SF cuts ex-Card DE Johnson

[kerouac9]

Or maybe TJ struggled so much because defenses could completely key on him due to the fact that even with one on one coverage - they knew Plummer would up throwing a pick.

The kid got a new lease on life - with a better coaching staff he would have been a stud - but we didn't have a better coaching staff and so he wasn't - move on already.

You notice that teams have already discovered the way to beat Jake? Just shut down his RB, and Jake will be hucking left-handers all day. He's not a guy that can take over a game. It was easier with Portis, because Clinton is a little better than Quentin, and not many teams are as stout against the run as J-ville is, but damn, Snake. You have to get your team into the end zone.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

You notice that teams have already discovered the way to beat Jake? Just shut down his RB, and Jake will be hucking left-handers all day. He's not a guy that can take over a game. It was easier with Portis, because Clinton is a little better than Quentin, and not many teams are as stout against the run as J-ville is, but damn, Snake. You have to get your team into the end zone.

When you say that "...Clinton is a little better than Quentin" you do mean George to Tarantino right?


I nominate this for understatement of the year!

 

[Crazy Canuck]

You notice that teams have already discovered the way to beat Jake? Just shut down his RB, and Jake will be hucking left-handers all day. He's not a guy that can take over a game. It was easier with Portis, because Clinton is a little better than Quentin, and not many teams are as stout against the run as J-ville is, but damn, Snake. You have to get your team into the end zone.

.... and if Quentin hadn't fumbled inside the 20... JAKE would be two and 0...

 

[AZCB34]

Hey Cubbie - when we signed DG - I was taking a much needed hiatus from the board so I never got to see what people's reactions were and hell I might have asked this a month or two ago but don't remember your response so here's the question (if again - sorry): What is it that turns you off so much about DG and who would you have rather seen us hire?

I tried to PM you the answer but your box is full.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I tried to PM you the answer but your box is full.

go for it again - I just threw some crap out.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

You notice that teams have already discovered the way to beat Jake? Just shut down his RB.

.... you mean the same way defenses have beaten QBs since the dawn of organized football?

 

[kerouac9]

.... you mean the same way defenses have beaten QBs since the dawn of organized football?

No. This couldn't be less true. New England didn't have a running game last season, but won the Super Bowl. Oakland didn't have much of a rushing attack in 2002, but still managed to win the AFC. Eddie George average less than three yards per carry last season, but Steve McNair lead the Titans deep into the playoffs. Same with Michael Vick in 2002. Chad Pennington didn't lead a killer rushing attack in 2002, but still advanced his team to the AFC Championship game.

Or Marino taking the Dolphins to the playoffs year after year. Or Elway before Terrell Davis came to Denver. Was Dorsey Levens really that good when Favre was winning Super Bowls? Come off it, Canuck. Maybe teams don't pass in the CFL, but there are tons of teams who have tons of success behind a premire quarterback in the League. It's the middling guys (like Jake Plummer) who need 1500+ yard backs to have any modicum of effectiveness.

 

[Russ Smith]

Tait isn't hurting but I know it is very hard for you to give Jones any credit for trying hard to revive his career. The effort is there...maybe it wasn;t here but it is there now. Sometimes a person needs to almost lose something to realize how important it is to them.

What's funny is the Chiefs fans on the bronco board insist Tait was the weaklink on their OL the last few years.

I always thought he was pretty good.

 

[TheCardFan]

Who Jones? You gotta be kidding. Look back at the films for god sakes.

Jones was the exact same as Garrison Hearst...a late bloomer. Hearst was awful in the early years...finger tackles, not hitting the holes, and turning his back to the defense while trying to squeeze through...horrible. If I remember correctly, he went to Cincy had some success and then took off in SF. Jones was miserable for us, had some success in TB, and now he will take off in Chicago. He will probably be a Pro-Bowl rb.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

No. This couldn't be less true. New England didn't have a running game last season, but won the Super Bowl. Oakland didn't have much of a rushing attack in 2002, but still managed to win the AFC. Eddie George average less than three yards per carry last season, but Steve McNair lead the Titans deep into the playoffs. Same with Michael Vick in 2002. Chad Pennington didn't lead a killer rushing attack in 2002, but still advanced his team to the AFC Championship game.

Or Marino taking the Dolphins to the playoffs year after year. Or Elway before Terrell Davis came to Denver. Was Dorsey Levens really that good when Favre was winning Super Bowls? Come off it, Canuck. Maybe teams don't pass in the CFL, but there are tons of teams who have tons of success behind a premire quarterback in the League. It's the middling guys (like Jake Plummer) who need 1500+ yard backs to have any modicum of effectiveness.

All good points.

But I maintain that most D-coordinators believe that stopping the run, removing it as an option - is the first step in controlling a QB. New England's success in countering this is a notable exception. For lack of a running game, Marino failed to get his team back to the ultimate game, year after year... and Elway was viewed, by many, as a QB who had failed to meet his promise until the arrival of T. Davis.

This is a bit of chicken vs egg debate... and I'll stick with my view... and you with yours.

As for Plummer, I mildly suspect that he'll reach the Super Bowl at least as many times as Dan Marino, before his career is up.

The CFL, by the way - is a passing league. It's 3 down football on a longer and wider field.... what else could it be.....

 

[Crazy Canuck]

You notice that teams have already discovered the way to beat Jake? Just shut down his RB, and Jake will be hucking left-handers all day. He's not a guy that can take over a game. It was easier with Portis, because Clinton is a little better than Quentin, and not many teams are as stout against the run as J-ville is, but damn, Snake. You have to get your team into the end zone.

JAKE against SD

25 for 36 (294) 2TDs - no Int....

Denvers total running attack 35 yards.....

But, of course "He's not a guy that can take over a game."