Rosen will report to off-season workout

[Harry]

This is just not true.

Did you know the As guaranteed Murray a roster spot on the major league roster? That doesnt guarantee that he wouldnt get designated for assignment later, but it meant he would be on the opening day roster. This was an unprecedented move, the As had to clear this with MLB to give that guarantee.

If Kyler Murray goes back to baseball it will because he failed miserably. NFL QBs on average make so much more than most MLB players.

Sam Bradford signed for $20 million last year. That's basically starting QB money right now.

Several younger guys have retired lately mostly due to concussion issues. None of them had a lucrative offer waiting to play another sport. Let’s see how Murray feels after he takes a few beatings assuming he’s the Cards’ choice.

 

[Gandhi]

Why wouldn't your starting QB for the season not report to camp? Wouldn't make much sense.

It's not camp, and Tom Brady skipped the start of the Patriots' offseason program last season, and will reportedly do it again this year. Different context, but the point is that a starting quarterback didn't show up (and I would argue it didn't cost their team much).

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Just another brilliant smokescreen by Keim!

I knew when Josh reported to camp that we were picking Murray.

 

[dscher]

I knew when Josh reported to camp that we were picking Murray.

It's all coming together!

 

[RugbyMuffin]

That’s it Rosen is our guy.

That’s it Murray is our guy.

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[PJ1]

It's not camp, and Tom Brady skipped the start of the Patriots' offseason program last season, and will reportedly do it again this year. Different context, but the point is that a starting quarterback didn't show up (and I would argue it didn't cost their team much).

Just a little bit different circumstance.

 

[azsouthendzone]

Bring on Bosa

 

[azsouthendzone]

He left A&M when he did not like the situation and then left the A's. That is my biggest concern with him and you cannot deny or hide this behavior

Troy Aikman left Oklahoma for UCLA. The list goes on and on.

 

[Vacard]

Wilson was never going to The Show. Murray was a year or two away from being called up.

Wilson was one bench away to go into baseball when he bailed on NC St, you kidding me?

 

[TJ]

Wilson was one bench away to go into baseball when he bailed on NC St, you kidding me?

Did you understand my post? Wilson wasn’t that great of a baseball player. Murray is awesome at baseball. There were no guarantees that Wilson was going to be in the big leagues imminently

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

Did you understand my post? Wilson wasn’t that great of a baseball player. Murray is awesome at baseball. There were no guarantees that Wilson was going to be in the big leagues imminently

Bo Jackson is the ultimate lesson of why you don’t play football if you are truly an elite baseball player. Murray has All Star potential in baseball. Look at how much money the Upton brothers have made. The Royals asked Bo Jackson not to play football. He did and it cost him a fortune.

 

[Gandhi]

Just a little bit different circumstance.

Yes, like I wrote. However, your claim didn’t involve anything about the circumstances. Only the idea that a franchise quarterback would always report.

 

[PJ1]

Yes, like I wrote. However, your claim didn’t involve anything about the circumstances. Only the idea that a franchise quarterback would always report.

No, I said Josh Rosen would report as that is who we were discussing.

 

[Solar7]

Lol Russell Wilson Bailed on NC St when Glennon showed up and fled to Wisconsin. He also had a promising baseball career. Y’all need to look st historical examples.

And he was a third round pick.

Maybe also worth a "historical example" note.

 

[Vacard]

And he was a third round pick.

Maybe also worth a "historical example" note.

Doesn’t matter there are similarities which was the point

 

[Solar7]

Doesn’t matter there are similarities which was the point

Yes, it does matter, it's the opportunity cost. The Seahawks didn't have to pass up another elite player or throw away 1/3 of their draft picks from the year prior.

Very little risk on taking Wilson there. It's an enormous, intense risk to put all of your cards on a guy with all of these question marks.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Josh Rosen was the first guy to show up at the Cardinals Facility this morning for organized workouts.

 

[Shane]

Josh Rosen was the first guy to show up at the Cardinals Facility this morning.

Yup like I said in other thread doesn’t sound like a guy that’s in a hurry to leave... That’s for damn sure.

 

[Buckeye Cardinal]

Smells like Bosa.

 

[TJ]

Josh Rosen was the first guy to show up at the Cardinals Facility this morning for organized workouts.

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[Vacard]

Yes, it does matter, it's the opportunity cost. The Seahawks didn't have to pass up another elite player or throw away 1/3 of their draft picks from the year prior.

Very little risk on taking Wilson there. It's an enormous, intense risk to put all of your cards on a guy with all of these question marks.

It doesn’t matter because that wasn’t the crux of his argument. It was Murray’s desire to play football when he bailed to another school and I brought up a similar case in Wilson. You are out here moving goal posts talking about when he was drafted. So it DOESNT matter in this.

Btw The qb is the most important player on the field. That “elite” player passed up (who didn’t play a down in the NFL) could have his career derailed by injuries (Bosa) or become completely unmotivated to be the best (Williams). Spare me the elite argument when they haven’t shown anything in the big leagues. The Seahawks did gamble in that player passed up could’ve been a good player.

 

[Solar7]

It doesn’t matter because that wasn’t the crux of his argument. It was Murray’s desire to play football when he bailed to another school and I brought up a similar case in Wilson. You are out here moving goal posts talking about when he was drafted. So it DOESNT matter in this.

Btw The qb is the most important player on the field. That “elite” player passed up (who didn’t play a down in the NFL) could have his career derailed by injuries (Bosa) or become completely unmotivated to be the best (Williams). Spare me the elite argument when they haven’t shown anything in the big leagues. The Seahawks did gamble in that player passed up could’ve been a good player.

It matters in the sense that we're having a discussion about drafting the guy. You can't just handwave and say "doesn't matter" when there's a ton of context you're leaving out.

I'm aware the QB is the most important player on the field. But even if you want to ignore the first overall pick for "reasons," we're still admitting that a first, third, and fifth round pick were wasted last year. In a case where I see Murray being a middling player at best, that's a hard pass for me.

 

[BleedRed]

Trade down!

 

[Vacard]

It matters in the sense that we're having a discussion about drafting the guy. You can't just handwave and say "doesn't matter" when there's a ton of context you're leaving out.

I'm aware the QB is the most important player on the field. But even if you want to ignore the first overall pick for "reasons," we're still admitting that a first, third, and fifth round pick were wasted last year. In a case where I see Murray being a middling player at best, that's a hard pass for me.

It doesnt matter because as i said, the CRUX of the argument was Murray's desire. Then you come up with this draft position which moves goal posts which shows your anti-Murray stance which Im trying hard to give a damn but I dont. I dont care about your stance, the post was for that poster who said something about Murray's desire and I countered, plain and simple.

 

[BigRedRage]

Lets argue about Murray in the Rosen thread