joplin
Rock the Casbah - The Clash
I Wanna Be Sedated - The Ramones

Solid:

Panic Attack - Finger Eleven
Chop Suey - System of a Down
Give it Away - Red Hot Chili Peppers
Everlong - Foo Fighters
Kids in America - Kim Wilde
Ace of Spades - Motorhead
Hello There - ?Cheap Trick?
Anyway You Want It - Journey
Pinball Wizard - The Who

Moderate:

Machinehead - Bush
Born to Run - Bruce Springsteen
What's the Frequency Kenneth? - REM
Want To - ?
I Write Sins Not Tragedies - Panic at the Disco
The Old Apartment - Barenaked Ladies
When I Come Around - Green Day
Zombie - The Cranberries
Soak Up the Sun - ?Sheryl Crow?

Skilled:

Waiting on the World to Change - John Mayer
Man in the Box - Alice in Chains
Ramblin' Man - The Allman Brothers
One Step Closer - Linkin Park
Misery Business - Paramore
American Woman - The Guess Who
White Wedding - Billy Idol
(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones
Folsom Prison Blues - Johnny Cash

Challenging:

Our Truth - Lacuna Coil
Are You Gonna Go My Way - Lenny Kravitz
Bring Me To Life - Evanescence
Spoonman - Soundgarden
Head Like a Hole - Nine Inch Nails
Aqualung - Jethro Tull
Double Vision - Foreigner
Rodeo - ?Rage Against the Machine?
Sultans of Swing - Dire Straits

Blistering:

Magic Man - Heart
Bad Medicine - Bon Jovi
Every Little Thing She Does is Magic - The Police
Thnks Fr Th Mmrs - Fall Out Boy
Testify - Rage Against the Machine
Kickstart My Heart - Motley Crue
I Was Made For Lovin' You - Kiss
Bad Reputation - Joan Jett
Prodigal Son - Sevendust

Nightmare:

The Bleeding - Five Finger Death
Down With the Sickness - Disturbed
Hyper Music - Muse
Judith - A Perfect Circle
TNT - AC/DC
Rainbow in the Dark - Dio
Anna Molly - Incubus
November Rain - Guns N' Roses
Comfortably Numb - !!!!!!PINK FLOYD!!!!!!!

Impossible:

Feed My Frankenstein - Alice Cooper
Peace Sells - Megadeth
Fuel - Metallica
Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne
Forsaken - ?Dream Theater?
2 Minutes to Midnight - Iron Maiden
Hot for Teacher - Van Halen
Cowboys from Hell - Pantera
(Ghost) Riders in the Sky - The Outlaws

 

[azsouthendzone]

November Rain would be sick.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Going by this, it looks like the first list DCR posted is correct, at least so far.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/887/887494p1.html

 

[BigRedRage]

cowboys from hell would be cool but I can think of songs id rather play.

Comfort by floyd would be sickkkkkkkkk

 

[LVG]

Posted by the Seattle PI about a day ago - apologies if this has already been posted:

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/digitaljoystick/archives/142978.asp

Major points:

Key Features
Rock the World!
Rock Band 2 offers new and dynamic online modes that will connect the entire Rock Band community in more ways than ever before, both locally and globally.

Rock in Style!
Rock Band 2 introduces a new variety of instrument choices all with new and improved drum and guitar peripherals, enhanced functionality and innovative new designs. All Rock Band 2 instruments are fully compatible with the original Rock Band. Conversely, all Rock Band peripherals will be fully compatible with Rock Band 2.

Unrivaled Song Library!
Rock Band 2 features the biggest and most diverse soundtrack ever featuring some of rock's most prolific acts, comprised entirely of master recordings.

Complete the Look!
Rock Band 2 delivers new clothing, accessories, tattoos, hairstyles, instruments and more to keep your unique rock avatar playing the full rock part.

Battle it Out!
Go head to head competing against other bands with Battle of the Bands contests that will be generated by Harmonix on a regular basis.

Stay on Top!
Stay the undisputed leader board champion with real time alerts updating you when another rocker or band has surpassed your score!

Take on Tour Challenges!
Play through mini-campaigns focused on a specific instrument, your favorite artist, your preferred genre, or a particular album.

Customizable Set Lists!
Create your own set lists in Quickplay mode to keep the music rolling and your band rocking!

Rock 'n' Roll Never Dies!
Rock Band 2 offers backwards compatibility with Rock Band downloadable content- all previously purchased tracks will immediately load into your Rock Band 2 play list!

Game Modes

Quickplay
Now easier than ever to get in and jam without hassle.
- New prefab characters
- Your customized characters can now play on any instrument
- Make your own set lists
- Organize song lists by a variety of categories (alphabetical, genre, era, etc.)

World Tour
Solo Tour and Band World Tour join forces to create the ultimate band touring experience!
- World Tour is now online
- No more band leaders! If you need to fire your guitarist but keep the band going, fire away!
- Switch up instruments throughout world tour
- All new collection of opportunity gigs, challenges, cities, venues, and hirable staff

Tour Challenges
Take your band on tour in a whole new way with specific music challenges.
- Focused mini-campaigns featuring the best songs by instrument, decade, genre or artist
- Automatically generated DLC challenges
- Album specific challenges

Battle of the Bands
Put your band to the ultimate test by competing against other bands, both on your friends list and around the world!
- Dynamic content with regular new contests designed by Harmonix
- Matches up your score against overall competition and friends' bands - with REAL TIME feedback
- Get updates on new battles from your Band Profile, as well as notifications when your score has been topped!

Drum Trainer
A true teaching tool that gives players a step-by-step lesson through the basic beat and fill vocabulary any real world drummer would know.

Confirmed songs / bands:

2000s
Dream Theater "Panic Attack "
System of a Down "Chop Suey"
1990s
Foo Fighters "Everlong"
The Muffs "Kids in America"
Red Hot Chili Peppers "Give it Away"
1980s
Motörhead "Ace of Spades"
1970s
Cheap Trick "Hello There"
Elvis Costello "Pump it Up"
Journey "Anyway You Want It"
1960s
The Who "Pinball Wizard"

 

[BigRedRage]

setlists and genrelists are good news.

 

[Covert Rain]

Time will tell, but I just won't be holding my breath on Rock Band releasing all of their old content for free. Even if (and that is still a big if) they wanted to.

I don't think it's going to be free for those that have not already purchased the content via Rock Band 1. I don't see that happening and Harmonix makes no such claim in their official press release. However, the official Press Release has some great news for us RB1 people who have already purchase content. Much of what was already stated appears to be official in regards to backwards compatibility with already purchased content and your old instruments.

Official Press Release:

Press Release Follows:
Cambridge, Mass. – June 30, 2008 – Harmonix, the world’s premier music video game company in the world, and MTV Games, a part of Viacom’s MTV Networks (NYSE: VIA, VIA.B), along with marketing and distribution partner Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: ERTS), are taking the groundbreaking music platform that forever changed the face of music video games to the next level this September with the release of Rock Band 2. With the original providing millions of players a new way to interact with the music and artists they love, Rock Band 2 is the next evolution of the franchise that redefined the standard for music games.
Rock Band is the groundbreaking platform that allows music fans and gamers to interact with music like never before - challenging players to put together a band and tour for fame and fortune while learning to master lead/bass guitar, drums and vocals.
Rock Band 2 builds upon its foundation as the first music game to introduce co-operative band gameplay, multiple instruments, a robust online multiplayer experience, an unrivaled offering of downloadable content and raises the bar by delivering an entirely new level of depth, connectivity, authenticity and features including:

• Backwards compatibility with Rock Band downloadable music content. All previously purchased tracks will immediately load into your Rock Band 2 song list. No need to re-purchase or re-download.
• The biggest and most diverse soundtrack ever featuring some of rock’s most prolific acts, comprised entirely of master recordings.
• Major new and dynamic online modes that will connect the entire Rock Band community in more ways than ever before both locally and globally.
• More variety of instrument choices than ever before with new and improved drum and guitar peripherals, enhanced functionality and innovative new designs - all fully compatible with the original Rock Band instruments.
• And much more.

“As successful as the original Rock Band continues to be, we’ve now had the benefit of the last eight months to listen to our fans’ requests and to build upon that foundation,” said Alex Rigopulos, co-founder and CEO of Harmonix. “Rock Band 2 is a second-generation band game that will elevate the music game experience to the next level.”
Rock Band 2 will make its debut on Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft this September and have an exclusive launch window in North America. Rock Band 2 will be available for additional platforms later this year.
“We expect Rock Band 2 to continue to drive an amazing social music experience on Xbox 360, said David Hufford, senior director, Xbox Product Management for the Interactive Entertainment Business, Microsoft. “We look forward to supporting Rock Band 2 on Xbox 360 as gamers continue to download hundreds of new music tracks from Xbox LIVE so they and their friends can perform the rock music they love most.
More details regarding features and music for Rock Band 2 will be revealed at the 2008 E3 Media & Business Summit. Rock Band, the first installment in the franchise, garnered more than 40 awards including Game Critics Award: Best of Show E3 2007.
In addition, Harmonix and MTV Games today announced that The Rock Band online music store recently surpassed 15 million paid downloads since the game’s launch in late November 2007. With more than 200 tracks available to date via download purchase (complete list of tracks at http://www.rockband.com/dlc), the massive Rock Band Music Store allows players to preview and purchase downloadable individual music tracks, packs and albums from the vast selection of offerings available as they build their own custom Rock Band library.
Rock Band 2 is rated “T” for Teen (lyrics, mild suggestive themes) by the ESRB.

 

[Covert Rain]

More info I found today. RB2 is not only going to make their own instruments but are going to encourage 3rd party development as well. In of the articles posted earlier Harmonix mentioned a new way to bridge the gap between the game instruments and real instruments. Could this be it?


http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ionaudio-drumset-proto2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.filefront.com/rock-band-madness-ion-audio-rock-band-drum-kit/&h=245&w=310&sz=74&tbnid=OXAA8Y3DXREJ::&tbnh=92&tbnw=117&prev=/images%3Fq%3DRock%2BBand%2B2%2Bdrum%2Bset%2Bphoto&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=1

Rock Band Madness: ION Audio Rock Band Drum Kit

Posted by Steve on Saturday, January 12th, 2008 at 2:43 pm under Electronic Arts, Game Companies, Game Consoles, Game Platforms, Games, Microsoft, Sony

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This past week or so has been pretty crazy regarding Rock Band gear, both custom and official. Rounding the New Year we saw an official announcement regarding Mad Catz development of 3rd party Rock Band peripherals. At CES we saw SoundTech’s Ediface gadget that allows real guitars to be used in Rock Band. Also at CES, we saw Nyoko showing off a guitar controller that is both compatible with Guitar Hero III and Rock Band. And just today, I noticed EB Games listing an item in their electronic store that instantly had me shaking my head in disbelief: The Rock Band Stage Kit (sorry, no photos).
When does all this Rock Band madness end?
Probably the slickest news coming out of all of this Rock Band insanity is the CES showcasing of a new Rock Band drum kit designed by the professionals over at ION Audio. ION Audio, of course, is famous for its line of professional electronic music equipment (turntables, mixing boards, electronic drums, etc.). The prototype drum kit (shown above) was presented at CES 2008 this past week and is, no doubt, targeting the more extreme Rock Band audience. Right off, one can observe the quality make of the pseudo-instrument. ION’s drum kit authentically appears as if it could absorb even the most extreme poundings from would-be drummers. Considering the seemingly fragile reputation of Harmonix’s stock Rock Band drum kit, ION’s kit could provide a nice, if expensive, alternative for Rock Band owners and fans.