Rumor: Amare out for the Year??? Say it aint so

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Any doubts from anyone that's been a long time SUNS fan that this franchise is cursed now?
Actually i don't think that losing Amare will be as bad as some are claiming.
It sucks yeah, but IMO there's one guy in particular who needs to step up offensively to offset Amare....that's Nash,he's got to become more aggressive offensively. The other guy is JRich.
Problem IMO is that we'll miss HOW Amare gets his points. Even if Nash/JRich/Hill step up,Amare's pts in the paint,getting to the foul line and getting people in foul trouble is where the SUNS are gonna feel his loss the most.
Bummer.

You know I am not one for curses or anything but HOLY FRACK. Maybe the last two arenas were build on Indian burial grounds???

It's not like Amare is the only scorer on this team so we should be able to make up some scoring. It's not like Amare plays on the other end so no big loss there. However, we will miss the space and height he takes up in the lane. We will miss the easy buckets he produces.

This team is pretty damn small when Amare and Shaq are out of the line up. If other guys don't step up, the rest of the season could be very very long.
 
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sigh well great now we get to see what Lopez is made of dammit so mad right now :(. Just got back from getting a haircut feeling good and now this ugh.......
 

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This sucks, but they still have a shot at the playoffs. I'd start Lou and up Duds minutes. With Shaq, Hill, Nash, and Richardson, that should provide plenty of offense. Lou is all hustle and heart and with the team back to running, I bet he could average 10pts and 7brds a game playing about 25min. Heck the kids at least earned the opportunity.

The guy who needs to step it up the most IMO is Richardson. I had higher expectations after the trade, but now with the new (old) style back perhaps he will shine.

Wish we had those two Clippers games back to work on the adjustment cuz after tonight, the schedule looks nasty.

Heal quick Amare, heal quick!
 

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If we do make the playoffs will amare be ready for the first round or not? i'm guessing probally not....
 

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If we do make the playoffs will amare be ready for the first round or not? i'm guessing probally not....

Well 8 weeks is what's left in the season so if the timeline is correct, technically he would be back for the first round. Even if he's able to return, he will need some time to tune up unless he's able to stay in shape.
 

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Yeah Amare will be back for the first round when we play San Antonio. At the end of Game 6, somehow Bowen will "accidentally" poke him in the eye despite his protective goggles, and we'll be forced to play without him for Game 7.
 

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Play Robin Loipez/Dudley more.

Nash should keep them useful in the run and gun...

and somehow O'Neal will have to score more... so maybe some plays for him

biut all this is FUNNY.. in a non HUMOROUS way considering everything the last month...
 

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i wish had an 8th of the optimism all of you have. this season is now fini. kerr better not screw up this draft pick too.
 

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Not being defensive. Just returning the tone you had in your previous email.

The comment I replied to deserved the tone though, since you implied that the difference between our Diaw and Charlotte's Diaw is lazy vs not lazy, which is one of the silliest things I've seen said in awhile. :) Replying to my sentence correcting a small error of yours in the same way just makes you look defensive.
 

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You said:

Sure, keep telling yourself that.

Which set the tone for your overall post regardless of which comment you were referring to. I just replied in the same tone. Nothing more. Nothing defensive about it. Just simply returning the tone.

since you implied that the difference between our Diaw and Charlotte's Diaw is lazy vs not lazy, which is one of the silliest things I've seen said in awhile.

Right....because Diaw wasn't known for being a lazy player while with the Suns. He had no reputation for being "unmotivated". Diaw never showed up out of shape. Do you actually read these forums? I am not the originator of those sentiments by a long shot but certainly agree with the thought which has been said previously by many posters not using my screen name.

What was I thinking? How silly that sounds.:rolleyes:
 
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Well 8 weeks is what's left in the season so if the timeline is correct, technically he would be back for the first round. Even if he's able to return, he will need some time to tune up unless he's able to stay in shape.

My thoughts exactly. He would need at least a week of tune up before the playoffs. I am really hoping here that the 8 weeks is really a worse case scenario.
 

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You said:



Which set the tone for your overall post regardless of which comment you were referring to. I just replied in the same tone. Nothing more. Nothing defensive about it. Just simply returning the tone.



Right....because Diaw wasn't known for being a lazy player while with the Suns. He had no reputation for being "unmotivated". Diaw never showed up out of shape. Do you actually read these forums? I am not the originator of those sentiments by a long shot but certainly agree with the thought which has been said previously by many posters not using my screen name.

What was I thinking? How silly that sounds.:rolleyes:

I would say the fact he's a starter now, he's playing 38 minutes instead of 24, and he's playing with guys that don't demand as many shots as Amare, Shaq, and Barbosa demanded has a ton more to do with his improvement than not being lazy.

It wasn't luck that in the last two games of the playoffs last year, Boris became a scoring machine. He didn't all of a sudden become strangely motivated and in shape for those two games. A conscious effort was made to go to him instead of Amare. I don't see any reason why that couldn't be repeated with Amare gone.

Whatever, talking about it is depressing me. I'm done talking about the trade. For now.
 

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i wish had an 8th of the optimism all of you have. this season is now fini. kerr better not screw up this draft pick too.

Then why do you continue to post here? Seriously, if you think the team won't go anywhere (which is definitely possible), why do you keep posting with people who clearly disagree with you? You have got to know that you aren't going to convince anyone, so I'm just curious why you keep posting the same thing over and over?

EDIT: I'm not trying to be argumentative, it just seems like it's not very fun to keep posting that stuff.
 

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It wasn't luck that in the last two games of the playoffs last year, Boris became a scoring machine. He didn't all of a sudden become strangely motivated and in shape for those two games. A conscious effort was made to go to him instead of Amare. I don't see any reason why that couldn't be repeated with Amare gone.

No kidding, Diaw played plenty hard on defense, his defrensive PER is not an accident. He always took the opponent PF scorer before amare and played against bigger opponents most of the time as shaqs backup over the last 2 seasons. You can say he wasnt productive because he wasnt used correctly, you can say he was overpaid for what he brought to the suns roster, but people calling him lazy never knew how much energy is expended on defense against a bigger player. The "lazy" description is just ignorance, butheaded ignorance of armchair quarterbacks.
 
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No kidding, Diaw played plenty hard on defense, his defrensive PER is not an accident.

Here we go again. Your going to try and use how he is playing now as a basis for how he would play with the Suns?? Diaw was NEVER going to play that way here because he was never going to start. He was unmotivated, showed up every season out of shape and dogged it on the court sometimes. He had the same rep with his previous team. How he is playing with the Bobcats is a completley different scenario. He is starting and that obviously motivates him. For whatever reason (probably being a bench player) Boris was unmotivated here.

He had one good year and all the Suns could do is look at how he played overall to make a decision.

Diaw's defensive per with the Suns at PF was 21.5 PPG (overall PER of 19.5) which is horrible. He played a little SF and a little center but spent majority of his minutes at PF when Shaq went to the bench. He rarely ever played Center and when Amare and Boris were on the court at the same time he played PF and Amare played Center. To give you an idea how bad he was...the Orlando Magic have the best PER at PF in the league at 14.4 at the PF position. The worst in the NBA is the Sacramento Kings at 19.4 average PER. Diaw was a horrible defender in a Suns uniform off the bench when playing PF. That is the role he would be playing if still on this team (assuming we still had Amare).

So, I guess the Suns should have used their crystal ball to guess how Diaw could play if some mythical situation happened and he started here. I am not going to deny Diaw is a better defender then Amare but it's stupid to think the Suns had any indication with the way Diaw played here overall.

Plus I am still not convinced Diaw will keep this up forever. Sooner or later the old Diaw will reappear if history is any indication.
 
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I bet Amare didn't see this one coming

(that's a bad pun)
 

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