Rumor: Edwin Jackson

[Mulli]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/edwin-jacksonadam-dunn-threeteam-rumor.html#disqus_thread

It wouldn't be late July without rumors of intriguing three-team deals. ESPN's Jayson Stark:
Rumblings continue to surface about a possible three-team deal involving the Nationals, White Sox and Diamondbacks that would send Edwin Jackson to Washington, Adam Dunn to Chicago and a bunch of young pitchers to Arizona.
We know the Nationals like Jackson and the White Sox like Dunn, so perhaps the D'Backs can facilitate a deal and further stock up on prospects. Jackson, who is no stranger to three-team deals, has a 5.01 ERA, 7.0 K/9, and 4.0 BB/9 in 20 starts for Arizona. On the plus side, he turns 27 in September, averages 94 mph on his fastball, and is signed for next year. As he was with Dan Haren, D'Backs interim GM Jerry Dipoto might be forced to sell low on Jackson.


I like it if the White Sox can send a bunch of AA and A ball pitchers to AZ.

 

[Dback Jon]

So no starters left?

 

[Mulli]

Edwin Jackson-Adam Dunn Three-Team Rumor

By Tim Dierkes [July 26 at 1:27pm CST]
1:27pm: The Diamondbacks have not yet held three-way talks with the Nationals and White Sox, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. Still, they will "not hesitate to deal Edwin Jackson if they get what they want."

This is from mlbtraderumors.com

 

[MigratingOsprey]

What could they get for Jackson? - Even with the no hitter it seems like his shine has to be a good ways off by now.

In a 3 way deal it seems like it would be the sox sending pitchers to the diamondbacks .... but really what could you get?

Maybe a solid mid-relief prospect like clevelan santeliz and a quality starter prospect who is a couple years away like dexter carter?

I doubt they get back anyone as good as scherzer

 

[Gaddabout]

Hard to believe no one's interested in Stephen Drew.

 

[Nash2Amare]

WTH does Chicago have? They have one of the worst farm systems in baseball.

 

[Gaddabout]

WTH does Chicago have? They have one of the worst farm systems in baseball.

What exactly would you expect to get for Edwin Jackson besides high-risk or one-tool minor leaguers?

 

[82CardsGrad]

Hard to believe no one's interested in Stephen Drew.

I like Drew... but, I really don't get the amount of love he receives on this board. One other poster thought he would garner a #1 starting pitcher in a trade.

He's solid. But, that really it. He's solidly in the second tier of SS's.

 

[devilalum]

Everybody is excited to trade with the Dbacks after seeing how little it took to get Haren.

A bat boy and a bag of Doritos might land you Jackson.

 

[DWKB]

I like Drew... but, I really don't get the amount of love he receives on this board. One other poster thought he would garner a #1 starting pitcher in a trade.

He's solid. But, that really it. He's solidly in the second tier of SS's.

Considering the level of talent on this team, isn't a second tier SS deserving of adulation relative to his teammates?

 

[82CardsGrad]

Considering the level of talent on this team, isn't a second tier SS deserving of adulation relative to his teammates?

Good point...

 

[Gaddabout]

I like Drew... but, I really don't get the amount of love he receives on this board. One other poster thought he would garner a #1 starting pitcher in a trade.

He's solid. But, that really it. He's solidly in the second tier of SS's.

Solid short stops who play every day have decent value in MLB. I didn't say he was amazing. Just noting he's worth something on the trade market and he won't be around by the time the D-Backs are meaningful again.

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Danny Espinosa and Juan Jaime from Washington, John Ely and Santos Rodriguez from the White Sox is what I'm hearing.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Solid short stops who play every day have decent value in MLB. I didn't say he was amazing. Just noting he's worth something on the trade market and he won't be around by the time the D-Backs are meaningful again.

I don't disagree with that. However, at this stage of the season, I tend to believe that trades are being done by teams looking to make a run at the post season. It's why Pitching is most often the big focus and what drives most of the trades.
Drew is the type of guy who would not at all add much in this context. However, if a team is willing to sign up for a decent, but nowhere great SS, taking a more longer-term perspective, than yea, something might get done between now and the start of next season.

 

[The Commish]

Danny Espinosa and Juan Jaime from Washington, John Ely and Santos Rodriguez from the White Sox is what I'm hearing.

Already like this package way more than what we got for Haren. Espinosa is a good, but not great shortstop prospect, Jaime and Rodriguez are high-ceiling but not yet ready guys and Ely is a grinder with okay stuff.

Would do this all day long for Jackson, who hasn't really shown me much this season.

 

[Gaddabout]

Drew is the type of guy who would not at all add much in this context. However, if a team is willing to sign up for a decent, but nowhere great SS, taking a more longer-term perspective, than yea, something might get done between now and the start of next season.

Detroit's a legitimate playoff contender and I'm sort of surprised they haven't pulled the trigger on Drew yet.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Detroit's a legitimate playoff contender and I'm sort of surprised they haven't pulled the trigger on Drew yet.

They've been hit so incredibly hard with injuries... they have so many needs now. I would think that if they want to make a real run at the post season, they are looking at other needs versus a guy like Drew who simply wouldn't add much to a post-season run. It's not like he would come in and start popping HR's all over the place and knocking in 3-4 runs a game... Drew is seriously struggling this year at the plate and in a park like Comerica Park, a definite pitchers park, I just don't see why the Tigers would see Drew as a target. Now, watch the deal get made tonight!

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Already like this package way more than what we got for Haren. Espinosa is a good, but not great shortstop prospect, Jaime and Rodriguez are high-ceiling but not yet ready guys and Ely is a grinder with okay stuff.

Would do this all day long for Jackson, who hasn't really shown me much this season.

I had mixed reviews about Jackson. He seemed like someone who had vast upside as a pro, but never quite put it all together prior to last season. He looked okay in his final season in Tampa, nothing spectacular though.

I saw him as a guy who could fill in as a respectable #2, and a good #3. Thus far, he's been a bit of a disappointment there, however my expectations weren't that major to begin with.

I really like that trade package I mentioned.

 

[Gaddabout]

They've been hit so incredibly hard with injuries... they have so many needs now. I would think that if they want to make a real run at the post season, they are looking at other needs versus a guy like Drew who simply wouldn't add much to a post-season run. It's not like he would come in and start popping HR's all over the place and knocking in 3-4 runs a game... Drew is seriously struggling this year at the plate and in a park like Comerica Park, a definite pitchers park, I just don't see why the Tigers would see Drew as a target. Now, watch the deal get made tonight!

They need a SS with or without injuries. Tigers looked at Drew up close. He played OK against them. Think he had a couple of hits and couple of RBIs. Maybe they decided to wait until year end.

 

[MigratingOsprey]

I think Stephen Drew has legitimate value in a very thin position .... he's still young and generally has a pretty good approach

however, he may not have enough value for the diamondbacks to actually trade him ...... in his career he has posted WAR of 1.8, -.01, 2.3, 1.6 and this year so far .7 (ranked #97 in the NL) ........ not exactly stellar stats, even for a SS

Right now he's young enough, his contract is friendly enough and he isn't really blocking anyone ..... so he may have the most value to the diamondbacks

For shortshops this season in the NL his WAR is in the range of edgar renteria and yunel escobar and starlin castro

last year if you take his career best 2.3 it would put him in with dan uggla, chris coghlan, martin prado & seth smith around 50th in the NL ..... nice players and ones who can help, but may not carry the largest bounty

last year hanley posted a 7.2, tulo a 6.8, escobar a 5.5, furcal a 2.8

I know it's only one stat, but it helps provide some context

If a team needed an injury replacement or if they were really bad at SS they may be willing to make a move ... but it wouldn't be for an MLB ready player and it probably wouldn't be worth losing drew in the d'backs lineup

he's in an odd position of being decent but not good enough to be highly desired

it's kind of like the marlins and cody ross ...... he has more value to the team than what he'll get a trade, although he could definitely help some clubs even if he isn't a world beater

 

[overseascardfan]

Already like this package way more than what we got for Haren. Espinosa is a good, but not great shortstop prospect, Jaime and Rodriguez are high-ceiling but not yet ready guys and Ely is a grinder with okay stuff.

Would do this all day long for Jackson, who hasn't really shown me much this season.

They should have kept Haren and did this trade.

 

[DevilPrideBAS]

Danny Espinosa and Juan Jaime from Washington, John Ely and Santos Rodriguez from the White Sox is what I'm hearing.

That might be difficult considering Ely is in the Dodgers farm system now.

 

[asuhoopsnut]

That might be difficult considering Ely is in the Dodgers farm system now.

That's hilarious. Where is Diamondback Jay hearing these things from?

 

[Diamondback Jay]

That's hilarious. Where is Diamondback Jay hearing these things from?

Aint gotta refer to me in the third person.. I'm right here.

Heard from a source who works within the Nationals broadcast team. Seems like it may have been speculation on his part, although the deal (minus Ely obviously) makes a fair deal of sense for Arizona. Also, it's documented that they're interested in both Jaime and Espinosa.

But hey, who the **** is he to make a call like this right? I mean, he works in the business every day. Granted, he doesn't know every single player in every single system like the experts here do..

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

They're saying Daniel Hudson plus a pitching propsect. Hudson is the Sox #1 pitching prospect but I think he may be a bit overrated. Still, on paper, it looks to me like that's still better than what you got for Haren.