Shaq rips Magic Coach Stan Van Gundy

[Shzm13]

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"I heard his comment. Flopping to me is doing it more than one time, and I realized when I tried to take the charge, as I went down, I realized that that play reminded me of his whole coaching career," O'Neal said of Van Gundy. "And one thing I really despise is a frontrunner, so I know for a fact that he's a master of panic, and when it gets time for his team to go in the postseason and do certain things, he will let them down because of his panic. I've been there before, I've played for him."

"Flopping is playing like that your whole career. I was trying to take the charge, trying to get a call. It probably was a flop, but flopping is the wrong use of words. Flopping would describe his coaching," O'Neal said, steering the conversation back to Van Gundy. "I'm not going to just sit abound and let nobodies take shots at me, and he is a nobody to me. And if he thinks he can get in a little press conference and take shots at me like I'm not going to [give] something back, he's got another thing coming."

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[AfroSuns]

Can someone please coach Van Gundy on how to dress. Sheesh

Sad that we wont be playing the Magic again this season.

 

[Bufalay]

Why is this obnoxious ass on the Suns?

 

[Shzm13]

Shaq rules

 

[Bert]

Obnoxious was Van Gundy acting all indignant about Shaq flopping on that play like none of his players have ever done it.

All the Van Gundy's are morons IMO.

 

[Bufalay]

Obnoxious was Van Gundy acting all indignant about Shaq flopping on that play like none of his players have ever done it.

All the Van Gundy's are morons IMO.

Well Van Gundy was obnoxious so I guess that makes it OK for Shaq to be equally, if not more, obnoxious.

 

[Shzm13]

Shaq is just too real for some people, i guess

 

[Bufalay]

Shaq is just too real for some people, i guess

Yeah he's extremely "real". He hit the nail right on the head when he called Van Gundy a "front-runner". What an accurate description of a guy who took over for Pat Riley when the heat were 0-7 to start the 03-04 season, and ultimately lead that team to the second round of the playoffs.

 

[Shzm13]

Too real for most fans.

More players need to be outspoken like Shaq

 

[Andrew]

How long has Shaq been in this league? It would be known throughout all the fanbases in the NBA, someone comments about Shaq's play, Shaq comments back.

Nothing new here.

 

[Bufalay]

How long has Shaq been in this league? It would be known throughout all the fanbases in the NBA, someone comments about Shaq's play, Shaq comments back.

Nothing new here.

Good point. We all should've known what an ass he was, Cobbler warned us!

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Shaq is just too real for some people, i guess

Being real would be Shaq calling out himself for dogging it the first half of last season when he was on the Heat. Or for throwing a hissy fit this year when he didn't get dealt to the Lakers or the Cavs at the deadline. Or for ditching the Magic for the limelight of LA. Or for showing up overweight to every training camp of his career.

Shut your damn mouth and play the game Shaq. In case you haven't noticed your team is in the freaking lottery.

 

[Bufalay]

Being real would be Shaq calling out himself for dogging it the first half of last season when he was on the Heat. Or for throwing a hissy fit this year when he didn't get dealt to the Lakers or the Cavs at the deadline. Or for ditching the Magic for the limelight of LA. Or for showing up overweight to every training camp of his career.

Shut your damn mouth and play the game Shaq. In case you haven't noticed your team is in the freaking lottery.

but but but Shaq is old, you can't expect him to carry the team.

 

[shazaam6]

"******* keep bitchin'" .........Stones

 

[CharlieTheBull]

Shut your damn mouth and play the game Shaq. In case you haven't noticed your team is in the freaking lottery.

Well......actually he is our best player since the start of the season. You can blame someone else for this pathetic season.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Well......actually he is our best player since the start of the season. You can blame someone else for this pathetic season.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with that statement. I just think it's foolish for a guy whose team is lottery bound to take jabs at a coach who is about to win 55+ games with significantly less talent. It makes Shaq look like a bitter attention-starved curmudgeon.

 

[Bufalay]

Well......actually he is our best player since the start of the season. You can blame someone else for this pathetic season.

Good point Shaq has been great. Blame Lopez for the team sucking.

 

[CharlieTheBull]

Good point Shaq has been great. Blame Lopez for the team sucking.

Ok, we all know that you are a Shaq hater, nothing new. Maybe you can blame Porter, Kerr or Amare instead ? Just one thing : SVG calls out Shaq in first. Of course, Shaq is talking too much. But he did it his whole career, and everybody like it. Now on the court, if you expect more than 19/9 from a guy who turns 37 years old, what do you expect from a young Amare ?

 

[AfroSuns]

Good point Shaq has been great. Blame Lopez for the team sucking.

Dude, why are you blaming Shaq? Van Gundy took a jab at him and you expect Shaq to take it, i don't, i wont. In case you missed the article http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...vLYF?slug=ap-oneal-flopflap&prov=ap&type=lgns
Shaq wil always be Shaq and if Van Gundy didn't anticipate Shaq ripping him a new one after his post game comments, then he doesn't deserve to be a coach.He also ought to know he cant win a war of words with Shaq, because he is a nobody compared to Shaq bitter as the truth may be, maybe he should reserve his comments till his boy; Howard, wins a title.
Shaq is already a legend, years from now people will always remember Shaq before any of the pathetic Van Gundy's.

 

[Bufalay]

I'm not blaming Shaq for starting this argument. Van Gundy comes across as an ass too, but Van Gundy doesn't represent my favorite team, so I don't care what he says. All I said was that Shaq sounds obnoxious, and that I wouldn't classify his statement that Van Gundy was a front-runner as "real". Furthermore, Shaq wants to be treated as the team's leader, gets paid like a team-leader, but is praised when his performance is below that of a legitamate team-leader because he's old. Good for him, he is performing better than we expected, but as the team's leader he deserves a large part of the blame for the team sucking, just like Baron Davis and Chris Bosh do this season and KG, Pierce and Ray Allen in previous years.

 

[AfroSuns]

I don't know if i can completely agree with you on that.
He may deserve a portion of the blame alongside his co-captains but we all know that Porter screwed up the first half of the season big time and the loss of Amare will impact the second half and if we will make the playoff.
I will be surprised if Shaq dont throw some teammates under the bus should we not make the playoff, this offseason, but it is Shaq, it is what he does and shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.

 

[Bufalay]

but it is Shaq, it is what he does and shouldnt be a surprise to anyone.

Shouldn't be a surprise doesn't mean that it should be acceptable.

 

[AnotherHOMER]

I didnt understand the "frontrunner" comment either. Van Gundy has proved he can coach. I think he was screwed when Riley took over for him and they went and got the ring. I thought Van Gundy deserved most of the credit.

Its whatever. Its pointless really. WIN SOME GAMES!!!!!!

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[Andrew]

HOUSTON -- Shaquille O'Neal is still seething about Stan Van Gundy criticizing him for allegedly flopping, even after the Orlando coach apologized.

"Don't play with me," O'Neal said Friday morning, where the Suns were preparing to play Yao Ming and the Rockets in the evening. "Seriously, don't play with me. Like I said earlier, I don't like frontrunners. I think he used the wrong choice of words. Flopping means that, hey, Shaq does that all the time. The rules say, you take it in the middle, you've got to fall back. And that's what I did."

The Flop Flap started Tuesday night, when Shaq and the Phoenix Suns played the Magic in Orlando. Dwight Howard made a spin move in the third quarter, O'Neal fell trying to draw an offensive foul, and Howard easily dunked.

Afterward, Van Gundy said he was "shocked and very disappointed" that O'Neal would resort to such a tactic. O'Neal fired back, calling his former coach in Miami "a frontrunner" and "a master of panic."

Van Gundy said he was sorry Thursday and jokingly called Shaq "a very sensitive guy."

Although Shaq said Friday the spat with Van Gundy was finished as far as he was concerned, he still wanted to have the final word.


"It was a cheap shot," O'Neal said of Van Gundy's original barb. "They won the game, move on. My thing is, I don't ask for a lot, but I demand my respect, especially from a guy like that.

"It's over now. He said what he had to say, I said what I had to say. Don't play with me."

Van Gundy and O'Neal have developed an icy relationship since Shaq went to play for Van Gundy in Miami for the 2004-05 season. The Heat won 59 games that season, but it ended with a loss to Detroit. After the game, O'Neal said he didn't get the ball enough.

O'Neal said he and the 7-foot-6 Yao should be the ones complaining about players who flop. O'Neal said smaller players often get the benefit of the doubt from referees when they try to guard them.

"Flopping has become a big concern, but I just take it as a sign of ultimate respect," O'Neal said. "[A player thinks], 'I can't guard you. I'm just going to fall down and cry to the refs.' Most of the time, the ref believes it.

"It's always David and Goliath," O'Neal added. "The little man always gets it. Their thing is, 'You're big and strong, you can take it.' But my point is, a pinch feels the same to me as it feels to you. Like I always try to tell you referees: You guys make the rules up, so a foul is a foul. It doesn't matter if a guy is bigger and stronger."

Yao complained about the officiating after he fouled out of Wednesday's 101-94 loss in Utah. His sixth foul came after he collided with Ronnie Brewer with 1:23 left in the game.

Yao agreed with O'Neal that referees seem to have a double standard.

"I know for the rest of the players and the rest of the referees, they don't face us every night," Yao said. "We face those rules every night. That makes us feel different."

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[Bufalay]

Lost in all of this was the fact that, this was a blatant flop and Shaq should've been called out on it. http://www.blinkx.com/video/shaq-flop-vs-dwight-howard/kyszMHo1-xs2yPfeCRm6Qg

Shaq says that he didn't flop because he doesn't do it all the time? No one called him a flopper, they said he flopped. He did flop.