Rockets are looking to give away Thomas Robinson .... Suns should grab him!

[asuhoopsnut]

They are trying to clear his 3.52 million dollar contract off their payroll so that they can use the money for their push to get Dwight Howard. They are said to be willing to take either expiring contracts, a draft pick or just cash. If I was the Suns, I'd jump at the opportunity to get him. Given some time (which the Suns now have), I think he could be a player. Just my opinion. The link to the article is below:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--h...space-for-run-at-dwight-howard-215915027.html

 

[Cheesebeef]

i think this would be a good move. take advantage of another team looking to offload salary/talent for once.

 

[overseascardfan]

I don't think McDonough is looking to deal away picks. Do PHX have an expiring contract on the roster?

 

[Phrazbit]

They are trying to clear his 3.52 million dollar contract off their payroll so that they can use the money for their push to get Dwight Howard. They are said to be willing to take either expiring contracts, a draft pick or just cash. If I was the Suns, I'd jump at the opportunity to get him. Given some time (which the Suns now have), I think he could be a player. Just my opinion. The link to the article is below:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--h...space-for-run-at-dwight-howard-215915027.html

I'd do it in a heartbeat, but I gotta think an expiring does not help them much. He IS an expiring next year if they didnt pick up his option. Maybe let them have the worse of our pick and the Laker pick in 2015... or if they're really desperate just absorb his salary entirely for a future 2nd.

 

[Phrazbit]

I'd take him and crazy Royce White off their hands, that would clear up 5 mil, for a future 2nd or perhaps Shannon Brown's contract, which has a buyout option.

 

[Joe Mama]

Robinson is another tweener. I certainly wouldn't give any draft picks for him. There's a reason they are willing to give him away.

 

[asuhoopsnut]

Joe ..... I always look forward to reading your posts and have the utmost respect for you. I usually agree with your point of view. This time I am going to respectfully disagree. I believe that he can develop into a very good power forward. He is 6' 10" and 240 lbs. He is young and his body is still maturing. Robinson averaged approx. 5 pts. and 5 rebounds last year in 15 min. per game. His stat line in his Senior season at Kansas, was 16 points, 13 rebounds, and 5 blocks per game for the season. I believe that his best basketball is ahead of him. If you can get him on the cheap, you grab him and see if you can develop him. I don't believe there would be much of a risk here!

 

[cly2tw]

TRob is a natural defender with great athleticism and court smarts. His offense is extremely raw and has stone hands for layup and short jumpers, similar to Shumpert.

 

[elindholm]

Heck, I'd give up the #30 for him right now. What are the odds that a better prospect will be on the board?

Edit: LOL, I didn't realize he was the #5 overall pick just a year ago. His stock can't have fallen that dramatically, can it?

 

[overseascardfan]

I don't think PHX is a good trade partner. Robinson would be blocked by both Morris' on the roster plus Scola is also still with the team. HOU probably won't be seeking a 1st rounder because the contract would be guaranteed and they are trying to add cap space so this deal will be a salary dump. So unless PHX is planning on doing something about the logjam at PF first and have an expiring contract to package possibly with their 2nd round pick, Robinson will be dealt somewhere else.

Also, one has to wonder why HOU wouldn't want to keep Robinson if they felt he was a key piece of their future especially a young guy only making $3.2M. They could deal someone else but feel Robinson doesn't fit into their plans, neither did SAC.

 

[JS22]

I don't think PHX is a good trade partner. Robinson would be blocked by both Morris' on the roster plus Scola is also still with the team. HOU probably won't be seeking a 1st rounder because the contract would be guaranteed and they are trying to add cap space so this deal will be a salary dump. So unless PHX is planning on doing something about the logjam at PF first and have an expiring contract to package possibly with their 2nd round pick, Robinson will be dealt somewhere else.

Also, one has to wonder why HOU wouldn't want to keep Robinson if they felt he was a key piece of their future especially a young guy only making $3.2M. They could deal someone else but feel Robinson doesn't fit into their plans, neither did SAC.

Trade the wonder twins and make room for him.

 

[elindholm]

I don't think PHX is a good trade partner. Robinson would be blocked by both Morris' on the roster plus Scola is also still with the team.

That's not a reason not to pursue him. If he still has the potential to be worthy of the #5 overall pick -- and I don't know whether he does -- then you don't let Marcus Freaking Morris block him out of a roster spot. That's just insane.

So unless PHX is planning on doing something about the logjam at PF first and have an expiring contract to package possibly with their 2nd round pick, Robinson will be dealt somewhere else.

Can't Phoenix absorb his salary outright? They could trade one of those future Laker picks that's going to be in the 20s somewhere.

Also, one has to wonder why HOU wouldn't want to keep Robinson if they felt he was a key piece of their future especially a young guy only making $3.2M. They could deal someone else but feel Robinson doesn't fit into their plans, neither did SAC.

Sacramento has their hands full with Cousins. As for the Rockets, Robinson is (believe it or not) their fourth-largest guaranteed salary for next season, behind Hardin, Asik, and Lin. (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/houston.htm) If they're trying to make room for Howard, moving Robinson is a lot easier than moving two or three small-salary guys.

 

[JustWinBaby]

I don't think PHX is a good trade partner. Robinson would be blocked by both Morris' on the roster plus Scola is also still with the team. HOU probably won't be seeking a 1st rounder because the contract would be guaranteed and they are trying to add cap space so this deal will be a salary dump. So unless PHX is planning on doing something about the logjam at PF first and have an expiring contract to package possibly with their 2nd round pick, Robinson will be dealt somewhere else.

Also, one has to wonder why HOU wouldn't want to keep Robinson if they felt he was a key piece of their future especially a young guy only making $3.2M. They could deal someone else but feel Robinson doesn't fit into their plans, neither did SAC.

I don't think anyone blocks anyone on this roster. We need talent in the worst way.

I do wonder why the #5 pick was traded during his 1st season and why he is on the block in his 1st off season. Freeing cap room could be a cover up for other issues that he must have.

I expect Ryan will at least look at it. I don't think it is a slam dunk by any means.

 

[cly2tw]

I don't think anyone blocks anyone on this roster. We need talent in the worst way.

I do wonder why the #5 pick was traded during his 1st season and why he is on the block in his 1st off season. Freeing cap room could be a cover up for other issues that he must have.

I expect Ryan will at least look at it. I don't think it is a slam dunk by any means.

I watched his plays with Rockets. His defense was very good but his offense was atrocious and add to the problem he seemed to want to prove his offense too much that became detrimental. On that roster, Terrence Jones is defensively about the same and offensively much further along. DMo is also much better on offense. But none of them saw much consistent time either, after TRob was benched for good after 5 or so games. They had no semi reliable offense from their big men, and McHale used a lot of small ball with Delfino at PF.

So, I believe they see him as too raw to be ready any time soon, have no playing time to develop him, have cheaper and readier prospects from the same draft on team. But I wouldn't say he is already a bust or people were wrong with his longterm potential evaluation.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

That's not a reason not to pursue him. If he still has the potential to be worthy of the #5 overall pick -- and I don't know whether he does -- then you don't let Marcus Freaking Morris block him out of a roster spot. That's just insane.

Exactly, the Morris brothers are blocking 8-9 guys on a bad bench. I'd give up #30 or take on an expiring contract for Robinson. If you could just have him as a rebounding/defensive machine, that would be well worth it.

 

[hcsilla]

I'd take him and crazy Royce White off their hands, that would clear up 5 mil, for a future 2nd or perhaps Shannon Brown's contract, which has a buyout option.

That's a reasonable deal for both sides.

 

[slinslin]

First of all Thomas Robinson has been absolutely horrible, there is no reason to think he would suddenly be able to step in here and do anything.

Second of all we already have too many undersized power forwards.

Third of all he is best friends with Markieff and Marcus.

Fourth before we use our capspace to absorb T-Rob I would rather get Dallas first round pick #13, if we have enough capspace left I wouldn't mind T-Rob.

 

[slinslin]

That's a reasonable deal for both sides.

Really? At this point that is 2 bad contracts for us that run at least 2 more years.

Why would we give up a 2nd or take on White in addition to Thomas Robinson?

 

[Errntknght]

If Robinson is a good defender, as Cly claims, I'd do it. He's a strong rebounder. And he doesn't shoot 3's. (I wanted to say something nice about his offense.) Do you think Houston would give back the 2nd rounder we gave them for Marcus... hey we'd give him back, too, if they were willing.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Why give up anything? If we have the cap space, just take him and ask for a pick to boot.

But only do it if we believe he can.develop. I am sure McDonough has a pretty good idea of what kind of player he is.

Let's offer them the #5 for Harden. That would clear a load of space for them. They could then draft Oladipo, McLemore, or McCollum.

I have a hunch we are going to try to make a in free agency this summer.

 

[Joe Mama]

Joe ..... I always look forward to reading your posts and have the utmost respect for you. I usually agree with your point of view. This time I am going to respectfully disagree. I believe that he can develop into a very good power forward. He is 6' 10" and 240 lbs. He is young and his body is still maturing. Robinson averaged approx. 5 pts. and 5 rebounds last year in 15 min. per game. His stat line in his Senior season at Kansas, was 16 points, 13 rebounds, and 5 blocks per game for the season. I believe that his best basketball is ahead of him. If you can get him on the cheap, you grab him and see if you can develop him. I don't believe there would be much of a risk here!

maybe he has grown since he was drafted, but at that time he was 6'8.75" in shoes with a standing reach of 8'10". Morris was an inch taller with a half-inch better standing reach. Now Robinson is obviously more athletic but I would say Robinson does not have prototypical power forward size. The fact that he is offensively challenged and he is now on his second team that is essentially giving him away on his rookie contract makes me want to pass at $3 million per season, Especially if it means giving up a draft pick as well. I don't know what the protections are on our future Lakers picks, but given their current status and uncertain future I certainly wouldn't be getting rid of those right now.

Joe

 

[SirStefan32]

maybe he has grown since he was drafted, but at that time he was 6'8.75" in shoes with a standing reach of 8'10". Morris was an inch taller with a half-inch better standing reach. Now Robinson is obviously more athletic but I would say Robinson does not have prototypical power forward size. The fact that he is offensively challenged and he is now on his second team that is essentially giving him away on his rookie contract makes me want to pass at $3 million per season, Especially if it means giving up a draft pick as well. I don't know what the protections are on our future Lakers picks, but given their current status and uncertain future I certainly wouldn't be getting rid of those right now.

Joe

I am not worried about his height, but for someone his age, he is very light.
I'd have to watch him a bit more to form an opinion, but I wouldn't give up much for him right now.

EDIT: I must not be remembering something correctly. He is listed between 235 and 245lb, which is more than I thought. His wingspan seems to be better than I remembered. If we can lose Scola, I'd be OK trading #30 for him, or a few second rounders/ Brown if Houston wants absolutely no guaranteed salary in return. Any way we could get them to include Patrick Beverly?

 

[sunsfan88]

I'm not saying that Robinson is a bust because its way too early to decides that but there's probably a reason (other than just salary cap reasons) that he's been bounced around twice in just his FIRST year in the league and now is looking at joining his 3rd team within just one year in the NBA. He didn't show anything at all in SAC or Houston. He doesn't have a post game at all and he can't protect the rim as a big man. Below average shot blocker.

Good thing about adding Robinson is that we could run with a bench front court of Morris-Morris-Robinson and that would resemble the Kansas' starting front court of the past.

 

[slinslin]

maybe he has grown since he was drafted, but at that time he was 6'8.75" in shoes with a standing reach of 8'10". Morris was an inch taller with a half-inch better standing reach. Now Robinson is obviously more athletic but I would say Robinson does not have prototypical power forward size. The fact that he is offensively challenged and he is now on his second team that is essentially giving him away on his rookie contract makes me want to pass at $3 million per season, Especially if it means giving up a draft pick as well. I don't know what the protections are on our future Lakers picks, but given their current status and uncertain future I certainly wouldn't be getting rid of those right now.

Joe

Robinson is not even that athletic. 28.5" no step vert and 35.5" max. Kendall Marshall has 31"/37"..

 

[Phrazbit]

First of all Thomas Robinson has been absolutely horrible, there is no reason to think he would suddenly be able to step in here and do anything.

Second of all we already have too many undersized power forwards.

Third of all he is best friends with Markieff and Marcus.

Fourth before we use our capspace to absorb T-Rob I would rather get Dallas first round pick #13, if we have enough capspace left I wouldn't mind T-Rob.

Robinson has been in the league ONE year and he hardly played. And no one is expecting him to come in and instantly thrill.

Second, Robinson is not undersized. 6'9" 244, 7'3" wingspan.

You'd rather have the 13th pick in this draft that the 5th pick in last years? I'd gladly take Robinson over most of the guys projected in the top 20 this year.

Really? At this point that is 2 bad contracts for us that run at least 2 more years.

Why would we give up a 2nd or take on White in addition to Thomas Robinson?

They dont run at least two more years. They're 2nd year players on their rookie contracts, team options next year on both. White could be released tomorrow with no long term sweat.

Robinson is not even that athletic. 28.5" no step vert and 35.5" max. Kendall Marshall has 31"/37"..

And really slin? Nice comparison. I would hope that as a point guard Marshall would have more jumping ability than a considerably heavier and larger player. Hey, Marhsall can also out jump Andre Drummond and John Henson! Thank god we dodged those bullets.