*RUMOR* Diaw back to Phx *RUMOR*

[slinslin]

Diaw is an expiring too.

Diaw expires in 2012.

 

[tobiazz]

Diaw is an expiring too.

It appears Diaw has a player option for $9M for next season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-nba-trade-rumors-where-could-boris-diaw-land

 

[Sunshooter]

Diaw's contract is not a expiring, 2011/12 is a player option ($9 million).

So I won't do this trade.

 

[Mainstreet]

It appears Diaw has a player option for $9M for next season.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-nba-trade-rumors-where-could-boris-diaw-land

So if Diaw exercises his option, the Suns can use him like an expiring contract next season... if there is one. The key issue, is Tyrus worth it.

 

[Chaplin]

So if Diaw exercises his option, the Suns can use him like an expiring contract next season... if there is one. The key issue, is Tyrus worth it.

Nope.

 

[Mainstreet]

Diaw's contract is not a expiring, 2011/12 is a player option ($9 million).

So I won't do this trade.

So maybe the Suns get the pick instead of Charlotte.

 

[sunsfan88]

Looking at some Bobcats fans thoughts on the trade, they wouldn't do the trade either. Their very hyped on Tyrus Thomas. Some even say they wouldn't trade him unless they get a superstar in return.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1093377

 

[dodie53]

diaw again?

 

[tobiazz]

Looking at some Bobcats fans thoughts on the trade, they wouldn't do the trade either. Their very hyped on Tyrus Thomas. Some even say they wouldn't trade him unless they get a superstar in return.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1093377

The weird part about that is that the trade was framed as the Suns wanting to do it as long as they don't have to swap Warrick for Thomas. Weird. Can't be true.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Anyone know where this started?

 

[desertdawg]

Anyone know where this started?

Probably a lonely keyboard.

 

[sunsfan88]

Anyone know where this started?

http://orangespacesuits.tumblr.com/

 

[Chaplin]

http://orangespacesuits.tumblr.com/

No, it started by some nameless poster on the RealGM boards. Someone blogged about it after it appeared there.

 

[asudevil83]

My idea:
Carter/Warrick/Lopez
for
Diaw/Thomas/Wallace

 

[mojorizen7]

The Suns seemingly determinate road to ignorant mediocrity will get even better with a deal like this. Hopefully its just rumor.

 

[leclerc]

Say it happens, what would the rotation look like?

Lopez, Gortat, Siler
(Thomas,) Frye, Diaw
Hill, Pietrus,
Dudley, Childress,
Nash, Dragić, Dowdell
+ a pick

Yeah, and Nazr Mohammed.

I don't wanna give up picks. Is this the best deal we can get? I want some real talent. Is Thomas a real PF or a tweener? I'm not too enthusiastic about this scenario. Chill would see some court time, but we really need a stud SG. And Pietrus should learn when to shoot, he'd be our starting SF when Hill retires. He was good with the Warriors when they played us.

 

[JS22]

The narcissist in me would love to see Diaw starting at PF again without worrying about Amare.

Thomas is another young PF that hasn't really lived up to the hype. (Similar to Warrick.)

 

[Folster]

The latest rendition of the rumor... It gets worse.

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by ray ray on Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:16 am
The Suns are very hesistant to take on TyThomas contract so they where looking for a third team and they might just have found them. New revised trade;
Suns
outgoing: Vince Carter 17mil 1st round pick (im guessing its orlando's pick but I havent been able to confirm)
incoming: Boris Diaw 9mil Nizar Mohammed 6mil (expiring)
Clippers
outgoing: Chris Kaman 11.8mil Craig Smith 2.3 mil
Incoming: Vince Carter 17mil (4 mil player buyout) 1st round pick from Suns
Bobcats
outgoing:Boris Diaw 9mil Nizar Mohammed 6mil
Incoming: Chris Kaman 11.8mil Craig Smith 2.3 mil

The only thing is that the Bobcats want instant salary relief, so they want Vince Carter going their way. So the first trade that I posted is still a possability but the Suns dont want another 6 mil player that they believe is a Lou Amudsen type of player but more expensive. IMO, its a 60% chance that the first propose trade happens. Now the second propose trade has a much better chance of happening.

So we give up Carter's huge expiring contract (sans $4 million) for Diaw who has a player option next year for $9 million and Mohammed who is expiring. Oh yeah, and we have to include a first round pick as well.

This trade stinks of Sarver's short term thinking. If we get Diaw, our chances of squeaking into the playoffs increase, but we give up flexibility this summer and a pick that could bring in some young talent or be used as a bargaining chip to actually improve the team. This isn't 2006 where we are going to waltz into the postseason and play the Pau-less Lakers and then draw the overachieving Clippers in the second round to advance to the Western Conference Finals.

Perhaps we can flip Mohammed to a team in need of a competent big man like San Antonio for their playoff run. They could use a legitimate big to pair next to Duncan and Mohammed has experience playing for Popovich. Orlando comes to mind as well, but they have nothing to offer.

 

[Joe Mama]

The latest rendition of the rumor... It gets worse.

So we give up Carter's huge expiring contract (sans $4 million) for Diaw who has a player option next year for $9 million and Mohammed who is expiring. Oh yeah, and we have to include a first round pick as well.

This trade stinks of Sarver's short term thinking. If we get Diaw, our chances of squeaking into the playoffs increase, but we give up flexibility this summer and a pick that could bring in some young talent or be used as a bargaining chip to actually improve the team. This isn't 2006 where we are going to waltz into the postseason and play the Pau-less Lakers and then draw the overachieving Clippers in the second round to advance to the Western Conference Finals.

Perhaps we can flip Mohammed to a team in need of a competent big man like San Antonio for their playoff run. They could use a legitimate big to pair next to Duncan and Mohammed has experience playing for Popovich. Orlando comes to mind as well, but they have nothing to offer.

Vince Carter has a $4,000,000 buyout, so you could say that we would be paying Boris Diaw $5 million next season.

anybody think of one reason why the Clippers would make this deal? Surely they could get more for Kaman, couldn't they?

 

[Covert Rain]

Dear god no. Diaw back on this team?

 

[Folster]

Vince Carter has a $4,000,000 buyout, so you could say that we would be paying Boris Diaw $5 million next season.

anybody think of one reason why the Clippers would make this deal? Surely they could get more for Kaman, couldn't they?

And giving up a pick... You can't overlook that. Take out the pick and I'd do it.

 

[elindholm]

This trade is flat-out awful for the Suns and I'm counting on the fact that there is nothing to the rumor. It's debatable whether Diaw is even a better player than Warrick at this point. Warrick is a better scorer and rebounder; Diaw a better passer and defender. We all know that Diaw has more talent, but that's irrelevant because he almost never applies it.

I guarantee that if the Suns reacquire Diaw, this board is going to be gnashing their teeth in frustration on a regular basis within a month. We'll also get a lot of "I can't believe we have to pay him another year on top of this. This is the best we could get for Carter's expiring contract?" Never mind the fact that the Suns will be paying Mohammed, Childress, and Warrick a combined $17.4 million to play zero minutes.

I can't understand how anyone could find this trade remotely palatable to the Suns. It's unspeakably horrible.

 

[Mainstreet]

The only thing remotely intriguing about this trade was the thought that Tyrus Thomas could be a young PF for the Suns. If the Suns have no interest in him, it is indeed a bad trade. The thing I'm now wondering, could the proposed draft pick be coming to the Suns. If so, it might be worth considering. It may be the fans are only hearing about the rough draft concerning the trade.

 

[sunsfan88]

I wouldn't mind doing the first purposed trade if we can give them the ORL pick instead of ours.

Tyrus Thomas was playing very well in limited minutes before he got injured. His per 36 minutes stats were 18.7ppg, 9.7rpg, and 2.7bpg. He also had a PER (Player Effiency Ranking) of 20. Plus, he is the same age as Goran Dragic. Thomas brings exactly what we need. Defense and rebounding, not to mention he is also a very explosive dunker.

 

[jlove]

Just to let everyone know, Ray Ray, the guy on RealGM that posted this rumor, IS a legit guy. He broke the Orlando deal almost a week before it happened. He's also the one that posted that we were waiting until 18 Feb to do a deal around Lopez/Carter for Josh Smith, but apparently either the Suns are/have reconsidered that or Atlanta has, if this deal is being discussed.

IMO the only reason I would think the Suns aren't interested in Thomas is the fact that he hasn't been able to stay healthy, even going back to his time in Chicago. They may be worried that they'll get good production from him for a little while, then down with injury for awhile, ala Lopez. Personally, I do the original deal and take Thomas. I think with our new bigs rotation, we become a very good team and go deep in the playoffs with Nash leading the way. Thomas would beast with Nash.