I see similar problems with all the WRs since we probably miss a lot the separation watching Palmer getting sacked.
Should the Cardinals trade Fitzgerald?
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If there was a trade set up for him to go to a contender like the Patriots I'm sure he'd restructure to make the trade possible.
I agree 100% and have been complaining about our WRs not getting separation for 3 years. And you can really see it watching the All-22 on NFL Game Rewind. Floyd is a very good player. He is just not the right player for the Arizona Cardinals to have taken in the first round. We already had a guy who couldn't get open but could make great catches who is even better at it than Floyd. There were just too many other BPA's that would have helped the team more.
One of the reasons we give up so many sacks or passes into the stands is that nobody is open. We have to be the worst team in the NFL at running hot routes.
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Straight up for Boldin, yes.
Since Q left, he (Fitz) hasnt played on the same level, we did have bad QBs before, but with two great WRs, its very hard for defenses to double both, impossible, simply math. Same thing happened yesterday for Q, Davis was back and suddenly the safety didnt always roam to his side, production was obvious.
Fitz has seen double coverage constantly since Q left. Floyd and Roberts are not changing that at all.
Since Q left, he (Fitz) hasnt played on the same level, we did have bad QBs before, but with two great WRs, its very hard for defenses to double both, impossible, simply math. Same thing happened yesterday for Q, Davis was back and suddenly the safety didnt always roam to his side, production was obvious.
Fitz has seen double coverage constantly since Q left. Floyd and Roberts are not changing that at all.
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Floyd is just another redundant skill set on this roster which creates some of our roster issues. Too many big, physical WRs who can't seperate. Too many RTs who can't handle speed rushers. Too many thumping ILBs. Too many physical, box Ss.
One thing that struck me in an interview w/ Pete Carroll is that they look for prospects w/ unique characteristics. This might become a page we take out of their book. The few unique players we have on our roster seem to be our best.
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If they could then hell yes they should trade him. He strikes fear into exactly zero defenses playing on this team. But since they really can't it's a moot point. Weeeee!!
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With his contract,fitz value is second round pick
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Not Fitz, too problematic. Floyd as Chopper stated, hell yes. Shop the hell out of him. Nice big bodied receiver who can complete for 50/50 balls. There would definitely be some bites on that. Won't be what we paid for em, but it would be nice boost to next year draft and have a negligible impact on the roster right now.
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We have yet to have a star player drafted by the cards, play his entire career as a card and retire as a card. Fitz should be the first.
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No and Hell no! He is a Cardinal and should stay as long as he wants. I can't imagine him in SF colors.
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Realistically, until you have a well balance roster NOBODY should get huge contracts.
The days of lifetime employees ( players) are gone just like in the corporate world. I have 42 years with the company I work for. I would bet nobody in my company will ever see 40 years.
We are torn between wanting to win now and doing the right thing. See the Cleveland Browns....Seahawks...49ers. The Browns have started their rebuilding. The Seahawks and 49ers stockpiled draft picks over the last few years, drafted wisely and are now powerhouses. If the Browns draft wisely they will be in the drivers seat in 2 to 3 years.
The ideal thing for this club to do is tear it down and start over. We as fans don't want to hear it and would stay away in droves if the Cards were to trade Fitz, DWash, PP21, Dockett and Campell.
But if they could and they were able to recoup 5 or 6 extra picks in the draft along with their curret picks think of the possibilities. Of course we would have to draft wisely, which isn't a given with this organization.
Imagine a franchise Qb, a franchise LT , a couple of d-lineman, a true safety and a CB to replace PP21 and a reduced salary cap.
But alas, Palmer will help keep us " respectable" and low enough in the draft to not get a franchise QB. We will try to patch the o-line with a high ceiling OT. Fitz will be another year older and getting 1/8th of our salary cap. We will pay PP21 a crazy amount of money and moan a few years down the line how he is burdening the cap situation. Dockett and Brown will be cut. Brown will go on and become a stellar guard with his next team.
And the cycle will continue. We will continue piecing a roster together to keep the seats filled as much as possible with the battle cry, " We are not rebuilding, we are looking to win now!". Good luck with that.
Look no further than the Patriots. They continue to trade good ,even great players or allow them to walk a year too soon rather than a year too late. They don't cave to over paying players. Remember Asante Samuels? He was let go and the Patriots continued to win. Seymour, Welker and many, many more all the while stockpiling 2nd and 3rd round draft picks. All they do is win year after year after year.
They prey on the stupid teams. They prey on the perrenial losers. They would have never given Fitz a gazzilion dollars. They would have set their price and then moved on. Welker being the perfect example. Yet , here they are 3-0.
And as fans some of us will drink the kool-aid and some of us will spit it out. Before you know it, it will be training camp 2014, a new slogan, but the same old $hit.
The days of lifetime employees ( players) are gone just like in the corporate world. I have 42 years with the company I work for. I would bet nobody in my company will ever see 40 years.
We are torn between wanting to win now and doing the right thing. See the Cleveland Browns....Seahawks...49ers. The Browns have started their rebuilding. The Seahawks and 49ers stockpiled draft picks over the last few years, drafted wisely and are now powerhouses. If the Browns draft wisely they will be in the drivers seat in 2 to 3 years.
The ideal thing for this club to do is tear it down and start over. We as fans don't want to hear it and would stay away in droves if the Cards were to trade Fitz, DWash, PP21, Dockett and Campell.
But if they could and they were able to recoup 5 or 6 extra picks in the draft along with their curret picks think of the possibilities. Of course we would have to draft wisely, which isn't a given with this organization.
Imagine a franchise Qb, a franchise LT , a couple of d-lineman, a true safety and a CB to replace PP21 and a reduced salary cap.
But alas, Palmer will help keep us " respectable" and low enough in the draft to not get a franchise QB. We will try to patch the o-line with a high ceiling OT. Fitz will be another year older and getting 1/8th of our salary cap. We will pay PP21 a crazy amount of money and moan a few years down the line how he is burdening the cap situation. Dockett and Brown will be cut. Brown will go on and become a stellar guard with his next team.
And the cycle will continue. We will continue piecing a roster together to keep the seats filled as much as possible with the battle cry, " We are not rebuilding, we are looking to win now!". Good luck with that.
Look no further than the Patriots. They continue to trade good ,even great players or allow them to walk a year too soon rather than a year too late. They don't cave to over paying players. Remember Asante Samuels? He was let go and the Patriots continued to win. Seymour, Welker and many, many more all the while stockpiling 2nd and 3rd round draft picks. All they do is win year after year after year.
They prey on the stupid teams. They prey on the perrenial losers. They would have never given Fitz a gazzilion dollars. They would have set their price and then moved on. Welker being the perfect example. Yet , here they are 3-0.
And as fans some of us will drink the kool-aid and some of us will spit it out. Before you know it, it will be training camp 2014, a new slogan, but the same old $hit.
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This. Excellent question.
You try to build a team for 3 years from now in the NFL and you are going to get fired.
Andy Reid has Kansas City at 3-0. And I don't care who they played they beat them and two of those wins were on the road. Something they couldn't do last year.
Arians has to win now. Or at least by the 2nd half of this season. Not in 2015 when our star players will all be joining AARP.
You try to build a team for 3 years from now in the NFL and you are going to get fired.
Andy Reid has Kansas City at 3-0. And I don't care who they played they beat them and two of those wins were on the road. Something they couldn't do last year.
Arians has to win now. Or at least by the 2nd half of this season. Not in 2015 when our star players will all be joining AARP.
Absolutely get it. But if Andy Ried would ahve come here I can tell you beyond the shadow of a doubt we would not be 3-0.
The smartest thing he (they) did was getting Alex Smith. HE is the guy we should have got and I'm on record pimpin him. Why? Because he can move and is a guy we could have built around for the next couple of years. He would have made this current o-line a bit less vulnarable. We could actually rolled out once in a while.
Our problem now is do we build an offensive line around Palmer or do we get a young and mobile QB because realistcally we can't do both.
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if you have a chance to get a QB, you get the QB...always, IMO.
I imagine we could start a 20 page argument over who was better Palmer or Smith but in my humble opinion they are about the same. There is no reason we shouldn't be winning with Palmer and Fitz. I guess I should add that as disappointment #3 to my thread because I really thought Fitz would thrive with Carson. But right now he's on pace to only have 146 more receiving yards than last year with the 3 stooges at QB.
Warner was extremely effective for us until he was 38. Why couldn't we have 3-5 years of success with the 33 year old Palmer? That's a lifetime in the NFL. By the way why do some sites list him as 34 when he won't be 34 until after Christmas?
I'm not saying Smith is head and shoulders above Palmer but he is mobile and would have eased the pressure a bit on this o-line and he does not make many stupid mistakes especially over the last couple of years.
With the roster change over on this team it will take more than 3 weeks to get it together and Fitz's hammy hasn't help the situation. In the perfect storm Palmer would be fine and could lead a team to the playoffs. But as we all know this team is not in the perfect storm mold....more like a nightmare.
The Chiefs had 6 players go to the pro bowl last year (if I heard right). KC has had nowhere near the change over that we've had. I think Ried took a good look at these rosters and it made the decision easy as to where to go to start the next chapter in his coaching career.
And when he chose KC , we were insulted! He's probably a lot smarter than we thought, huh?
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Smith is s dink and dunk west coast QB, ideal for Reid's system. Not so for Arians.
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Trading Larry Fitzgerald is the dumbest idea that people keep bringing up. 
Of all the Cardinal first round draft choices made in the last 10-12 years, he is arguably the very best with the possible exception of Patrick Peterson. I wouldn't trade him for most of the NFL first-rounders in the last couple years with the obvious exception of Andrew Luck.
Of all the Cardinal first round draft choices made in the last 10-12 years, he is arguably the very best with the possible exception of Patrick Peterson. I wouldn't trade him for most of the NFL first-rounders in the last couple years with the obvious exception of Andrew Luck.
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Yeah... let's trade the guy who turned Revis into a pretzel on his TD yeaterday.
