Screw The Nfl That Game Was Rigged!!!

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That's because the Cardinals were in on the fix. That's why you see the Cardinals players get so mad. They hate it when they have to follow a script that forces them to lose a game.

Games have been fixed forever. Even our SB. Down 20-14 with 3 minutes left and miraculously Pittsburgh gets called for holding in the endzone and then Fitz who has been blanketed all day suddenly gets wide open as the Steelers defenders run over to the sidelines to chat with the cheerleaders and then Francisco miraculously falls down and then Santonio Holmes drops the scripted TD pass so they have to run it over again to the other side.

You should see if you could get some work writing some of the scripts.

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I don't know about you but I want George Lucas and Steven Spielberg to write our scripts, I think they did Indiana Jones and Joe Montana...the games would still be close but we would win lol
 

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BS. We had our chances and blew it regardless of those calls. Or are you going to just keep ignoring that on first down, Palmer threw a ball that led Roberts directly out of bounds when he was wide open for a 5 yard game...or when he missed Roberts WIDE OPEN on 3rd down for what would have likely been a thirty yard gain with NO ONE near him. Did the referees makes Palmer make those two throws, one of them COMPLETELY AWFUL on 3rd down? No. We had our chances and blew it. BOTH of those plays happened in the last 5 minutes and the refs had nothing to do with either of them.

Right, and are you forgetting that if the refs hadn't thrown that cheap flag on the Peterson interception that the first down play you mentioned wouldn't even had existed because the Cardinals would have had the ball near field goal range with a legit chance to tie the game instead of starting at their 10? If the refs had nothing do do with the outcome, how come they didn't throw the flag on the blatant pass interference on Floyd on fourth down?
 

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Right, and are you forgetting that if the refs hadn't thrown that cheap flag on the Peterson interception that the first down play you mentioned wouldn't even had existed because the Cardinals would have had the ball near field goal range with a legit chance to tie the game instead of starting at their 10? If the refs had nothing do do with the outcome, how come they didn't throw the flag on the blatant pass interference on Floyd on fourth down?

Yeah, that's what got to me. You call it one way (matheu) and miss a blatant crucial call / hold on Floyd. That can't happen. They need further investigation. I know it's not the NBA, but the league needs to have consistency. If not apologies are in order. It could kick us on the outside looking in. It was a crucial loss for us and a W for them. We could've/should've played better. But the timing of the no call was egregious.
 

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Right, and are you forgetting that if the refs hadn't thrown that cheap flag on the Peterson interception that the first down play you mentioned wouldn't even had existed because the Cardinals would have had the ball near field goal range with a legit chance to tie the game instead of starting at their 10? If the refs had nothing do do with the outcome, how come they didn't throw the flag on the blatant pass interference on Floyd on fourth down?

No. I have acknowledged that the refs did us no favors, but we STILL had our chances even with those bad breaks and STILL blew it. Never said the refs disnt have anything to do with the outcome. I just think we blew our own opportunities that WE controlled and the notion that "there was no way they were letting us win" ignores the very simple facts that we still had our chances and crapped the bed when the refs couldn't do anything about it.
 

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No. I have acknowledged that the refs did us no favors, but we STILL had our chances even with those bad breaks and STILL blew it. Never said the refs disnt have anything to do with the outcome. I just think we blew our own opportunities that WE controlled and the notion that "there was no way they were letting us win" ignores the very simple facts that we still had our chances and crapped the bed when the refs couldn't do anything about it.

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The problem I have with the we shot ourselves in the foot ...thus we didn't deserve to win theory.....is that no team plays well throughout the whole game. The thing is when we played poorly....the refs didn't bail us out!!! When Philly played poorly...they bailed them out 3 times!!!

Change 3 plays/calls in that game and we win by 10+....

PI before the half...was questionable....but if you call that you must call the 2 on Floyd

The holding on Peterson's INT.

And the Holding on 3rd down on shaugnessy....

Philly gain 37 yards in 17+ minutes....we stunk up the 1st half....The refs made the difference on who paid for their mistakes...
 

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The most unfortunate thing about the officiating in my opinion is that we've been discussing it for four days now.

We should be talking about our team but there's more threads about the officiating. We still have serious issues going forward. Palmer is almost dead to me now. Really big game and he put up stakes and folds immediately. 3 turnovers in a big game vs the Eagles 0. Total net yards, TOP, and penalties were almost identical. Comes down to turnovers. And we don't have a big game QB to win playoff games so it's almost pointless to even make the playoffs other than to say we made it.

Carry on.
 

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Today is the day the officials get grades from the officiating supervisors. I wonder if we will learn how the officials for last Sunday's game fared.
 

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The most unfortunate thing about the officiating in my opinion is that we've been discussing it for four days now.

We should be talking about our team but there's more threads about the officiating. We still have serious issues going forward. Palmer is almost dead to me now. Really big game and he put up stakes and folds immediately. 3 turnovers in a big game vs the Eagles 0. Total net yards, TOP, and penalties were almost identical. Comes down to turnovers. And we don't have a big game QB to win playoff games so it's almost pointless to even make the playoffs other than to say we made it.

Carry on.

The corrosive nature of this kind of stuff is it starts to seep into the consciousness of fans.

Right now they have a good thing going because in my opinion there is the illusion of fairness.

Fans assist in policing this by this quaint attitude that a team should rise above it,

That's like blaming a rape victim for deserving it in my opinion, we have the expectation of a consistently called game and I challenge the notion that these games are evenly and consistently called without an agenda. It's just my opinion because I have no proof and don't have time to amass it but just by my own eyes I find the NFL referees calling of games to in my opinion have scripting to it.

It's just my opinion but it does start to sap my enthusiasm.
 

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The most unfortunate thing about the officiating in my opinion is that we've been discussing it for four days now.

We should be talking about our team but there's more threads about the officiating. We still have serious issues going forward. Palmer is almost dead to me now. Really big game and he put up stakes and folds immediately. 3 turnovers in a big game vs the Eagles 0. Total net yards, TOP, and penalties were almost identical. Comes down to turnovers. And we don't have a big game QB to win playoff games so it's almost pointless to even make the playoffs other than to say we made it.

Carry on.

*sigh* Think about what you said here. Yes we had 3 turnovers(IIRC only 1 was really damaging) but the reason why the Eagles had none is because the one they did have was taken away on a bogus penalty and it would have been a big one. Everything is connected.
 

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BS. We had our chances and blew it regardless of those calls. Or are you going to just keep ignoring that on first down, Palmer threw a ball that led Roberts directly out of bounds when he was wide open for a 5 yard game...or when he missed Roberts WIDE OPEN on 3rd down for what would have likely been a thirty yard gain with NO ONE near him. Did the referees makes Palmer make those two throws, one of them COMPLETELY AWFUL on 3rd down? No. We had our chances and blew it. BOTH of those plays happened in the last 5 minutes and the refs had nothing to do with either of them.

Did you watch the game? The 4th down play Floyd was completely molested and no flag was thrown. Even the Philly media admits that. You don't think the officials had something to do with this?

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Did you watch the game? The 4th down play Floyd was completely molested and no flag was thrown. Even the Philly media admits that. You don't think the officials had something to do with this?

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CHEESE AND RICE!!!!!!!!! I have said REPEATEDLY that there were bad calls and the officials were part of the reason we lost, but the BIGGER PART WAS OUR MISTAKES. If Palmer hits Roberts on a WIDE OPEN pass across the middle with no one within 20 yards of him on that 3rd down, we don't need to rely on needing a call on a fourth down, on the road, where you're almost never going to get it.

and if you realize my post was in response to the claim that "there was no way the officials were going to let us win the game" you'd see that I am continually rebutting the idea that it was ALL the referees fault, not that they didn't hurt us. But we hurt ourselves on that very drive just as much as the officials did and THAT was within the team's control.

good lord guys.
 

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I don't know about you but I want George Lucas and Steven Spielberg to write our scripts, I think they did Indiana Jones and Joe Montana...the games would still be close but we would win lol

Obviously Cameron Crowe is our man for writing Cardinals scripts. :)
 

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The reality is there is home field advantage in the officiating. We have seen it in Philly Sunday and in other games throughout the season. For whatever reason home teams get calls or non calls when they play at home that they probably would not get on the road. I would like to understand why this is.

I guess what really bothered me about Sunday's game is how blatant the non call was on Floyd. If it was a bang bang play I could accept it however the ball was still 5 yards away from Floyd when the defender hit him from behind and there was a ref looking right at the play.

I would also like to know if a defender can even be called for holding (Shaughnessy) when it is behind the line of scrimmage?
 

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The reality is there is home field advantage in the officiating. We have seen it in Philly Sunday and in other games throughout the season. For whatever reason home teams get calls or non calls when they play at home that they probably would not get on the road. I would like to understand why this is.

I guess what really bothered me about Sunday's game is how blatant the non call was on Floyd. If it was a bang bang play I could accept it however the ball was still 5 yards away from Floyd when the defender hit him from behind and there was a ref looking right at the play.

I would also like to know if a defender can even be called for holding (Shaughnessy) when it is behind the line of scrimmage?

I was on a business trip in NC one time and that weekend the Panthers were playing I think Detroit. I met an NFL ref on the plane. I asked him how they stay impartial if they had a favorite team growing up. Interestingly he told me with that game he couldn't stand either team but overall was not a fan of the NFL and was a college guy.

Now I am sure that doesn't apply across the board but when you ref X number of games, even if you have a favorite team, chances are you are never going to work that game anyway. Plus they work games away from home....so I don't buy into this favoritism stuff.
 
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CHEESE AND RICE!!!!!!!!! I have said REPEATEDLY that there were bad calls and the officials were part of the reason we lost, but the BIGGER PART WAS OUR MISTAKES. If Palmer hits Roberts on a WIDE OPEN pass across the middle with no one within 20 yards of him on that 3rd down, we don't need to rely on needing a call on a fourth down, on the road, where you're almost never going to get it.

and if you realize my post was in response to the claim that "there was no way the officials were going to let us win the game" you'd see that I am continually rebutting the idea that it was ALL the referees fault, not that they didn't hurt us. But we hurt ourselves on that very drive just as much as the officials did and THAT was within the team's control.

good lord guys.

I understand you're point and agree the Cardinals hurt themselves on that drive, but let us just say for a minute that Roberts caught that ball and turned and ran it up the field for 70 yards, I would be more surprised at a cheap flag NOT being thrown for a block in the back, holding, or some other infraction that would have negated the play than one being thrown.

After that extremely ticky tac flag on TM I knew at that point the officials were going to call the game extra tight on the Cardinals and make it exceedingly difficult to walk out of that stadium with the win. It just wasn't happening.

The tightness of the Cardinals infractions vs letting the Eagles get away with blatant penalties reinforces that point.
 
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I got it!!!

Palmer=Paul Crewe...

Burn him!!!!
 

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I was in the stands last Sunday as I went with about 8 of by buddies to the game. They are all Eagles fans & they could only chuckle after the game. Not one of them could disagree that they stole that game. There is no doubt we got hosed by the officials down the stretch. That being said, Palmer was AWFUL!! He missed wide open guys all day. Now I'm hearing that he hurt either his hand or elbow. That would explain why his passes floated all day & he underthrew EVERYTHING. The Eagles secondary flat out sucks & we couldn't take advantage of that. Fitz has lost a step, but Floyd should have had 200 yards in that game. I had the angle on that 3rd down pass to Roberts on the last drive. No one was within 8 yards of Roberts & Palmer still missed him by 3 feet. When they hit Palmer's hand on that first drive, Floyd was 7 yards behind his man. One of the most frustrating games I've been to:bang:
 

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