San Antonio @ Phoenix - Game Thread - Sun. May 6, 2007 - 12:30 p.m. ABC

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Is it just me or should the Trainer be fired for not getting Nashes nose to stop bleeding or have it covered for 3 minutes. I would of put 4 layers of gauze on Nash's face and made him a mummy but gotten him back out on the court. what the hell were those dinky little bandaids that he kept taking on and off?
 

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Layers of gauze may have worked, yes, but it would have still bled through eventually and the size of the bandage probably would have affected his vision. In hindsight they should have tried to stitch it up right away through one time out and a little bit of game time.
 

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Layers of gauze may have worked, yes, but it would have still bled through eventually and the size of the bandage probably would have affected his vision. In hindsight they should have tried to stitch it up right away through one time out and a little bit of game time.
Hindsight is a good description. He could have had a broken nose and playing with it could have affected him alot more than a gash.

Bravo to Steve for trying, to the trainers for trying, and to the officials for giving them the chance.

Now it's time to get ready for Game 2.

Stupidity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Playing Kurt Thomas only 12 minutes in Game 2 would be stupidity . . . just as it was in Game 1.
 

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Stupidity is defined as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Playing Kurt Thomas only 12 minutes in Game 2 would be stupidity . . . just as it was in Game 1.

Letting Marion get killed by Parker everytime they have played the spurs since last season proves that D'antoni is stupid. Nash could just as easily get murdered by Parker, so why even bother with Marion on him?
 

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if they win game 2, anything's possible. Problem is we're playing the best closers in the basketball. They don't just go into an opposing team's court and be content to get one - they want and usually take BOTH, especially against teams they own - they did it against us and the Nuggets two years ago and they're on pace to do the same thing again right now.

this sucks. MUST WIN GAME 2.
 

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If the Suns lose any of the next 3 games, they lose the series as well....

Heck, even I wouldn't go that far. If by some miracle they can get to 2-2, it's anyone's series. Unfortunately I would put the odds at 5:1 against the Suns accomplishing that.
 

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Doesn't that apply to your posts? It sounds like you've characterized them perfectly.

e, I know we're all upset, but was this really necessary? I mean, almost ALL of us say the same thing over and over again, but to just outright call someone and their posts stupid seems a bit over the line.
 

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Am I the only one the thinks D'Antoni was more to blame for Parker dropping 30? I mean even as fast as Marion is, it's generally a bad idea to match a penetrating point guard with a SF. It's freaking stupid.

It takes Marion out of position for rebounding. If he is chasing Parker, it also prevents him from getting out on the break. I think the fact that Marion still managed 16 was a miracle.

AGAIN....D'Antoni didn't make in game adjustments. I mean my gosh. If Parkers is going to drop 30, why not just have Nash guard him? If he is going to get his no matter what, then at least put your players in their natural positions and give those players a chance to succeed.
 

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Am I the only one the thinks D'Antoni was more to blame for Parker dropping 30? I mean even as fast as Marion is, it's generally a bad idea to match a penetrating point guard with a SF. It's freaking stupid.

It takes Marion out of position for rebounding. If he is chasing Parker, it also prevents him from getting out on the break. I think the fact that Marion still managed 16 was a miracle.

AGAIN....D'Antoni didn't make in game adjustments. I mean my gosh. If Parkers is going to drop 30, why not just have Nash guard him? If he is going to get his no matter what, then at least put your players in their natural positions and give those players a chance to succeed.

yup, DA's stubborness is what lost the game today - if there's two guys Marion ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT COVER on the Spurs it's Parker and Duncan, the two guys he "guarded" for most of the game. How DA can't see this is beyond me.
 

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yup, DA's stubbornness is what lost the game today - if there's two guys Marion ABSOLUTELY CAN NOT COVER on the Spurs it's Parker and Duncan, the two guys he "guarded" for most of the game. How DA can't see this is beyond me.

Good. I was starting to think I was the only one that thought those match-ups didn't put our players in the best position to succeed. It didn't help that Nash couldn't finish the game but through the course of the game those match-ups were not working. WTF didn't D'Antoni see that?

We cannot afford to give up every other game to give D'Antoni a chance to make adjustments. He better learn to do it on the fly during games or we are toast.
 

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Good. I was starting to think I was the only one that thought those match-ups didn't put our players in the best position to succeed. It didn't help that Nash couldn't finish the game but through the course of the game those match-ups were not working. WTF didn't D'Antoni see that?

We cannot afford to give up every other game to give D'Antoni a chance to make adjustments. He better learn to do it on the fly during games or we are toast.

honestly, I woudl commend Marion for the second half, but he was killing me in the first, missing two layups and a chippy 10 footer that he looked PETRIFIED to hit. it was nice to see him get going in the fourth and I hope that gives him confidence to really be a factor and get those first game jitters out of him. We DESPERATELY need those 16 points and more and DA NEEDS to get him out of horrific defensive matchups that totally take away whatever defensive capabilities he has (getting in the lane, blocking from the weak side, steals, etc.)

thank God Game 2 is on Tuesday - it can't get here fast enough. Get a W, get the spilt and then all the pressure falls on both teams with 4 days off heading into swing game 3.
 

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I'm probably in the minority here but I thought Diaw and Amare BOTH did as well as could be expected of them on Duncan. The key to the game was Amare's shooting percentage due IMHO to expending unnecessary (because KT should have been on Duncan) effort on defense.

Edit: Also LB hogged the ball a bit in the 2nd half. Just my two cents.
 
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I'm probably in the minority here but I thought Diaw and Amare BOTH did as well as could be expected of them on Duncan. The key to the game was Amare's shooting percentage due IMHO to expending unnecessary (because KT should have been on Duncan) effort on defense.

Edit: Also LB hogged the ball a bit in the 2nd half. Just my two cents.

I agree. Your not going to stop Duncan. If not for the phantom call, Duncan would have probably gotten a few less points. However, Duncan is going to get his. I still would have liked to see KT get more then 12 minutes. Especially when he did a good job when he was in there.

I still would like to see Kurt and Amare in there for a stretch to see if not only defensively does that work but if it puts pressure on San Antonio on the other end.
 

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I would just put Nash on Parker. I think the Suns coaches think too much. Marion has never been able to guard parker just as Joe Johnson couldn't guard Parker two years ago. Nash will get beat by him, but Nash is a willing defender and will make a few key plays. Marion should guard Elson, or any of the Spurs big men not named Duncan. Raja should be on Finley or Manu and Amare should be on Duncan, unless KT is in at the same time. Marion guarding Elson is a good idea IMO, because Marion should be in position to rebound and provide some help defense for Amare, or if Parker gets by Nash.
 

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Bad luck and couple of questionable calls but the Suns are capable of playing much better. I like our chances in this game if Steve was playing at the end.

I really expected them to split these two games and be 2-2 after the first 4 so no reason to push the panic button yet.
 

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Layers of gauze may have worked, yes, but it would have still bled through eventually and the size of the bandage probably would have affected his vision. In hindsight they should have tried to stitch it up right away through one time out and a little bit of game time.
From the second that happened I was yelling at the tv--I could not understand why they couldn't freakin' see that was going to need stitches--sooner, rather than later. I knew it wasn't going to stop bleeding. I don't know how many times I said "they need to run him in the back real quick & stitch him up"...I was so pissed.
 

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From the second that happened I was yelling at the tv--I could not understand why they couldn't freakin' see that was going to need stitches--sooner, rather than later. I knew it wasn't going to stop bleeding. I don't know how many times I said "they need to run him in the back real quick & stitch him up"...I was so pissed.

2 and a half minutes left is not a lot of time. And why would we use all our timeouts up with that much time remaining in a close game?
 
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From the second that happened I was yelling at the tv--I could not understand why they couldn't freakin' see that was going to need stitches--sooner, rather than later. I knew it wasn't going to stop bleeding. I don't know how many times I said "they need to run him in the back real quick & stitch him up"...I was so pissed.

They knew immediately it needed stitches, but it would have taken about 15 minutes to take him back and stitch it, and there were only about one+ minutes left in the game.
 

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From the second that happened I was yelling at the tv--I could not understand why they couldn't freakin' see that was going to need stitches--sooner, rather than later. I knew it wasn't going to stop bleeding. I don't know how many times I said "they need to run him in the back real quick & stitch him up"...I was so pissed.

I think after the game they said they knew it would need stitches, but they didnt have enough time to take steve to the locker room, stitch him up, and bring him back out
 
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