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Ruben Droughns reported to the Browns, and promptly walked out of his first conditioning session saying he wanted to renegotiate his contract. His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, his request, at least to double his current salary.

Man I wish he wasn't Quan's agent, I think Droughns has a point he's a starting RB being paid like a FB and special teamer(since that's what he did when he signed his deal) but Rosenhaus' penchant for using walkouts and holdouts just rubs me the wrong way.
 

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"Rosenhaus Sports Marketing - Where One Good Season Will Get You Paid Like a HOFer!"

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Russ Smith said:
Ruben Droughns reported to the Browns, and promptly walked out of his first conditioning session saying he wanted to renegotiate his contract. His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, his request, at least to double his current salary.

Man I wish he wasn't Quan's agent, I think Droughns has a point he's a starting RB being paid like a FB and special teamer(since that's what he did when he signed his deal) but Rosenhaus' penchant for using walkouts and holdouts just rubs me the wrong way.

Rueben who????


j/k :D ... Please they should cut the one hit wonder before training camp to make a point.
 

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What did Cleveland give for RD? Browns should start Lee Suggs and drop RD.
 
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"Rosenhaus Sports Marketing - Where One Good Season Will Get You Paid Like a HOFer!"

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It's very clear this is his preferred method of doing business. Mike McKenzie, another client, held out last year in Green Bay forcing a trade to New Orleans. Guess who's refusing to report to offseason workouts with the Saints until he gets a new deal?

In many cases it works and that's the ultimate goal for an agent I guess.
 

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Browns should start Lee Suggs and drop RD.
Suggs is a far superior RB to Droughns, IMO. I don't know why the Browns did that deal in the first place.
 

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If this doesn't make you nervous about Q - along with every other Rosenhaus client's actions - I don't know what will.

Not saying that Q will hold out - but it's looking like more and more a possibility.
 

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if anybody in this football world deserves to get more, it is anquan boldin. get the deal done. boldin the one that help get the cardinals back on the map. cardinals front office, get the deal done.
 

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if anybody in this football world deserves to get more, it is anquan boldin. get the deal done. boldin the one that help get the cardinals back on the map. cardinals front office, get the deal done.

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if anybody in this football world deserves to get more, it is anquan boldin. get the deal done. boldin the one that help get the cardinals back on the map. cardinals front office, get the deal done.

Hear, Hear!
 
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For sake of accuracy I have read that Droughns has since returned to workouts, he simply walked out to make his point that he wants a new deal.

Still, I'm not even sure he IS the starter with Suggs there.

Rosenhaus is going to end up like Holdout Howard Slusher where he has to instruct clients to say they have no agent before the draft or teams will avoid them.
 

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Russ Smith said:
It's very clear this is his preferred method of doing business. Mike McKenzie, another client, held out last year in Green Bay forcing a trade to New Orleans. Guess who's refusing to report to offseason workouts with the Saints until he gets a new deal?

In many cases it works and that's the ultimate goal for an agent I guess.

The ultimate goal of an agent is to get his client the most money he can, these players are playing for money and especially in the NFL you need to get every $ you can now because your career could end tomorrow more than in any other sport.

When you read about players dying from injuries or being maimed for life or simply popping some ligaments like that RB for New England a few years back that got hurt playing flag football at the beach then it does make more sense.

I may not like the tactic but the fact so many players are doing it means he's on to something big and as long as teams let him get away with it and make it fruitful for him he will continue doing it, even increasing it until he is stopped.

I fail to understand why teams put up with this and actually blame them totally, not the agent. Failure to play out a contract you signed is breach of contract. What the NFL should do is start suing players and ruin them financially for that and if their contracts are not written in such a manner as to allow them to do just that then it's their fault for caving to players demands in the first place.

I know that if I sign a contract that I will provide a service or a good at specified time and value and don't there will be consequences beyond just losing the revenue for that good. I will be sued silly for all the other hardship my failure to deliver caused.

The NFL really dosen't do that much about it beyond withholding pay and that isn't bad enough in most cases to stop it.

I would ask why that is because Ricky Williams and Barry Sanders got some of that treatment in that the league wanted the bonus money back but couldn't you sue them for screwing the team?

That's in effect what their failure to play did.

The retirement clause must be part of the way around it and I am sure it's highly technical, yet I am also sure it could be rewritten to address hold outs if they chose to do so.
 
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The ultimate goal of an agent is to get his client the most money he can, these players are playing for money and especially in the NFL you need to get every $ you can now because your career could end tomorrow more than in any other sport.

When you read about players dying from injuries or being maimed for life or simply popping some ligaments like that RB for New England a few years back that got hurt playing flag football at the beach then it does make more sense.

I may not like the tactic but the fact so many players are doing it means he's on to something big and as long as teams let him get away with it and make it fruitful for him he will continue doing it, even increasing it until he is stopped.

All good points, to me the key is as I said, it seems to be working for him so he'll keep doing it. At some point, NFL teams are almost going to have to collude in a sense and say screw this guy if he holds a player out on you, don't budge, nobody else make a trade for the guy, we're going to FORCE this guy to stop doing this. He'll then of course sue the NFL for collusion.

It's plain as day, he's got McKenzie holding out of workouts, Droughns did temporarily, Sean Taylor in Washington has already said he'll hold out if he can't get a better deal. We hear speculation Anquan will although we don't know yet. Rosenhaus is Dockett's agent if he has another good year we'll be in the same boat with him next year.

Either the NFL teams stop caving in, or this will be the way all agents negotiate and players won't have to fire their agent and hire Rosenhaus.
 

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Suggs is a workhorse. Can he stay healthy though is the question. I wonder if Droughns without Denver's O-line is like a fish out of water?

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The scary thing is that Rosenhaus is Darnell Dockett's agent, if DD has a productive season this year expect Rosenhaus to pull this crap again with us
 

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cardsfaithful22 said:
The scary thing is that Rosenhaus is Darnell Dockett's agent, if DD has a productive season this year expect Rosenhaus to pull this crap again with us

Why is that scary? This is the sort of thing that happens to good teams. I long for "good team" problems like guys playing above their contract. What a refreshing change that would be.
 

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cheesebeef said:
If this doesn't make you nervous about Q - along with every other Rosenhaus client's actions - I don't know what will.

Not saying that Q will hold out - but it's looking like more and more a possibility.

With 2 years to go Q would be an idiot to holdout. That being said if he holds out then let him sit as the owners need the money. His value would drop like a rock if he sat out two years or even one year. Let him join the National Hockey League and see how he enjoys that. Better yet he can become an Air Controler and go on strike. I hope he has better sense but if he does I would not give him one penny more. Shades of Kelly Stouffer and his holdout.
 

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Bottom line is that football is a business and career's are short. Additionally mega bucks are coming to the owners with the new TV contracts. Players should get their share. IMO don't rip the players for wanting a piece of the pie after all they are the product that we all want.
 

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This stupid Agent is going to get himself, and his clients blacklisted from the NFL.

His expectation of what salary players should get is un-reasonable, and un-logical. Guys like this jerk are trying to ruin the game for everyone, just to make even more money than the millions this slimball already has.

I say screw him, and his clients........even Quan if he holds out. Cause this is B.S.

Rueben Droughens deserves dittly squat. He is not a feature back, and will not be productive outside of the Broncos system.

Yeah, I know most of you are saying "If the players this jerk is representing don't play it will bad for the individual teams, and the league" My response is ask Ricky Williams how the league, and his team did with out him. The team suffered but the league (and his team) are forging ahead. Soon, if he does no return, Williams will be forgotten and new players will take his place.

So a FU to TO cause the Eagles will do fine with McNabb and Westbrook.
the same to Droughens because the Browns will do fine without him..maybe better, and as for Quan.......you can care about the money and lose the fame, and ability to be known as "The MAN" in Arizona, or you can come to your senses and take your place at the head of this team. Arizona will give Quan his money, but hiring a devil incarnate to respresent you, and threatening to hold out is not the way to do business. Plus we will be fine without him anyway. Our offensive line is not improved enough yet to give Warner the needed time to be effective, and not matter who we draft we will not have a big time back in our backfield. Next year is all about the defense. And we don't need a WR for that.

Peace and F Rosenhaus
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I wonder how much Droughns expacts. What has he proved, he can run behind Denvers Line. This guy is probaly the agent for every Denver RB, as soon as they leave get a big pay day. Haha, remember insider said he was the next Barry Sanders after 1 good game.
 

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How can any of you guys say that Boldin isn't our MVP on offense? I've read on these pages about Fitzgerald this and Fitz that, WAIT! There is no way that Fitz is as good as Boldin, BOTTOM LINE! How can anyone even make a logical argument to suggest fitz is? How many TD's did Fitzgerald have last year after AB came back? How many games did AB miss, yet caught only 2 less balls, and frankly took over the #1 receiver position on the field? yeah rosendick does have chronic nutrash on his chin:eek: , and all of us wish Q would have got Steinburg or someone else to represent him, but Q is the man, and Fitz the young man trying to learnfrom him. That said, I'm not impressed with BJ, let's trade him for a low 2/high 3 saturday, and draft a balls-out speed guy to open up our receiving lanes, [or matt jones, if he is there after 8 when our turn comes again..:cheers: :newcards: Go Cards!!!
 

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I wonder if any of Rosenhaus' clients who "under-performed" their contracts are willing to re-negotiate at a lower amount for next year? He likes to say his clients "out-performed" their contracts when they have a good year.Does it work both ways?
 

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