Ryan McDonough

[Phrazbit]

lol. If those are the stats you used to "predict" the Suns would win less than 20 games last year, please show your work. Go ahead. I'm waiting.

Eric Bledsoe is a loser. Ship his ass out of here!

Waiting for what? You're the same dope who said Houston would miss the playoffs, Memphis was the 2nd best team in the west, the Lakers would be good and Kelly Olynyk would win rookie of the year.

 

[devilalum]

Eric Bledsoe is a loser? I'm pretty indifferent about him staying or not, but how did you come to that brilliant assessment? I don't think he's a loser, maybe dumb for buying into the crap that Rich Paul is selling, but not a loser.

There's a saying that goes, "Better to sit silent and let people think you are stupid than open your mouth and remove all doubt."

The very few times I have heard Bledsoe speak he didn't strike me as being a highly intelligent individual. I think he's bought into whatever Lebron and Paul are feeding him and he'll probably do whatever they say. Unfortunately as has been rehashed here many times their agenda seems to go way beyond just doing what's best for Eric Bledsoe.

Its a total crap situation but we don't know enough about Bledsoe to make assertions like, "He's a loser." "He's greedy." blah blah

 

[BC867]

When a player disassociates himself from his last team (and teammates and fans), of course it is going to elicit emotional responses from Suns fans.

I haven't called him any names, but I hope we are not stuck with him (and his agent) this season. The sooner the Suns can move on, the better.

 

[Sci Fi]

Waiting for what? You're the same dope who said Houston would miss the playoffs, Memphis was the 2nd best team in the west, the Lakers would be good and Kelly Olynyk would win rookie of the year.

Dope?

I would say that's you.

Have you admitted how stupid you were about last year? You said you would. I doubt you did.

You tried to shout down everyone who disagreed with you last year.

Shut up. You're a loud mouth, know nothing fool.

Go make some good predictions for once in your life.

I doubt you can.

 

[Sci Fi]

Waiting for what? You're the same dope who said Houston would miss the playoffs, Memphis was the 2nd best team in the west, the Lakers would be good and Kelly Olynyk would win rookie of the year.

What's actually funny about this is that all of these predictions were fairly close, except the Lakers who had huge injuries. BTW, you also said the same thing about the Lakers.

 

[Phrazbit]

What's actuallu funny about this is that all of these predictions were fairly close, except the Lakers who had huge injuries. BTW, you also said the same thing about the Lakers. You're an idiot.

Memphis barely made the playoffs, Houston finished exactly where I said they would, and hosted a playoff series, something you made it clear they would not, the Lakers were awful before anyone got hurt, Kelly Olynyk received exactly zero rookie of the year votes.

So besides being way off on all of them... yeah, they were "fairly close".

 

[Sci Fi]

Memphis barely made the playoffs, Houston finished exactly where I said they would, and hosted a playoff series, something you made it clear they would not, the Lakers were awful before anyone got hurt, Kelly Olynyk received exactly zero rookie of the year votes.

So besides being way off on all of them... yeah, they were "fairly close".

I said Memphis would be the second best team but would start slow. They took OKC to 7 with Randolph suspended for game 7 . What did I miss? Almost a crystal ball.

I said Houston would have trouble with getting a home court playoff spot. They got one by a tiebreaker. The 4 and 5 each won 54 games. They lost in the first round.


Kelly Olynyk was great. Your too stupid to see that. Par for the couse.

You still haven't apologized for your arrogance of last year about the Suns. Come on you *******. Fess up

 

[Phrazbit]

I said Memphis would be the second best team but would start slow. They took OKC to 7 with Randolph suspended for game 7 . What did I miss? Almost a crystal ball.

I said Houston would have trouble with getting a home court playoff spot. They got one by a tiebreaker. The 4 and 5 each won 54 games. They lost in the first round.


Kelly Olynyk was great. Your too stupid to see that. Par for the couse.

You still haven't apologized for your arrogance of last year about the Suns Come on you *******. Fess up

lol,

Memphis barely made the playoffs!

You said Houston would not host a playoff series and might miss the playoffs entirely... neither was correct

You said Kelly Olynyk would win ROY, he did not receive a single vote!

This is hilarious.

And yes, I admitted I was wrong several times last year about the Suns. I have not shied away from it. But the last person I will apologize is to you, you dope. You're the same guy who has made a habit of throwing hissy fits and screaming profanities every time he is proven comically incorrect in an argument... which has happened basically every time you've shown yourself on this board.

In fact... I probably should not even be replying to you because I am pretty sure most of the board has you on ignore and my quoting your posts is only subjecting them to more pain.

So, I apologize sincerely to the rest of the board for this entire conversation.

 

[Sci Fi]

lol,

Memphis barely made the playoffs!

You said Houston would not host a playoff series and might miss the playoffs entirely... neither was correct

You said Kelly Olynyk would win ROY, he did not receive a single vote!

This is hilarious.

And yes, I admitted I was wrong several times last year about the Suns. I have not shied away from it. But the last person I will apologize is to you, you dope. You're the same guy who has made a habit of throwing hissy fits and screaming profanities every time he is proven comically incorrect in an argument... which has happened basically every time you've shown yourself on this board.

In fact... I probably should not even be replying to you because I am pretty sure most of the board has you on ignore and my quoting your posts is only subjecting them to more pain.

So, I apologize sincerely to the rest of the board for this entire conversation.

.

 

[elindholm]

In fact... I probably should not even be replying to you because I am pretty sure most of the board has you on ignore and my quoting your posts is only subjecting them to more pain.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!

 

[Mainstreet]

It's nice to have a GM like McDonough who can get things done, e.g., Bledsoe and who can multitask at the same time. I think he has a plan when he makes player personnel moves and I believe he may have more moves lined up to improve the Suns now or later.

 

[JCSunsfan]

McD was just interviewed on the radio. I just caught the end of it. He did say that as he has been watching practices, the biggest improvement the Suns will have from last year to this will be the center position. He says both Plumlee and Len are significantly improved.

 

[sunsfan88]

It's funny to me how McDonough can be so polarizing when we know so little about him. He engineered some trades of veterans for draft picks, which were good but not especially sophisticated, and -- aside from Warren, who so far looks like a hit -- has drafted long-term prospects who may or may not work out. He hasn't made any major acquisitions, but there's a good chance that none were realistic. His most important contract negotiation so far has been with Bledsoe, and neither camp is leaking any real information. McDonough is pretty much a completely blank slate, and yet all manner of qualities and deficiencies are being projected onto him.

For what its worth, ESPN has Suns FO ranked #18 in the NBA:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12541459/nba-front-office-rankings-2015?ex_cid=espnnbaTwitter

 

[BC867]

For what its worth, ESPN has Suns FO ranked #18 in the NBA:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12541459/nba-front-office-rankings-2015?ex_cid=espnnbaTwitter

It should be noted, then, that the Suns slipped from 12th to 18th in one year.

Which is not surprising when a team makes major changes, then un-does them a half season later. Two lead Point Guards to three lead Point Guards, then back to two lead Point Guards when there is player discontent.

We're trending down, not up.

 

[JS22]

It should be noted, then, that the Suns slipped from 12th to 18th in one year.

Which is not surprising when a team makes major changes, then un-does them a half season later. Two lead Point Guards to three lead Point Guards, then back to two lead Point Guards when there is player discontent.

We're trending down, not up.

One of the youngest teams in the league and 5 games over .500 playing in the Western Conference. Sounds like the ship is sinking to me.

They took a bit of a PR hit with the Dragic situation. And it's unknown how the Knight trade will pan out. (I STILL think he was brought here so they could dangle Bledsoe in the offseason.) That's about it really.

 

[slinslin]

ESPN, enough said.

 

[Covert Rain]

For what its worth, ESPN has Suns FO ranked #18 in the NBA:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12541459/nba-front-office-rankings-2015?ex_cid=espnnbaTwitter

I am actually surprised it's that high to be honest. With trading half your roster, the combo guard strategy not to mention all the bad publicity around our FO, Sarver and reputation around the league?!?!

Eighteen might be generous until our FO gets some distance from all this garbage.

 

[Phrazbit]

I am actually surprised it's that high to be honest. With trading half your roster, the combo guard strategy not to mention all the bad publicity around our FO, Sarver and reputation around the league?!?!

Eighteen might be generous until our FO gets some distance from all this garbage.

The reputation is overblown. Few care now and no one will care in a year's time.

When the current front office took over the Suns were one of the worst teams in the league and didn't even have any young guys viewed as worth building around.

Since then the team has gotten younger and significantly better.

 

[SweetD]

I have had high hopes for Ryan McDonough, mainly from the things I have read.

Part of that has been tarnished by the lack of his obtaining a strong Power Forward during the off-season. I know it is difficult, but I expected results, rather than having to alibi.

Tonight I saw something that turned me off. McDonough was on the D-backs pre-game show with Jody Jackson who, by the way, has turned into an excellent reporter in more than one sport.

It was the first time I have seen McDonough speaking extemporaneously. Or was he?

Every time he answered a question she posed, his eyes were looking down. He was either reading his answers (including the names of his ballplayers) from a cheat sheet or doesn't know the first thing about public speaking.

He didn't look at her, he didn't look at the camera. Not once, until she was asking her next question.

It is boring enough to see D-backs Manager Kirk Gibson staring straight ahead, not moving a muscle in his body and speaking in a dull monotone in his post-game Press conferences.

Is McDonough another Phoenix sports manager who is going to put us to sleep without the slightest show of emotion?

I am curious if any of you have seen him speaking any differently.

What power forward would you have signed? FYI the system is designed for a stretch 4, not a bruser.

 

[BC867]

FYI the system is designed for a stretch 4, not a bruser.

That's the problem. If you are going to prepare for post-season appearances, you need a bruiser. Someone to take pressure off Alex Len in the post.

The system design that you refer to defines the Suns as not striving to become a playoff force in the NBA.

 

[Phrazbit]

That's the problem. If you are going to prepare for post-season appearances, you need a bruiser. Someone to take pressure off Alex Len in the post.

The system design that you refer to defines the Suns as not striving to become a playoff force in the NBA.

As long as you ignore that the last 4 NBA champions have started a stretch 4 and typically used lineups that you would describe as "small ball".

 

[BC867]

As long as you ignore that the last 4 NBA champions have started a stretch 4 and typically used lineups that you would describe as "small ball".

47 years and it has never worked for the Suns. I guess they just don't know how to do it.

 

[Covert Rain]

As long as you ignore that the last 4 NBA champions have started a stretch 4 and typically used lineups that you would describe as "small ball".

Typically small ball is what the Suns were doing with combo guards and sliding a SF to the PF and a PF to the Center position (like when Amare was playing center). I don't recall any of the last 4 champs playing like that in their starting lineups but maybe I remember incorrectly.

Most teams will use a quick small lineup to spark something in a game but that is completely different than using small ball as your primary weapon....a la ...Suns teams of the past.

 

[Phrazbit]

47 years and it has never worked for the Suns. I guess they just don't know how to do it.

Maybe its not so simple as starting guys with right measurements and its more about finding guys with talent and skill.

Of the most depressing seasons that I can recall many of them involved the Suns using guys who are agreeable to a tape measure but suck on the court. Hot Rod Williams, Jake Tsuckalitis, Luc Longley, the 2012/13 team...

Talent is the trump card. Its not about being big, its about being good and executing.

 

[Phrazbit]

Typically small ball is what the Suns were doing with combo guards and sliding a SF to the PF and a PF to the Center position (like when Amare was playing center). I don't recall any of the last 4 champs playing like that in their starting lineups but maybe I remember incorrectly.

Most teams will use a quick small lineup to spark something in a game but that is completely different than using small ball as your primary weapon....a la ...Suns teams of the past.

The Mavericks relied heavily on their 3 headed PG (Terry, Kidd, JJ), they also used the prototypical stretch 4, the Heat played long stretches with a Bosh/LeBron front court, the Spurs used Diaw in the middle on a regular basis, their crunch time lineup was 2 combo guards, Diaw, Leonard and Duncan.

I also said that it lineups that BC would define as "small ball". And I have no doubt that if the Suns employed similarly sized players in those spots he'd rant and rave.