Rodney Hudson - returns after holding out?

[Cheesebeef]

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I hope the team realizes it needs 5 offensive linemen.

From the way it treated the draft and FA, in the wake of knowing Hudson likely wasn’t coming back, that could be up for discussion…

 

[Chopper0080]

LOL, coincidence, I'm sure.

This comment and the timing of that from the AZ Cardinals made me laugh.

 

[Chopper0080]

I hope the team realizes it needs 5 offensive linemen.

From the way it treated the draft and FA, in the wake of knowing Hudson likely wasn’t coming back, that could be up for discussion…

I like the idea of Marquise Brown and the story I can tell myself of how it all works, but knowing what we know now, it seems like Keim had to decide to address C OR WR and chose WR because he thought he could talk Hudson into coming back.

 

[BritCard]

I like the idea of Marquise Brown and the story I can tell myself of how it all works, but knowing what we know now, it seems like Keim had to decide to address C OR WR and chose WR because he thought he could talk Hudson into coming back.

Just to point out the "Cards knew before the draft" also came from the same Chuck Harris tweet. We don't know that's accurate. That's the only source of this info.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I hope the team realizes it needs 5 offensive linemen.

From the way it treated the draft and FA, in the wake of knowing Hudson likely wasn’t coming back, that could be up for discussion…

You know you can't discuss this right? It wasn't verified by Shefter or Rappaport.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Just to point out the "Cards knew before the draft" also came from the same Chuck Harris tweet. We don't know that's accurate. That's the only source of this info.

BS. Here's our other starting guard (also considering retirement, vs. playing for the Cards!) mentioning the situation, and STATE MEDIA doing the same.

Cardinals center Rodney Hudson unexcused at minicamp, while Justin Pugh may take over at center

You think Billy Price/considering drafting a C with our first rounder doesn't indicate some sort of knowledge pre-draft?

Incredible.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Ah. New strategy. Only starting four offensive linemen. Kliff is a genius.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I hope the team realizes it needs 5 offensive linemen.

From the way it treated the draft and FA, in the wake of knowing Hudson likely wasn’t coming back, that could be up for discussion…

Kinda borg

 

[dreamcastrocks]

BS. Here's our other starting guard (also considering retirement, vs. playing for the Cards!) mentioning the situation, and STATE MEDIA doing the same.

Cardinals center Rodney Hudson unexcused at minicamp, while Justin Pugh may take over at center

You think Billy Price/considering drafting a C with our first rounder doesn't indicate some sort of knowledge pre-draft?

Incredible.

Where there's smoke, look the other way...

 

[ASUCHRIS]

It's just crazy that we're trying to convince 40% of our line to take millions to play football. Does this happen to good teams?

 

[ASUCHRIS]

LOL, coincidence, I'm sure.

Coincidences all over the place these days!

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[dreamcastrocks]

It's just crazy that we're trying to convince 40% of our line to take millions to play football. Does this happen to good teams?

It has been well documented about Pugh, but I haven't seen anything about Hudson...

 

[BritCard]

You know you can't discuss this right? It wasn't verified by Shefter or Rappaport.

Discussing it and stating it as fact over and over are not the same thing.

Its getting like a perpetual Walter post. There's 20+ pages of people repeating that Hudson is retiring and the Cards knew about it before the draft all based on a single tweet by a guy Kyler publicly called out as clueless.

Literally people calling the FO a joke for not drafting or bringing in a C based on a Chuck Harris tweet and rampant speculation.

 

[BritCard]

BS. Here's our other starting guard (also considering retirement, vs. playing for the Cards!) mentioning the situation, and STATE MEDIA doing the same.

Cardinals center Rodney Hudson unexcused at minicamp, while Justin Pugh may take over at center

You think Billy Price/considering drafting a C with our first rounder doesn't indicate some sort of knowledge pre-draft?

Incredible.

Billy Price came in because we let Garcia go and the backup is Harlow.

Pugh played C last minute because Hudson didn't show and you need 3 centers for practice.

Who says we considered drafting a C in round 1 other than the person that wrote that piece? I'm sure they considered drafting everything in round 1 but I've seen no reputable source specifically mention C.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Coincidences all over the place these days!

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Being discussed on 98.7 now - Wolf freaking out, "it's not good", if Hudson is out, you have to re-evaluate everything. Doesn't need to be a top 10 line, but they need to be good enough to allow talent to do their job.

You can continue to thrust your head in the sand, but acting like nothing is happening here is almost comical.

 

[QuebecCard]

BS. Here's our other starting guard (also considering retirement, vs. playing for the Cards!) mentioning the situation, and STATE MEDIA doing the same.

Cardinals center Rodney Hudson unexcused at minicamp, while Justin Pugh may take over at center

You think Billy Price/considering drafting a C with our first rounder doesn't indicate some sort of knowledge pre-draft?

Incredible.

We needed a backup centre, no matter what, and who in the know was saying that the Cards were considering a 'C' in round one?

 

[BritCard]

Being discussed on 98.7 now - Wolf freaking out, "it's not good", if Hudson is out, you have to re-evaluate everything. Doesn't need to be a top 10 line, but they need to be good enough to allow talent to do their job.

You can continue to thrust your head in the sand, but acting like nothing is happening here is almost comical.

They didn't wish happy birthday to him last July either so big shrug

 

[QuebecCard]

Being discussed on 98.7 now - Wolf freaking out, "it's not good", if Hudson is out, you have to re-evaluate everything. Doesn't need to be a top 10 line, but they need to be good enough to allow talent to do their job.

You can continue to thrust your head in the sand, but acting like nothing is happening here is almost comical.

There is a difference between 'nothing is happening' and YOU concluding what is occurring and scoffing at anyone who brings up your self-serving timeline and dubious interpretations.

You don't know, what you don't know... so stop acting as if you DO!

 

[ASUCHRIS]

There is a difference between 'nothing is happening' and YOU concluding what is occurring and scoffing at anyone who brings up your self-serving timeline and dubious interpretations.

I'm wondering if there is a reading comprehension issue here. Britcard continues to insist that there is absolutely nothing going on with Hudson, and trivializes it to a random tweet. That's completely inaccurate!

There is legitimate smoke around the Hudson situation, and acting like there isn't is pure cognitive dissonance. Hell, DARREN URBAN'S headline makes it clear that there could be issues:

Rodney Hudson Absent, So Justin Pugh May Be Cardinals Center​

With one veteran a question mark​

I guess Wolf is just expounding on it for the hell of it too, all is well!

 

[QuebecCard]

I'm wondering if there is a reading comprehension issue here. Britcard continues to insist that there is absolutely nothing going on with Hudson, and trivializes it to a random tweet. That's completely inaccurate!

There is legitimate smoke around the Hudson situation, and acting like there isn't is pure cognitive dissonance. Hell, DARREN URBAN'S headline makes it clear that there could be issues:

Rodney Hudson Absent, So Justin Pugh May Be Cardinals Center​

With one veteran a question mark​

I guess Wolf is just expounding on it for the hell of it too, all is well!

It's Wolf's JOB to speculate on the Cards... DUH!

And, as any observer knows, Darren the employee is not in the breaking news business.

On day one of camp, we'll know what the scoop is, which will be at the same time as Wolf and Darren.

 

[Chopper0080]

We needed a backup centre, no matter what, and who in the know was saying that the Cards were considering a 'C' in round one?

I think Gambo noted that the Cardinals were interested in Linderbaum in round 1. I believe Jeremiah also stated that the Cardinals were interested in Linderbaum. That isnt a report that the Cardinals were going to draft Linderbaum because Hudson was going to retire, but it is a legitimate report that they were in consideration of a C because Hudson is only under contract for this season and next.

Similarly, it is known that teams reach out to their players in the offseason to get a gauge on where they are at, how they are feeling, and if they have any concerns. This is especially true with players coming off injuries, have had off-season surgery, and veterans. That the Cardinals were obviously ready to answer questions when Hudson was absent indicates they probably had info from Hudson being absent for voluntary workouts in April.

So, if we look at reasons a veteran player is absent from these programs it is generally...

1-new contract
2-retirement
3-doesn't want to do it

1 doesn't fit because Hudson got a new contract when he was traded to AZ.

3 doesn't really fit because someone just not going to report isn't something to "work through" it is just an agreement between a vet and a team that the player will be absent and the team fining that player for his absence.

2, considering retirement is "something to work through" and a general reason for a over 30 vet player to be absent. That he hasn't filed retirement papers means the decision hasn't been made yet and Hudson obviously needs more time to make that decision.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Billy Price came in because we let Garcia go and the backup is Harlow.

Pugh played C last minute because Hudson didn't show and you need 3 centers for practice.

Who says we considered drafting a C in round 1 other than the person that wrote that piece? I'm sure they considered drafting everything in round 1 but I've seen no reputable source specifically mention C.

You are kidding right? Or maybe you are trolling.

How is azcardinals.com not a reputable source? You don't think the Cards vet every article before it is posted?

 

[Chopper0080]

and I don't believe anyone on here believes Hudson is considering retirement because Chuck Harris said it, Chuck is saying it because that reason fits the situation.

A picture that omits the best Cardinals offensive lineman while including the other four starters also generates a reasonable reaction that the best player is omitted because that player may not be on the team.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I think Gambo noted that the Cardinals were interested in Linderbaum in round 1. I believe Jeremiah also stated that the Cardinals were interested in Linderbaum. That isnt a report that the Cardinals were going to draft Linderbaum because Hudson was going to retire, but it is a legitimate report that they were in consideration of a C because Hudson is only under contract for this season and next.

Similarly, it is known that teams reach out to their players in the offseason to get a gauge on where they are at, how they are feeling, and if they have any concerns. This is especially true with players coming off injuries, have had off-season surgery, and veterans. That the Cardinals were obviously ready to answer questions when Hudson was absent indicates they probably had info from Hudson being absent for voluntary workouts in April.

So, if we look at reasons a veteran player is absent from these programs it is generally...

1-new contract
2-retirement
3-doesn't want to do it

1 doesn't fit because Hudson got a new contract when he was traded to AZ.

3 doesn't really fit because someone just not going to report isn't something to "work through" it is just an agreement between a vet and a team that the player will be absent and the team fining that player for his absence.

2, considering retirement is "something to work through" and a general reason for a over 30 vet player to be absent. That he hasn't filed retirement papers means the decision hasn't been made yet and Hudson obviously needs more time to make that decision.

Not sure why you are going through the trouble...

 

[Chopper0080]

Also, and quite frankly, no one is going to put their name on a report like this until the player declares it. It isn't because they don't know it is a possibility, it is because they don't want their associated with a report when the player is the only one who is going to make that determination.

As a reporter, Urban can't say Pugh is practicing at C because Hudson might retire because then he is reporting something. however, Urban can write articles about Pugh trying to play C to extend his career and also, Hudson being absent. Pugh being Hudson's good friend while also taking snaps at the position his friend plays while the player is absent.