Roethlisberger's Accuser Says She Told Him 'No'

Southpaw

Provocateur aka Wallyburger
Supporting Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2003
Posts
39,818
Reaction score
3,410
Location
The urban swamp
If this is true,.....

Roethlisberger's Accuser Says She Told Him 'No'


Apr 16, 3:31 AM (ET)

By KATE BRUMBACK

MILLEDGEVILLE, Ga. (AP) -The 20-year-old college student who accused Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault told police she tried to get away from the Pittsburgh Steelers star, and one of her friends said she talked to one of the quarterback's bodyguards out of concern for the intoxicated woman.

The police interviews were among hundreds of pages of the case file made public Thursday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. Earlier this week, prosecutors said no charges would be filed against Roethlisberger, who has denied the accusations through his attorney.

In a statement to police on March 5, the young woman said Roethlisberger encouraged her, and her friends, to take numerous shots of alcohol. Then one of his bodyguards escorted her into a hallway at the Capital City nightclub, sat her on a stool and left. She said Roethlisberger walked down the hallway and exposed himself.

"I told him it wasn't ok, no, we don't need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave," she said. "I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom."

According to her statement, Roethlisberger then followed her into the bathroom and shut the door.

"I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me," she wrote. "He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything."

Two of her friends said they saw a bodyguard lead her into the hallway and then saw Roethlisberger follow. They said they couldn't see their friend but knew she was drunk and were worried about her.

Ann Marie Lubatti told police she approached one of Roethlisberger's two bodyguards and said, "This isn't right. My friend is back there with Ben. She needs to come back right now."

She said the bodyguard wouldn't look her in the eye and said he didn't know what she was talking about. The GBI later identified that bodyguard as Ed Joyner, and the GBI also determined that the man who led Roethlisberger's accuser down the hallway was Anthony Barravecchio. Joyner is a Pennsylvania trooper and Barravecchio is an officer on the force in the Pittsburgh suburb of Coraopolis.

Attorney Michael Santicola, who represents Barravecchio but said Joyner also is a longtime friend, confirmed on March 10 that the two officers were present, but not in an official capacity. He said the two men are friends with Roethlisberger and did not witness any criminal activity or inappropriate behavior. He said the officers "have no memory" of meeting his accuser.

Lt. Myra A. Taylor, a spokeswoman for Pennsylvania State Police, said Thursday night the agency is getting a copy of the investigative report from Georgia authorities. "We will thoroughly review the report and determine if there is a violation of Department regulations on the part of Trooper Edward Joyner," she said.

Ocmulgee Circuit District Attorney Fred Bright said Monday the woman's accusations could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt and that the woman had asked him not to pursue the case.

Roethlisberger also is being sued in civil court by a former Nevada hotel employee for an alleged sexual assault in 2008. No criminal charges were filed in that case.

According to the investigators' summary of events, Roethlisberger friend Brad Aurila had a conversation with the quarterback when they returned to his house that night and asked him why police showed up at the nightclub. In an interview with police, Aurila said Roethlisberger told him nothing had happened and that he "was in the back with a girl and they were 'messing around."' Aurila said he "took 'messing around' to mean 'kissing, whatever."'

In her first statement to police hours after the incident, the woman said she and her friends first saw Roethlisberger at Velvet Elvis.

"He then met us at the Brick and called us a 'tease.' Eventually, we saw him at the Capital City and saw him there. We said 'hey' and he started talking to (redacted) (nothing in particular) and his bodyguard took him back to the room w/ bathroom," she wrote. "I said, 'I don't know if this is a good idea' and he said, 'It's OK.' He had sex with me and meanwhile his bodyguards told my friends they couldn't pass them to get to me."

In a second statement on March 5, the woman went into more detail about the encounters with Roethlisberger, saying that he made "crude, sexual remarks" when the two groups encountered each other at the second bar, before they went to Capital City.

There, Roethlisberger was surrounded by women, according to statements made by the accuser's friends.

"At the back of Capital City, the room was blocked off for him and females only," Nicole Biancofiore wrote in a statement to police.

After the accuser emerged from the bar and told Biancofiore and Lubatti about the encounter, the women left.

"I walked up to the first cop car we saw and told them what happened," Lubatti said in a statement.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is reviewing the matter and Steelers president Art Rooney II said Thursday that the league and team probably won't settle on any punishment until after next week's draft.

"When we get to the point where we have agreed with the commissioner on what that action will be, that's when it will be imposed," Rooney said. "After imposing an appropriate level of discipline and outlining the steps we feel will be necessary to be successful as a player and a person, we intend to allow Ben the opportunity to prove to us he is the teammate and citizen we all believe he is capable of being."

Rooney said the team is prepared to discipline Roethlisberger now, but will wait for the league's decision. Roethlisberger told him that he will accept the punishment, Rooney said.

Sparked partly by the Roethlisberger incident, Goodell sent a memo last week to NFL owners, executives and head coaches emphasizing the importance of the league's personal conduct policy. According to the memo, which was first reported by the New York Times, the absence of criminal charges is not enough to excuse poor behavior.

"Unfortunately, in recent weeks there have been several negative incidents," the memo stated. "These incidents include subjects that we have previously identified as particularly troublesome, such as alcohol-related offenses, allegations of violence against women, and weapons offenses. ... The policy makes clear that NFL and club personnel must do more than simply avoid criminal behavior. We must conduct ourselves in a way that is responsible, that promotes the values upon which the league is based, and is lawful."

The Roethlisberger case has infuriated the Steelers.

"I have made it clear to Ben that his conduct in this incident did not live up to our standards," Rooney said. "We have made it very clear to Ben that there will be consequence for his actions, and Ben has indicated to us he is willing to accept those consequences."

---

AP Sports Writer Alan Robinson in Pittsburgh contributed to this report.
 
Last edited:

Reddog

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Jan 8, 2003
Posts
2,807
Reaction score
323
Location
Scottsdale
I had heard that the girls father had said they would not pursue a civil case. If that was to protect her reputation, now that all this detail is out I hope he changes his mind. He probably remembers how the media and everyone in the Tahoe case vilified the victim as a whack job.

What a loser. I met Ryan Leaf at a chairity event back before his fall from grace and he was so obviosly an ass from every vantage that given Ben's continued behavior, from his response to the motorcycle incident to the abuse accusations I have to believe this is not new and those around him have known what an inbred he is from day one.
 

conraddobler

I want my 2$
Joined
Sep 1, 2002
Posts
20,052
Reaction score
237
"
I have made it clear to Ben that his conduct in this incident did not live up to our standards," Rooney said. "We have made it very clear to Ben that there will be consequence for his actions, and Ben has indicated to us he is willing to accept those consequences."

Pffft, I'll wait and see what those, "consequences" are but if he really did this as it's described you don't need to talk to him and you don't act like an upset father, you drop someone completely IMO, we'll see.
 
OP
OP
Southpaw

Southpaw

Provocateur aka Wallyburger
Supporting Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2003
Posts
39,818
Reaction score
3,410
Location
The urban swamp
Wow.

Doesn't Get It

Witness Statements From Roethlisberger Incident Paint An Ugly Picture
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Posted By Chris Littmann 5:00 PM

Steelers president Art Rooney addressed the media on Thursday afternoon and talked about how he expected NFL commish Roger Goodell to take several weeks to review accusations leveled at Ben Roethlisberger. Then, roughly an hour after Rooney finished his session with the media, handwritten police statements detailing the alleged incident hit the web courtesy of The Smoking Gun. Will the lurid details in the statement change exactly how soon Goodell rules on the issue? Due to their graphic nature, I'll go ahead and call out NSFW/earmuffs right off the bat. Details after the jump.

Right off the bat, we get an incredibly graphic and disturbing description from the alleged victim, whose name is redacted from the report.

"[Roethlisberger]'s bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me. He scored me into a side door/hallway and sat me on a stool. He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants. I told him it wasn't ok, no we don't need to do this and I proceded to get up and try to leave. I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom. He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him. I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me. He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything. I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends. We left Capital and went to the first police car we saw."

Also unsettling is the fact that a friend of the alleged victim, Nicole Biancoriore, made multiple attempts to get her friend out of the situation, including talking with the bar's owner, and she was blown off. Here's part of her statement:

I attempted to get [redacted] out of the room by speaking with the owner of Capital City, Rocky. I told Rocky that [redacted] was too drunk to be back there and he told me not to worry because Ben would not do anything to ruin his reputation.

Oh, that's reassuring. NFL players never make decisions in bars that might ruin their reputation. Sounds like an owner of a bar in a small town that was pretty fired up to have a celebrity in town and didn't want to ruin the fun of such an event.

Also of note: the alleged victim was wearing a name tag that said "DTF" -- meaning "Down To F---" -- as an inside joke with her girlfriends. (Details here.) Roethlisberger allegedly said "All my *******, take some shots," which upset one of the alleged victim's friends enough to leave the VIP area.

Documents obtained by The Smoking Gun also bring back a few things that we already knew after the district attorney's comments from earlier this week. No samples were ever taken from Roethlisberger because the evidence taken from the victim was such a small amount that there wouldn't be enough to draw a match. It also discusses the fact that on March 17, a lawyer representing the victim asked that the case just be dropped because of the "criminal trial would be a very intrusive personal experience."

In light of these details, I can't imagine Goodell sits by for weeks as Rooney suggested today. Goodell has never needed charges to drop the hammer on someone in the past, so everyone will be watching how he reacts to this latest pile of information.
 

Renz

An Army of One
Joined
May 10, 2003
Posts
13,078
Reaction score
2
Location
lat: 35.231 lon: -111.550
"

Pffft, I'll wait and see what those, "consequences" are but if he really did this as it's described you don't need to talk to him and you don't act like an upset father, you drop someone completely IMO, we'll see.

Yeah, he'll probably get 'suspended' from the first two preseason games.
 

thirty-two

boglehead
Supporting Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2003
Posts
26,978
Reaction score
3,955
If the bodyguard allegations are true, then wow. His two friends/bodyguards are cops back in their home town.
 

jf-08

chohan
Administrator
Super Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
27,430
Reaction score
22,918
Location
Eye in the Sky
Ben was at one bar and the girls saw him. Then they happen to run into him at another bar. They agree to drink with him and flirt with him. She is "DTF". Sure Ben is intrigued. He's a guy. Then she apparently gets too drunk and falls.

Then, there is not enough physical evidence from her, including DNA, to even tell if she has been assaulted.

Bad judgment, IMO, yes. Indecent exposure, possibly. But rape, IMO, no.
 

az jam

ASFN Icon
Joined
Mar 6, 2004
Posts
12,986
Reaction score
5,205
Location
Scottsdale, AZ
Rothlisberg is sick and is a thug. He should be facing a jail term not just suspension.
 
OP
OP
Southpaw

Southpaw

Provocateur aka Wallyburger
Supporting Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2003
Posts
39,818
Reaction score
3,410
Location
The urban swamp
Rothlisberg is sick and is a thug. He should be facing a jail term not just suspension.

and the 2 buddy thugs aiding and abetting right there with him. No means no. Of course the word "alleged" needs to be used.
 

Stout

Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Joined
Dec 30, 2002
Posts
39,660
Reaction score
23,659
Location
Pittsburgh, PA--Enemy territory!
Ben was at one bar and the girls saw him. Then they happen to run into him at another bar. They agree to drink with him and flirt with him. She is "DTF". Sure Ben is intrigued. He's a guy. Then she apparently gets too drunk and falls.

Then, there is not enough physical evidence from her, including DNA, to even tell if she has been assaulted.

Bad judgment, IMO, yes. Indecent exposure, possibly. But rape, IMO, no.

Incorrect. More than enough physical evidence that she was assaulted, but not enough evidence, including DNA evidence to prove it was definitely him. The fact that he was the guy she was with, and all of this other testimony, while circumstantial, is enough for me. He's simply a scumbag that got off. Hopefully he'll get suspended and traded.
 

Reddog

ASFN Lifer
Joined
Jan 8, 2003
Posts
2,807
Reaction score
323
Location
Scottsdale
What was the verbal deal he got into with Wiz in the media after he left Pittsburgh? What a contrast Warner must have been for him after dealing with Rothenperve.
 

jf-08

chohan
Administrator
Super Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
27,430
Reaction score
22,918
Location
Eye in the Sky
I think he is a dirtbag, don't get me wrong, but something just doesn't sit right with me on this one.
 

SoCal Cardfan

ASFN Addict
Joined
Apr 11, 2004
Posts
6,056
Reaction score
1,296
How fricking hard is it to find WILLING females when you're a mega-rich celebrity/athlete etc..???

He's a douche imo.
 
Joined
Nov 15, 2002
Posts
13,297
Reaction score
1,171
Location
SE Valley
More Roethlisberger Sleaze

Where there's smoke...

APRIL 16--While probing a Georgia college student's claim that she was sexually assaulted last month by Ben Roethlisberger, investigators were told of previous incidents during which the NFL star allegedly pulled down his pants in front of a young woman and forcefully put his hand up her skirt, The Smoking Gun has learned.
But when contacted by a Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) agent, the woman, after consulting with her parents, declined to be interviewed because she was "very worried about her name getting out to the media and on the Internet."
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0416101ben1.html#theLink


IMO, Roethlisberger is fortunate that some irate father hasn't sought justice on his own...
 
Joined
Nov 15, 2002
Posts
13,297
Reaction score
1,171
Location
SE Valley
Still could. To much heat right now.
You've got a point. But I was referring to past incidents that never went public. There is now evidence of three incidents of Roethlisberger forcing himself upon young women. I would bet there are more...

Edit: Come to think of it, there was an additonal report of an incident in a bar in Pittsburgh. But as I recall, it didn't go as far as these others.
 
Last edited:
OP
OP
Southpaw

Southpaw

Provocateur aka Wallyburger
Supporting Member
Joined
Nov 17, 2003
Posts
39,818
Reaction score
3,410
Location
The urban swamp
Too bad, if Ben is still there, that the game with the Falcons, this year, is in Pittsburgh. Roger Goodell needs to flip this guy overboard. I am waiting for the sex addiction plea from Ben's handlers to come spitting out.
 
Joined
Nov 15, 2002
Posts
13,297
Reaction score
1,171
Location
SE Valley
Roger Goodell needs to flip this guy overboard. I am waiting for the sex addiction plea from Ben's handlers to come spitting out.
At least Tiger found women that were willing...

Of course, that's got to be a much harder task for Roethlisberger!
 

jf-08

chohan
Administrator
Super Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
27,430
Reaction score
22,918
Location
Eye in the Sky
Yes Ben is a scumbag.

But these women, I just don't know.

This latest one in the SmGun report, had to take him to his bedroom when he was drunk? C'mon. Then she returns to a party at his house later? And finds herself in his bedroom? If I were a woman and were assaulted, the last place on earth I would ever be found would be in my attackers bedroom again.
 

Shane

Comin for you!
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
68,667
Reaction score
37,847
Location
Las Vegas
Come on Joel. The woman in Georgia had injuries consistent with rape. Her family isn't seeking a civil suit. She had friends there who were trying to get to her and help her but were held back by Ben's LE buddies who were acting as body guards? The security tapes magically vanished as well.

What more do you really need. Do you think she did this for popularity?
 
Joined
Nov 15, 2002
Posts
13,297
Reaction score
1,171
Location
SE Valley
Yes Ben is a scumbag.

But these women, I just don't know.

This latest one in the SmGun report, had to take him to his bedroom when he was drunk? C'mon. Then she returns to a party at his house later? And finds herself in his bedroom? If I were a woman and were assaulted, the last place on earth I would ever be found would be in my attackers bedroom again.
So the women he associates with aren't the smartest, or most innocent types. That's the old and tired defense of it not being a rape because the woman was a known ****. It doesn't matter what the woman's prior actions are the moment it passes the point of being consensual activity.
 

jf-08

chohan
Administrator
Super Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
27,430
Reaction score
22,918
Location
Eye in the Sky
If I was a woman and raped, or if my wife or daughter were, I would try to get him locked up for life. I wouldn't care about my name getting in the public.
 

Shane

Comin for you!
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
68,667
Reaction score
37,847
Location
Las Vegas
If I was a woman and raped, or if my wife or daughter were, I would try to get him locked up for life. I wouldn't care about my name getting in the public.

She tried. DA while admittedly thinks something happened doesnt think he could convince a jury BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
 

dreamcastrocks

Chopped Liver Moderator
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
Aug 19, 2005
Posts
46,238
Reaction score
11,830
So the women he associates with aren't the smartest, or most innocent types. That's the old and tired defense of it not being a rape because the woman was a known ****. It doesn't matter what the woman's prior actions are the moment it passes the point of being consensual activity.

Aren't the smartest? That's nice to be nice. Would you go to a murderer's house if you knew he was a murderer?
 

jf-08

chohan
Administrator
Super Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
27,430
Reaction score
22,918
Location
Eye in the Sky
There is a difference of 1.) saying no and 2.)feeling regretful after the fact. If I were attacked, I would go the end of the earth for justice. So, maybe I just don't understand why these women are not coming after him criminally.
 
Top