Russell Wilson in our Offense Last YR Or Tom Brady

[cardsunsfan]

I admit I doubt any qb would have been really successful last year but when I look at the best qb over the last decade I would take Brady.. but with the QB's playing right now I think Russell Wilson would have had the best chance of getting twice as many wins or more.. Kind of funny how many hope Murray will be Similar to Wilson..

Another QB vs a lot of positions debate.. although I think Wilson would have helped us get a lot more wins.. I don't believe a defense player in this draft would..not even Bosa.. actually if I could have a best defensive player addition it would be another shutdown CB like Peterson.. I do think that would make some difference..

 

[Kai]

/csdfan
I think that Byron Murphy is the best cornerback in this year’s draft will be very good, maybe even a pro bowler and an all pro

 

[AZCrazy]

He's definitely a target in a trade down scenario.

 

[Kai]

Agreed

/azcrazy

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Rosen isn't Tom Brady. He is crappy Ryan Tannehill

 

[Shane]

Rosen isn't Tom Brady. He is crappy Ryan Tannehill

You don't have any idea what Rosen is at this point.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

No QB would've succeeded with Wilks team...

 

[GatorAZ]

No QB would've succeeded with Wilks team...

There’s only one...

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[cardsunsfan]

I don't know what "succeeded" means but I am thinking Wilson may have given us 6-7 wins instead of 3.. I think Wilson would have more clout as well.. Brady.. I don't know, he does have a quick release but I think mobility would have really helped a player behind our line. What I'm thinking though is how extra w's would Bosa have gotten us? I'm thinking maybe 1? The QB really is the most important player..getting the best one possible is really important... Of course we need to have a receiver who catch the ball as well.. Looking at some Rosen plays though Fitz was open a lot more than he was thrown to.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Rosen isn't Tom Brady. He is crappy Ryan Tannehill

KM is not Wilson. He's the second coming of Johnny Football.

 

[cardsfanmd]

KM is not Wilson. He's the second coming of Johnny Football.

Terrible analogy. Johnny Football failed because he’s degenerate trash.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Terrible analogy. Johnny Football failed because he’s degenerate trash.

Hey! He was the guy who was going to change football as we know it. Similar skills; we'll see the results in the not too distant.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Rosen isn't Tom Brady. He is crappy Ryan Tannehill

Shots fired!

We need back up in the Russell Wilson thread immediately!

 

[Crimson Warrior]

KM is not Wilson. He's the second coming of Johnny Football.

Further proof you watch very little US college football sir. Either that, or you're trolling horribly.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Further proof you watch very little US college football sir. Either that, or you're trolling horribly.

Yep. Murray throws from the pocket.

Most of the anti-Murray posts are filled with intellectual sloth, devoid of any basis in reality.

 

[BW52]

Terrible analogy. Johnny Football failed because he’s degenerate trash.

And what proof do you have that Murray will be any better? Not a freaking bit.Speculation and overblown hype is all you got.

 

[BW52]

Yep. Murray throws from the pocket.

Most of the anti-Murray posts are filled with intellectual sloth, devoid of any basis in reality.

Most of the Murray lovefest is based on hype,playing inferior teams in a lousy defensive conference,speculation and hope looking for the next Russell Wilson.Some aren`t buying what you guys are selling.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Most of the Murray lovefest is based on hype,playing inferior teams in a lousy defensive conference,speculation and hope looking for the next Russell Wilson.Some aren`t buying what you guys are selling.

Murray is a better passer than Josh Rosen on every level.

One of the best statistical seasons in over 100 years of college football.

Yeah! Just hype! Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

I'm looking at Kyler Murray holistically. Nice young man, who works his butt off, and has a great understanding of playing QB. Very much has shown he can work through progressions, throws with elite velocity, and is an elite athlete.

One of the scouts that watched Murray throw at his pro day, basically stated that if you watch Murray's film, his footwork is almost always great because he's such a springy athlete. He's like a cat.

 

[TJ]

No QB would've succeeded with Wilks team...

Exactly. Brady and Wilson would’ve inherently had more success based on experience alone, but to suggest that they would’ve been the panacea to the offensive woes is silly. Both are surrounded by great talent and coaching, which plays a key role in their successes

 

[BW52]

Murray is a better passer than Josh Rosen on every level.

One of the best statistical seasons in over 100 years of college football.

Yeah! Just hype! Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

I'm looking at Kyler Murray holistically. Nice young man, who works his butt off, and has a great understanding of playing QB. Very much has shown he can work through progressions, throws with elite velocity, and is an elite athlete.

One of the scouts that watched Murray throw at his pro day, basically stated that if you watch Murray's film, his footwork is almost always great because he's such a springy athlete. He's like a cat.

One of the best stat season in college matters how in the NFL?
Hype is involved in the Media/talking heads frenzy involving Murray.It is ridiculous to think otherwise.
I question his ability to withstand bigger better stronger faster smarter players after him.i question his ability to use his passing lanes ,I question his abilty to be able to use his "elite' traits in the NFl,He isn`t superman no matter what you and your fellow Murray fans think.
I don`t think he is worth the risk .That's my opinion.
If the Cards do dradft him I will be disappointed but I will just hope he will be able to do what you Murray fans seem so sure that he will do.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Further proof you watch very little US college football sir. Either that, or you're trolling horribly.

Many want to use the second half of KM against Alabama as proof positive that he's the QB going forward for the Cards.

Well, I remember Johnny Football throwing 5 TDs and close to 500 yards against #1 Alabama in a close loss.

What I suspect is that the KK offence run by Keenum, Johnny Football, Mayfield, Mahomes, Webb - and now modified for the NFL can be run by Josh Rosen.

 

[GuernseyCard]

One of the best stat season in college matters how in the NFL?
Hype is involved in the Media/talking heads frenzy involving Murray.It is ridiculous to think otherwise.
I question his ability to withstand bigger better stronger faster smarter players after him.i question his ability to use his passing lanes ,I question his abilty to be able to use his "elite' traits in the NFl,He isn`t superman no matter what you and your fellow Murray fans think.
I don`t think he is worth the risk .That's my opinion.
If the Cards do dradft him I will be disappointed but I will just hope he will be able to do what you Murray fans seem so sure that he will do.

Have you noted, that the talking heads can't seem to find him a home if the Cards pass?

It speaks to a belief that KK offence is gimmicky and thus KM is ideal.

But, is he the answer when it's modified by Clements for the NFL?

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

I don't know what "succeeded" means but I am thinking Wilson may have given us 6-7 wins instead of 3.. I think Wilson would have more clout as well.. Brady.. I don't know, he does have a quick release but I think mobility would have really helped a player behind our line. What I'm thinking though is how extra w's would Bosa have gotten us? I'm thinking maybe 1? The QB really is the most important player..getting the best one possible is really important... Of course we need to have a receiver who catch the ball as well.. Looking at some Rosen plays though Fitz was open a lot more than he was thrown to.

Maybs 4 wins and him being able to walk after the season would have considered a great season, with that coaching staff and personnel

 

[TJ]

Have you noted, that the talking heads can't seem to find him a home if the Cards pass?

It speaks to a belief that KK offence is gimmicky and thus KM is ideal.

But, is he the answer when it's modified by Clements for the NFL?

If Arizona doesn’t take Murray, he’s going to plummet a la Brady Quinn,
Aaron Rodgers, and Lamar Jackson.

I don’t wish ill-will on the kid, but the ramifications of this hype are disconcerting for his draft prospects.

 

[cardsfanmd]

And what proof do you have that Murray will be any better? Not a freaking bit.Speculation and overblown hype is all you got.

So now you attack the kid’s character with ZERO evidence to support your claim. That’s pathetic and you should be embarrassed.