Season ticket base is 17K!

[Jim O]

Just over 21,000 tickets have been distributed for the Seattle game as of today.

Just win.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by FJM
Drop Mac?????? if they do, season ticket sales will go down to 10,000.

Why? Do you really think that there are 7,000 fans that buy season tickets because they like coach Mac? And they won't come or buy tickets if the Cards went on a 4-game winning streak to end the season?

 

[Redheart]

Originally posted by kerouac9
Why? Do you really think that there are 7,000 fans that buy season tickets because they like coach Mac? And they won't come or buy tickets if the Cards went on a 4-game winning streak to end the season?

One bad premis followed by another...

 

[MadBird]

17,000 season tix, 21,000 for the home opener - in the NFL! OMG....this is sad....

I'm a Cards fan through and through...this is down right embarassing. I don't live in the area...I'm a long way away (east of the Mississippi), so I don't even have the opportunity to attend games.

I live in a city with a COLLEGE team that hasn't been to a bowl game in 31 years!, and they sold 25,000 season tickets and had 51,000 at least weekend's game....

The NFL has to be CONCERNED about this Big Time...
behind closed doors...

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Redheart
One bad premis followed by another...

Well, explain the logic to me. Jim says that the 17,000 fans that still hold season tickets are the "die hards." I'm willing to say that at least 5,000 of those are corporate owned (my company owns 4, and there have to be more). That's 12,000 fans. Over half of those "die hards" are going to give up because a coach was fired after a career record of 12-22?

 

[pinnacle]

21,000 is pretty awful...but at least 20,000 will be cardinal fans. There is really no excuse why it is that pathetic. The diamondbacks are out of the playoff hunt, on a losing streak and had 36,000 for a tuesday night game against the dodgers. Apathy regarding the cardinals may have reached an all time low. On the bright side - the contrarian indicator may be that the team is about to start improve..

 

[FJM]

Originally posted by kerouac9
Why? Do you really think that there are 7,000 fans that buy season tickets because they like coach Mac? And they won't come or buy tickets if the Cards went on a 4-game winning streak to end the season?

I guess they'll just have to do it to find out.

 

[Redheart]

Originally posted by kerouac9
Well, explain the logic to me. Jim says that the 17,000 fans that still hold season tickets are the "die hards." I'm willing to say that at least 5,000 of those are corporate owned (my company owns 4, and there have to be more). That's 12,000 fans. Over half of those "die hards" are going to give up because a coach was fired after a career record of 12-22?

No, I can't find the logic in that.

Or that a new coach would go 4-0.

But...I will keep looking...for logic, that is.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Originally posted by Jim Omohundro
Just over 21,000 tickets have been distributed for the Seattle game as of today.

Just win.

THat is beyond pathetic to me. That's tickets distributed? Are you telling me actual attendance could likely struggle to fill America West Arena? Keep telling us how things really have changed as we sit on our cap room as we did all offseason past April. 21,000 - wow is that sad.

 

[kerouac9]

Originally posted by Redheart
Or that a new coach would go 4-0.

That might have been extreme. But all I want is a coach who has a team prepared to win. This isn't a very bad football team, talent-wise. This team is capable of beating the... well, the Vikings. Truth be told, if Mac was fired at the bye week, this team, well-coached and -prepared, could go 6-4 to end the season. The team on Sunday would probably go 2-8.

 

[RedStorm]

Originally posted by MadBird
17,000 season tix, 21,000 for the home opener - in the NFL! OMG....this is sad....

I'm a Cards fan through and through...this is down right embarassing. I don't live in the area...I'm a long way away (east of the Mississippi), so I don't even have the opportunity to attend games.

I live in a city with a COLLEGE team that hasn't been to a bowl game in 31 years!, and they sold 25,000 season tickets and had 51,000 at least weekend's game....

The NFL has to be CONCERNED about this Big Time...
behind closed doors...

60,000 fans were at the Sun Devil opener against NAU. 4x as many..

 

[FJM]

Originally posted by kerouac9
Why? Do you really think that there are 7,000 fans that buy season tickets because they like coach Mac? And they won't come or buy tickets if the Cards went on a 4-game winning streak to end the season?

Why did we drop 8 or 9 thou from last year? we have had worse seasons then last year and didn't drop like this. Could it be..................Naw.

 

[RedStorm]

Originally posted by pinnacle
21,000 is pretty awful...but at least 20,000 will be cardinal fans. There is really no excuse why it is that pathetic. The diamondbacks are out of the playoff hunt, on a losing streak and had 36,000 for a tuesday night game against the dodgers. Apathy regarding the cardinals may have reached an all time low. On the bright side - the contrarian indicator may be that the team is about to start improve..

No one believes the Cards really do what it takes to win. I mean they are sitting on 14 million dollars, lose their starting DE and they pick up no one. Graves has his job because Bidwill is convinced he (Graves) will save him money. Graves has done that by letting all our WR walk and going with rookies. Sitting on 14 million because they did not want to sign someone before Wk 1 because they would have to guarantee the contract for this year. WTH...(What the Heck)

People don't come because they do not see the Cards improving and competing. They lost to the Lions who had 5 wins in two years.

They are lucky that they have 17,000 season tickets. However, it is probably more like 6k-8k of regular joe fan so it is probably worse.

Sorry to bring the darkside in on this issue but until Graves and the Bidwills pull out all the stops and start competing, people will not believe in the product.

 

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by RedStorm
60,000 fans were at the Sun Devil opener against NAU. 4x as many..

Sorry, but I have to correct the math. 3x's!

There you see the effect of ASU dropping ticket prices, more than anything else IMO. The one guy I know who dropped his tickets that sat in front of me last year, (and didn't drop them because of the ASU lawsuit), dropped them because the prices were raised in our section and he thought that was wrong.

 

[ajcardfan]

Originally posted by FJM
Could it be..................Naw.

On that issue sir, you are correct. Although it does account for your six tickets.

 

[WizardOfAz]

Originally posted by RedStorm
60,000 fans were at the Sun Devil opener against NAU. 4x as many..

Muchas Gracias NAU.

Will Utah State draw 60,000 at SDS?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Originally posted by FJM
Why did we drop 8 or 9 thou from last year? we have had worse seasons then last year and didn't drop like this. Could it be..................Naw.

boy you don't think it had anything to do with going 1-9 last year and getting the snot kicked out of us every week does it? Personally - in 15 years as a Card fan I have never seen them play so disgarceful as they did the last ten games of last season. The you throw in the unbelievably horrible word of mouth - draft, whiffing on free agents, etting Boston go - signing Emmitt Smith for somewhat confounding reasons - you don't all that had anything to do with it? Nah - it had to be because Plummer left - right? If that's the case - those fans can take a hike anyway because THEY ARE MORONS!

 

[RedStorm]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
Sorry, but I have to correct the math. 3x's!

There you see the effect of ASU dropping ticket prices, more than anything else IMO. The one guy I know who dropped his tickets that sat in front of me last year, (and didn't drop them because of the ASU lawsuit), dropped them because the prices were raised in our section and he thought that was wrong.

I stand corrected....

 

[RedStorm]

Originally posted by cheesebeef
boy you don't think it had anything to do with going 1-9 last year and getting the snot kicked out of us every week does it? Personally - in 15 years as a Card fan I have never seen them play so disgarceful as they did the last ten games of last season. The you throw in the unbelievably horrible word of mouth - draft, whiffing on free agents, etting Boston go - signing Emmitt Smith for somewhat confounding reasons - you don't all that had anything to do with it? Nah - it had to be because Plummer left - right? If that's the case - those fans can take a hike anyway because THEY ARE MORONS!

I think people see the Cards as a non competitive. They do not do what it takes to win. Just save money.

How much interest does 14 million earn sitting in a bank account???? How much will Bidwill need to come up with for the stadium and his lease on the practice facility in Tempe???

 

[HeavyB3]

If i wasn't a poor college student working a part time job that forced me to work sundays, i'd definatly be there every sunday. That being said, i hate my job... any of you guys wanna hire a smart capable 19 year old and will let me have sundays off? Oh yeah and i make 12.26 an hour now, but will settle for a little less.
No? Didn't think so

 

[SECTION 11]

I don't go because everyone else goes (obviously). I go because I like live football. They could have 17 season ticket holders, doesn't really matter to me.


Bandwagon fans suck.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by RedStorm
I think people see the Cards as a non competitive. They do not do what it takes to win. Just save money.

How much interest does 14 million earn sitting in a bank account???? How much will Bidwill need to come up with for the stadium and his lease on the practice facility in Tempe???

Well, if he is earning 1% on his money (basic money market account) he will earn a base rate of $383.56 per day on the $14 million. Of course that daily amount will rise once you factor in the compounding effect.

With compounding, they would earn $140,643 for 1 full year

 

[SECTION 11]

The salary cap is $75.007M this season.
The NFL shares 85% of it's revenue.
.85 x $75M = $63.75M.
The Cardinals are at this point $12.0M under the cap.
$75M - $12.0M = $63.0M
By the time any free agent scrubs are claimed off the waiver wire, there won't be anything left to "direct deposit" into his account except for what he's made on all 17K of us lunatics.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by SECTION 11
The salary cap is $75.007M this season.
The NFL shares 85% of it's revenue.
.85 x $75M = $63.75M.
The Cardinals are at this point $12.0M under the cap.
$75M - $12.0M = $63.0M
By the time any free agent scrubs are claimed off the waiver wire, there won't be anything left to "direct deposit" into his account except for what he's made on all 17K of us lunatics.

Exactly what happened to that $2 million dollars?

 

[SECTION 11]

Originally posted by AZCB34
Exactly what happened to that $2 million dollars?

He cut me a check for getting to 5,000 posts.