Ryan Dunn - the Real Deal or Beginner's Luck?

[95pro]

career high rebounds with 11
career high in points with 18
only had 2 fouls tonight along with 2 for 3 from deep

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And played some pg

 

[ProdigalSun]

they better not trade him for Jimmy

 

[Bada0Bing]

they better not trade him for Jimmy

If they do that, I'm gonna have to take a break from this team. Dunn is an absolute monster. I have no idea what his ceiling is, but he reminds me so much of Scottie Pippen. He's the guy I've been waiting for to play next to Book.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I love Dunn so far. He’s got a high ceiling. But let’s be realistic, he’s 22. He’s not a one and done guy. He has subpar handles. Scottie pippen is a stretch. Pippen was a good ballhandler and facilitator in addition to being a good scorer and excellent defender. I think Dunn can be a top level defender and a good scorer. He’s already shown the ability to improve his outside shooting. But developing the handles and playmaking chops that pippen had is highly unlikely.

 

[Bada0Bing]

I love Dunn so far. He’s got a high ceiling. But let’s be realistic, he’s 22. He’s not a one and done guy. He has subpar handles. Scottie pippen is a stretch. Pippen was a good ballhandler and facilitator in addition to being a good scorer and excellent defender. I think Dunn can be a top level defender and a good scorer. He’s already shown the ability to improve his outside shooting. But developing the handles and playmaking chops that pippen had is highly unlikely.

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I think he looks a lot more smooth out there compared to earlier in the season.

Above are his stats compared to Pippen's rookie season, but I'm more impressed with how Dunn flows on the court. Just always seems to be in the right place. I enjoy watching him more than anyone else on the team by far.

 

[ProdigalSun]

I love Dunn so far. He’s got a high ceiling. But let’s be realistic, he’s 22. He’s not a one and done guy. He has subpar handles. Scottie pippen is a stretch. Pippen was a good ballhandler and facilitator in addition to being a good scorer and excellent defender. I think Dunn can be a top level defender and a good scorer. He’s already shown the ability to improve his outside shooting. But developing the handles and playmaking chops that pippen had is highly unlikely.

Even though he was not a "one and done" guy you have to admit that there appears to be way more to his game then what was "billed" off his college tape. Who really knows what his ceiling is?

 

[BirdGangThing]

he's more rodman than pippen imo - built like both tho and is getting more aggressive on offense so who knows

 

[Hoop Head]

I think Dunn looks like young Jimmy Butler. Butler also entered the league at 22 but barely played his rookie season, 42 games and less than 10 minutes on average. So I pulled up his second season when he was a clear rotation player like Dunn and there are some similarities. They are also built the same, bulky 6'7" wings.

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[Proximo]

they better not trade him for Jimmy

I am done with this team if they do. I took a 4 or 5 year break with Sarver, and I will take at least that long a break again if they do that.

 

[Proximo]

he's more rodman than pippen imo - built like both tho and is getting more aggressive on offense so who knows

Well, he is starting to figure out he can be a great rebounder so I understand the comparison - but he is already a much better offensive player than Rodman.

He can be damn good if he keeps improving.

 

[Bufalay]

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I think he looks a lot more smooth out there compared to earlier in the season.

Above are his stats compared to Pippen's rookie season, but I'm more impressed with how Dunn flows on the court. Just always seems to be in the right place. I enjoy watching him more than anyone else on the team by far.

Assists and steals favor Pippen by a lot.

 

[Hoop Head]

Assists and steals favor Pippen by a lot.

It's so hard to compare players that are 30+ Years apart. Look at the 3pt shooting alone. Pippen averaged 1 attempt every 3 games and a make every 10. That's insane. The game was very different overall and the interior focus led to more steals and blocks because everyone was packed inside the 3pt line.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Even though he was not a "one and done" guy you have to admit that there appears to be way more to his game then what was "billed" off his college tape. Who really knows what his ceiling is?

For sure. He’s got more offensive game than anyone expected. But for the most part having tight handles is typically something you master younger in life. I know cheese points to kawhi getting better handles, but that’s an outlier.

 

[Phrazbit]

He is going to have to learn how to shoot free throws. Hard to play as a slashing player and get by shooting under 50% from the line.

 

[hcsilla]

He is going to have to learn how to shoot free throws. Hard to play as a slashing player and get by shooting under 50% from the line.

Yes, but given how enthusiastic and disciplined he looks, he will need 1-2 offseason to do his homework regarding FT's.

 

[Phrazbit]

Yes, but given how enthusiastic and disciplined he looks, he will need 1-2 offseason to do his homework regarding FT's.

I have hope, it's crazy that he can be so competent at everything else and utterly terrible at FTs, that has got to be something mechanical that can, hopefully, be fixed. But they reeeeeeally need to fix it. A free throw percentage that bad makes you basically unplayable late in any meaningful game.

 

[Ronin]

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[Mainstreet]

He is going to have to learn how to shoot free throws. Hard to play as a slashing player and get by shooting under 50% from the line.

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how one looks at it, shooting issues were major reasons why Dunn and Ighodaro were available in the draft.

 

[GatorAZ]

Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on how one looks at it, shooting issues were major reasons why Dunn and Ighodaro were available in the draft.

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The draft is the one thing I put on James Jones and he knocked it out of the park this year. I will never get over Haliburton though.

 

[Mainstreet]

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The draft is the one thing I put on James Jones and he knocked it out of the park this year. I will never get over Haliburton though.

I'm waiting to see who is behind the curtain.

It's hard for me to believe James Jones can nail later draft picks, but not the early ones. His fingerprints were all over the 2020 draft.

He could have traded out of the 10th spot if he didn't want to draft Haliburton.

 

[Ronin]

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Ryan Dunn is the first Suns rookie to score in double figures for 5 straight games since Deandre Ayton in 2018-19.Notably, Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson never did that in their rookie seasons with Phoenix

 

[Superbone]

Ryan Dunn is the first Suns rookie to score in double figures for 5 straight games since Deandre Ayton in 2018-19.Notably, Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson never did that in their rookie seasons with Phoenix

To answer the thread question, Real Deal!

 

[ProdigalSun]

One other observation. He seems to be a low key dude. No social media posts. The pre-game team “fashion show” posts show him walking out of hotels or into the arena in usually a hoodie and sweats. I think I remember when he was drafted he told Ishbia “he promised he was going to live in the gym.” So far it looks like that wasn’t just lip service

 

[95pro]

For sure. He’s got more offensive game than anyone expected. But for the most part having tight handles is typically something you master younger in life. I know cheese points to kawhi getting better handles, but that’s an outlier.

I’d like to believe he’s playing within the system. There’s 1v1 footage with him dribbling and putting on moves on guys like KD.

Oso, haven’t seen much than what we see on the court.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I’d like to believe he’s playing within the system. There’s 1v1 footage with him dribbling and putting on moves on guys like KD.

Oso, haven’t seen much than what we see on the court.

It’s not his lack of ballhandling that makes me question his ability. It’s the fact that virtually every time I see him put the ball on the floor he gets it stolen or he commits an offensive foul. Unless he has an absolutely clear path to the bucket he simply doesn’t have sufficient handles to get anywhere with the ball.