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LOL... what in the world ever gave you this indication? it's manning's life/personal business. Was he supposed to tell everyone in the world his every move? sorry, but expecting ANY kind of negotiating to be a "structure, transparent and fair" process is incredibly pollyan-ish.
you are correct.

being as transparent with you as I can...being 100% transparent rarely happens in a recruiting process. not for the prospect and not for the salesman.
 

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Glad it's over and we can move on. It would have been torture if not for the Kolb scenario and this dragged on for another week.
 

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You're right - I learned my lesson & promise myself never to get sucked in again.
I wouldn't look at it that way if it were me. It was a tough situation. this rarely happens. when is there a franchise QB on the free agent market making visits and getting recruited like this? you have to play the game to win and there can only be one winner. In a way I was hoping dallas would go after peyton, but if they made that choice they would have had to deal with the concequences like potentially losing romo and other free agent prospects that were needed. So I'm ok with jerry jones saying from day one that tony was his guy 100% eventhough some fans in dallas were mocking him for it. I usually mock him too because he is a dope half of the time.
 

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Screw it, time to move on people... Niners ran interference, more reason to hate them... I still think Kolb should be cut.
 

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Well, allow me thank you for not using "sophistry" in your latest harague. ;)

LOL. I remember hearing the term "cognitive dissonance" for the first time as a freshman in college. It was a good 5 years before I could enter into an argument without bringing that concept to the discussion.

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LOL. I remember hearing the term "cognitive dissonance" for the first time as a freshman in college. It was a good 5 years before I could enter into an argument without bringing that concept to the discussion.

Steve

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trust me -- in a few days -- there will be two other fan bases also feeling used and abused.

I put Tennessee in position 1 for that

"But Peyton, you said you loved me!"
 

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trust me -- in a few days -- there will be two other fan bases also feeling used and abused.

I put Tennessee in position 1 for that

"But Peyton, you said you loved me!"
I really think he is coming to Nashville. If he doesn't he made a fatal mistake in his PR. He would have been better off if he had never mentioned Tennessee and kept it completely on the down low.
 

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I really think he is coming to Nashville. If he doesn't he made a fatal mistake in his PR. He would have been better off if he had never mentioned Tennessee and kept it completely on the down low.
I don't think it will go down that way if he passes on tennessee, but fans are crazy. some might turn on him. I still think tennessee is the favorite to land him, but the 49ers look very good right now if they can land peyton.
 

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I just see no reason to overreact to this. The guy wanted to finish his career a Colt. I hope he doesn't go to the Niners, but if he does, it has nothing to do with any Cards' fans rivalry. I immediately turn my attention to the Kolb/Skelton training camp. To take a motto from the Colts' good years, next guy up.
 

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LOL. I remember hearing the term "cognitive dissonance" for the first time as a freshman in college. It was a good 5 years before I could enter into an argument without bringing that concept to the discussion.

Steve

I've known the word for many years. I'm not trying to 'find' a reason to put the word in everywhere. It's just a simple fact that the world's processes, made up by 'experts', are nothing more than lies (that replaced tried and true processes...because inserting the sophistry did what? oh yeah allowed someone to profit). Sophistry is readily apparent all around us. It's in all the metrics, recommendations, so on and so forth. It's all around us. Fooling people left and right.

There is no way in hell my use of the word 'sophistry' is a like process to your use of 'cognitive dissonance'. Nice try. :)

It's not the, I don't understand it, and as I am learning what it means, I'm latching it onto everything. No I'm latching it onto everything, because it is IN everything. At a detriment to whatever matters to it.

The most important part of experts, is the legitimacy we wrongly give them. They're manufactured idiots, spouting bs, and no one questions them...because they are experts. Being an expert somehow is equated into...knowing what is really going on. Nope. Thus our world is ruled by 'experts' that are basing their decisions off factually incorrect information. Anyone want to build their house on that quicksand? Well our society has. Surprise it's crashing and getting worse. Or do you believe the experts that it is getting better?

Thus, when someone says we should wait for experts, and that any expert knows more than an internet yahoo, that's plain wrong. The track record of 'experts' is abysmal. Every time I listen to an expert, he's flat wrong.

People might want to see how embedded sophistry is in our structures, and see if that is giving us bad info, and leading us to make bad decisions. But it is everywhere, embedded into the process of almost everything, wholly unnecessary.

Consequently there are bad decisions being made constantly, and it doesn't get better, because people are doing the equivalent of banging their head into the wall and hoping the pain eventually goes away. The experts told me.......bs is what they told you.

I"m not telling people to dissent. I'm telling people the caviar people are being sold is dog crap, and to not let some 'expert' convince you otherwise. It doesn't matter what x is exactly, all that's needed to know is that it isn't what the expert is telling you.

People who blindly believe experts are cruising for a bruising. Just ask anyone that's been affected by 'experts'. It's sad that 'experts' have been screwing everyone over for so long, and so hard, and few even realize it.

We've just watched ESPN and their experts (and other media ofc) use their expertise by playing the Manning 'telephone' game, and whatever dummy changed the words due to incompetence, would then be quoted by another as 'news'. Happened throughout the process.

So yes when someone says go with the experts, I am astutely remarking that doing just that is what has got us here, on the brink of a worldwide collapse. So maybe we shouldn't always say that we should trust the expert over anyone that has a different viewpoint. If anything our experts should have to prove themselves as much as any internet yahoo.
 
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