Shelton demoted as Greem lays down law

[az1965]

L.J. didn't refuse to lose weight. He politely refused to talk to the media about the subject. Big difference.

Yes, it does -- However, this is not how the original artical blib sounded...

 

[Tangodnzr]

DG knows what he is doing.

Why do you even bother to post crap like this? Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend that just about everyone is now tuning you out due to the incessant and uneccesary repeticiousness of your posts.

I think we all know that "DG knows what he's doing"....after all, you pollute almost every single thread with the same ol', same o', same ol', same ol'.......lines with your reminders of it.

Not everyone here is totally brain dead. Some of us can think for ourselves. And your constant machine-gun repetitions of points you have already made a zillion times accomplishes little but make your posts strident and not worth reading.

(BTW...thank you Nidan for helping me improve my vocabulary. As it was you who first once used the adjective (strident) in regard to one of my posts. )

 

[HeavyB3]

I have a question. Can LJ play right tackle? Would Clement be a better Guard? I mean.. What if they moved Clement to left guard and LJ to Right Tackle? I think that would solidify our line assuming they could both play those positions.

Edit....
Oh and maybe someone should make Vikesfan a "DG knows what he's doing" smily.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I did a lousy job of making my point though.

What concerns me is if Green thinks Big is a LT and the best option, then why not come out and say Big is my LT this year? Let Big spend the time between now and game 1 preparing to play LT. Tell Shelton if you want to start, you have to win another position.

By saying LT "for now" he's saying that 3 months from now Shelton is back in shape and a better LT than Big, I'm going to swap them. That may make sense in the vein of put your best players on the field, but in the interim you've spent 3 months with Big practicing at LT instead of LG. If you want Big to be a dominant LG, let him practice there.

IF he said Big is my LT, I'd be ok with it, note I haven't complained once about moving him to LG I was fine with it because he made a decision. This one seems designed just to motivate a guy who frankly I'm not convinced had a motivational problem. LJ has missed 3 games in the last 4 years and has played hurt consistently during that time. He's not a Pro Bowler but he's a solid player, I'm not sure he needs this as motivation he's NOT one of the guys I worry about.

And as I've said for years, I don't believe Big can be an elite LT, never have believed it, I believe he can be a dominant guard or an elite RT, but not a LT. That's why I said we would be better off moving down and taking Hutchinson than taking him that high, and Hutchinson has been a better player so far even though he's purely a guard.

The problem is we've never seen Big play left tackle in the NFL. Until he gets the opertunity to play there we can't really judge him on how he will preform there. Green likes to give guys chances to shine. That might be what he is doing with Big here.

I'm not to concerned with messing up the chemistry on the O-Line. It's not like they've lived up to expectations in the past. Why not try something different?

With that said there's probably only one person who knows what Green's real intensions are that person is vikingsfan... oops I meant Green.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I have a question. Can LT play right tackle? Would Clement be a better Guard? I mean.. What if they moved Clement to left guard and LT to Right Tackle? I think that would solidify our line assuming they could both play those positions.

Edit....
Oh and maybe someone should make Vikesfan a "DG knows what he's doing" smily.

I think LT played Linebacker!

 

[azdad1978]

Why do you even bother to post crap like this?

Cause he only post here and he doesn't post in any Vikings board

 

[HeavyB3]

I think LT played Linebacker!

Yeah I don't know wtf I was on. LT...... LJ.....

I just got out of class what do you expect from me.

 

[azdad1978]

I think LT played Linebacker!

LT also plays RB for the Bolts

 

[vikesfan]

Why do you even bother to post crap like this? Why is it so difficult for you to comprehend that just about everyone is now tuning you out due to the incessant and uneccesary repeticiousness of your posts.

I think we all know that "DG knows what he's doing"....after all, you pollute almost every single thread with the same ol', same o', same ol', same ol'.......lines with your reminders of it.

Not everyone here is totally brain dead. Some of us can think for ourselves. And your constant machine-gun repetitions of points you have already made a zillion times accomplishes little but make your posts strident and not worth reading.

(BTW...thank you Nidan for helping me improve my vocabulary. As it was you who first once used the adjective (strident) in regard to one of my posts. )

At least I don't use a quote about SOCCER on a football board.

 

[red desert]

Please dispurse, people. There's nothing to see here. DG knows what he's doing. Please go back into your homes. There is nothing to see here.

That was funny.

 

[Russ Smith]

The problem is we've never seen Big play left tackle in the NFL. Until he gets the opertunity to play there we can't really judge him on how he will preform there. Green likes to give guys chances to shine. That might be what he is doing with Big here.

I'm not to concerned with messing up the chemistry on the O-Line. It's not like they've lived up to expectations in the past. Why not try something different?

With that said there's probably only one person who knows what Green's real intensions are that person is vikingsfan... oops I meant Green.

I guess my answer is we've seen him play RT and nothing he did there would lead me to believe he's going to be a great LT. I agree with others Left is his more comfortable side, hes' always played there until us. But left is typically the tougher side in the NFL, you see more speed rushers and those are the guys he has struggled with at RT.

It's not so much chemistry I'm concerned with, my thing is if you're not convinced that Big should be the LT, why move him and deny him practice time at LG?

Moving Quan doesn't concern me because he already proved he can be a great slot WR, so if the new spot doesn't suit him, we move him back. Big has NOT proven he can play LG, he's never played it, so if LT doesn't work out, he still has to go back to a position he's not familiar with.

If VF is right and moving around the OL is no big deal, why not let the 2 of them compete for LT? Whoever wins great, the other moves to another spot, why declare Big the LT "for now."

Just seems odd to me. Among other things if we DO decide to keep Big at LT, we just reduced the trade value of LJ Shelton by benching him now. We'd be better off saying he's the starter, get him in shape, and then trade him and start Big there if that's what we really want.

It's not as if we have a game this Sunday, the starting lineup this time of year is not so critical that you can't have a "starter" who is physically unable to start at the moment. For example Starks is a starter if I'm not mistaken, and he can't even play yet.

 

[HeavyB3]

I have a question. Can LJ play right tackle? Would Clement be a better Guard? I mean.. What if they moved Clement to left guard and LJ to Right Tackle? I think that would solidify our line assuming they could both play those positions.

Anyone want to humor me and answer this question? Anyone?

 

[vikesfan]

Anyone want to humor me and answer this question? Anyone?

Yes playing LT and RT is very similar. At RT you face pass rushers who are usually not as good as you face at LT (with some exceptions like Strahan). You have to be able to run block and I have been told by fans here he can runblock. So yeah LJ can switch the RT. As for Clement. I assume he could move to G since G is a little easier to play then T you can get help on pass rushing. I don't know about his mobility or strength but if he can play RT in the NFL he can probably play G in the NFL. I assume he can runblock well enough, if not he can always work on getting stronger and/or more mobile.

 

[Tangodnzr]

Actually it might be best if Clement were moved to Left Guard, beside Big at LT. Move Kendall to RT and Shelton to RG. Wells could start the year at C but then replace him with one of the rookies after the 7th game. At that point you could then shift Wells to LT, move Big to LG, Clement to RG and Shelton to RT.

That way, all the O-linemen are well versed at all positions should an injury occur, plus everyone would be playing in positions new to them and the useless prior years they spent with this pathetic organization could be isolated, dismissed, and negated so that the sins of the past would no longer haunt the future develpment of the team.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Actually it might be best if Clement were moved to Left Guard, beside Big at LT. Move Kendall to RT and Shelton to RG. Wells could start the year at C but then replace him with one of the rookies after the 7th game. At that point you could then shift Wells to LT, move Big to LG, Clement to RG and Shelton to RT.

That way, all the O-linemen are well versed at all positions should an injury occur, plus everyone would be playing in positions new to them and the useless prior years they spent with this pathetic organization could be isolated, dismissed, and negated so that the sins of the past would no longer haunt the future develpment of the team.

Yeah! - that's the ticket