Roethlisberger's Accuser Says She Told Him 'No'

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Aren't the smartest? That's nice to be nice. Would you go to a murderer's house if you knew he was a murderer?

Young women especially young drunk women don't have good judgment. Doesn't give anyone a right to rape them.

Are you the guy that thinks if a girl goes to a bedroom with you the deal is sealed and she has no right to say no?
 

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There is a difference of 1.) saying no and 2.)feeling regretful after the fact. If I were attacked, I would go the end of the earth for justice. So, maybe I just don't understand why these women are not coming after him criminally.

What are you talking about? The woman in Georgia DID GO after him criminally. She isnt going after him civilly.
 

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No means no. If she said no, and he went ahead anyway, he raped her. I don't see how there is any gray area there.
 

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There is a difference of 1.) saying no and 2.)feeling regretful after the fact. If I were attacked, I would go the end of the earth for justice. So, maybe I just don't understand why these women are not coming after him criminally.

Also if you consent and feel regretful later you dont get the injuries consistent with rape.
 

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forcefully put his hand up her skirt

Well, that brings back bad memories of one of our own quarterbacks. :(
 

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I think a bunch of these girls are star struck. Then they end up doing something with said "star". Afterward, they talk to a friend or so and they are scolded "what the hell are you thinking? Don't you know he is a sexual predator?" Then all of a sudden it turns to "Oh yeah, I think he attacked me too".

It just doesn't add up to me.

If I were attacked, again, I would be out for retribution and justice.
 

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What are you talking about? The woman in Georgia DID GO after him criminally. She isnt going after him civilly.


Maybe I read it wrong. I thought she didn't want criminal charges filed.
 

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Young women especially young drunk women don't have good judgment. Doesn't give anyone a right to rape them.

Are you the guy that thinks if a girl goes to a bedroom with you the deal is sealed and she has no right to say no?

Not at all.

I don't do drugs. I don't put myself in situations where I am around drugs.

AFAIC at the moment, everything is heresy. Ben hasn't told his side of the story. I don't believe we have the whole story here.
 

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I think he is a dirtbag, don't get me wrong, but something just doesn't sit right with me on this one.

This is an interesting side note...How much to Big Ben offer this guy to edit his report? Enough to retire maybe?

Ga. Officer Who Took Roethlisberger Report Resigns
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Apr 16, 11:29 AM (ET)

By KATE BRUMBACK

[FONT=verdana,sans-serif]ATLANTA (AP) -A Georgia officer who took the first report from the woman who accused Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault has resigned.
Milledgeville police Chief Woodrow Blue on Friday confirmed that Sgt. Jerry Blash resigned Wednesday. That's one day before the Georgia Bureau of Investigation made public all documents related to its investigation of a 20-year-old woman's claim that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her.
Prosecutors say they're not charging Roethlisberger. Blash is the only officer who interviewed the quarterback. He acknowledged in an interview with investigators that he made some derogatory comments about the alleged victim to other officers. Multiple calls to a number listed for Blash rang unanswered.
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I think a bunch of these girls are star struck. Then they end up doing something with said "star". Afterward, they talk to a friend or so and they are scolded "what the hell are you thinking? Don't you know he is a sexual predator?" Then all of a sudden it turns to "Oh yeah, I think he attacked me too".

It just doesn't add up to me.

If I were attacked, again, I would be out for retribution and justice.

Umm then why aren't we getting stories like these on a weekly basis from multiple NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB and the plethora of movie stars etc.. etc.. How come three different women just single out Ben? How come he is the one guy that girls regret what they do with him?

Two girls have seeked some sort of retribution and justice.
 

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This is an interesting side note...How much to Big Ben offer this guy to edit his report? Enough to retire maybe?

Ga. Officer Who Took Roethlisberger Report Resigns
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Apr 16, 11:29 AM (ET)

By KATE BRUMBACK

[FONT=verdana,sans-serif]ATLANTA (AP) -A Georgia officer who took the first report from the woman who accused Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault has resigned.
Milledgeville police Chief Woodrow Blue on Friday confirmed that Sgt. Jerry Blash resigned Wednesday. That's one day before the Georgia Bureau of Investigation made public all documents related to its investigation of a 20-year-old woman's claim that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her.
Prosecutors say they're not charging Roethlisberger. Blash is the only officer who interviewed the quarterback. He acknowledged in an interview with investigators that he made some derogatory comments about the alleged victim to other officers. Multiple calls to a number listed for Blash rang unanswered.
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Maybe he resigns because he thinks that Ben did it and is getting away with it????
 

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What are you talking about? The woman in Georgia DID GO after him criminally. She isnt going after him civilly.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0415101roethlisberger1.html?link=rssfeed

In a March 17 letter to prosecutor Fred Bright, a lawyer for the woman asked that the rape probe be dropped. "What is obvious in looking forward is that a criminal trial would be a very intrusive personal experience for a complainant in this situation, given the extraordinary media attention that would be inevitable," wrote attorney David Walbert. "The media coverage to date, and the efforts of the media to access our client, have been unnerving, to say the least."
 

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Maybe I read it wrong. I thought she didn't want criminal charges filed.

You absolutely read it wrong. She filed a criminal complaint. The DA had a huge news conference stating the details and that while he think something happened he didnt believe he could get the reasonable doubt required for a 12 man jury. Thus he wasnt prosecuting.
 

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Umm then why aren't we getting stories like these on a weekly basis from multiple NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB and the plethora of movie stars etc.. etc.. How come three different women just single out Ben? How come he is the one guy that girls regret what they do with him?

Two girls have seeked some sort of retribution and justice.

I think we will more and more...
 
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If I was a woman and raped, or if my wife or daughter were, I would try to get him locked up for life. I wouldn't care about my name getting in the public.

Relatives and friends want revenge, while the victim usually wants to crawl into a shell and wait for it to go away. Rape is reprehensible and totally destructive to the victim. Society doesn't seem to deal with the crime of rape very well.
 

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I think we will more and more...

Why now do you think we will more and more? In the last 30 years of rich athletes out prowling on women how many have 3 similar accusations like Bens? The walks like a duck and talks like a duck fits very well here.
 

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Why now do you think we will more and more? In the last 30 years of rich athletes out prowling on women how many have 3 similar accusations like Bens? The walks like a duck and talks like a duck fits very well here.
I....agree.
 

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Why now do you think we will more and more? In the last 30 years of rich athletes out prowling on women how many have 3 similar accusations like Bens? The walks like a duck and talks like a duck fits very well here.

Gut feeling.

The situations will be different, but we will see these types of accusations more and more.
 

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Relatives and friends want revenge, while the victim usually wants to crawl into a shell and wait for it to go away. Rape is reprehensible and totally destructive to the victim. Society doesn't seem to deal with the crime of rape very well.


Good points.
 

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After reading the documents my guess is that he's a predator. Who just happens to be an NFL quarterback. I'll bet there are a whole lot of women out there saying to each other, "Remember when he did the same thing to So-and-So?"
 
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After reading the documents my guess is that he's a predator. Who just happens to be an NFL quarterback. I'll bet there are a whole lot of women out there saying to each other, "Remember when he did the same thing to So-and-So?"
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Has everyone here not dealt with these kinds of girls before? I honestly don't buy her story. Now, Ben should not have put himself in that position at all, but these are 19-20 year old sorority girls causing drama at a bar where they shouldn't be in the first place.
 
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