Rosen will report to off-season workout

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It doesnt matter because as i said, the CRUX of the argument was Murray's desire. Then you come up with this draft position which moves goal posts which shows your anti-Murray stance which Im trying hard to give a damn but I dont. I dont care about your stance, the post was for that poster who said something about Murray's desire and I countered, plain and simple.
Chill. We're just talking football.

The point is, taking a risk on someone with questionable desire is totally fine later in the draft. Murray's desire seems questionable and it's one of many reasons why we shouldn't take him here.
 

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Chill. We're just talking football.

The point is, taking a risk on someone with questionable desire is totally fine later in the draft. Murray's desire seems questionable and it's one of many reasons why we shouldn't take him here.

Without a doubt... the Murray guys have their heads so far up his arse to see anything else. Lol

When you have guys like PA saying things like “I see Murray in the same realm as Mahomes yes Mahomes IS A LITTLE BIGGER” I mean WTF....

A little????? WOW

You know you’ve gone full man love and can’t see the forest through the trees when you’re making blatantly false statements like that. Then you expect everyone else to buy in on the load of crap your selling. And that’s just one example.
 

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If this is all smoke and Rosen stays, I will have to say that he has tremendous maturity. Most QB’s coming off of their rookie year would be furious and demand a trade. I wouldn’t blame Rosen for having his agent reach out to New England
 

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Without a doubt... the Murray guys have their heads so far up his arse to see anything else. Lol

When you have guys like PA saying things like “I see Murray in the same realm as Mahomes yes Mahomes IS A LITTLE BIGGER” I mean WTF....

A little????? WOW

You know you’ve gone full man love and can’t see the forest through the trees when you’re making blatantly false statements like that. Then you expect everyone else to buy in on the load of crap your selling. And that’s just one example.
Just like buying the "questionable desire" that some people pull up out of nowhere.. at the end of the day...it's all just opinions. Just like my question marks with Rosen. So maybe we should just have fun with it all. If not, that's cool too. I do agree though....its just freaking football.
 

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Just like buying the "questionable desire" that some people pull up out of nowhere.. at the end of the day...it's all just opinions. Just like my question marks with Rosen. So maybe we should just have fun with it all. If not, that's cool too. I do agree though....its just freaking football.
I mean, again, all just football, having fun with it, but "pulling things out of nowhere" is not mentioning very apparent opportunities and issues the guy has with a possible commitment to football.

Him leaving his first school, and having a built in safety to play another sport that is less likely to give him long term health effects while still making more money than most can dream of are very real things.
 

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If this is all smoke and Rosen stays, I will have to say that he has tremendous maturity. Most QB’s coming off of their rookie year would be furious and demand a trade. I wouldn’t blame Rosen for having his agent reach out to New England

New England?

I'd have my agent reach out to teams where I have a real opportunity to start now.
 

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If this is all smoke and Rosen stays, I will have to say that he has tremendous maturity. Most QB’s coming off of their rookie year would be furious and demand a trade. I wouldn’t blame Rosen for having his agent reach out to New England
What if this smoke screen sn't even a smoke screen it all but all made up by the media and fans letting thier imaginations run wild and the Cardinals had nothing to do with it or even cared lol
 

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Bpa is not murry - tis Bosa - regardless - it’s up to KK and what he wants - he is a QB developer and this time with Rosen is very important to both of them! Seems he runs some - maybe KK will not forget HC fundamentals - cause fellow fans we don’t have no biscuits- just loads of eye warming risk its- A fundementally sound panthers team destroyed BA system.
I never seen a franchise qb in Rosen last year - May develope into a back up - will see how much coaching matters - Wilkes was in over his head - will take this new coach time to develop- hope he and Keim makes good use of 1st pick in each round and first waiver choices.

We need to am squarely at beating the Rams - they had top picks for years - proving that the last place drafting first system - is effective - eventually
 
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