Originally posted by Snakester
For me the easy choice would be Roethlisberger. He is #1 on my list. Manning is #2. If we don't get either one of them I would rather trade down. Roethlisberger looks like a mobile Dan Marino to me and I would not pass on a guy like that in the draft. If Josh McCown turns out to not be the guy we are hoping he could be then this team will be sitting at 4-12 again and I am not alright with that. QB is the most important position there is and I just don't see how we could pass on either Eli or Ben.
Huh? Josh is starting next year even if Eli or Ben are drafted. Them sitting on the bench doesn't effect whether the team wins 4 or 8 games. What might though is taking huge producer at WR who can help Josh. Or an amazing LT who can help Josh or even a big time S who can help the defense steal a game or two. If we draft Ben or Eli the odds of a 4 win season are more likely then not. And a bad season the next year too. QBs hardly ever do well out of the shoot. Culpepper sat 1 year. And he would have sat 2 if Marino had signed for a final year with the Vikes.Originally posted by Snakester
For me the easy choice would be Roethlisberger. He is #1 on my list. Manning is #2. If we don't get either one of them I would rather trade down. Roethlisberger looks like a mobile Dan Marino to me and I would not pass on a guy like that in the draft. If Josh McCown turns out to not be the guy we are hoping he could be then this team will be sitting at 4-12 again and I am not alright with that. QB is the most important position there is and I just don't see how we could pass on either Eli or Ben.
Originally posted by vikesfan
Huh? Josh is starting next year even if Eli or Ben are drafted. Them sitting on the bench doesn't effect whether the team wins 4 or 8 games. What might though is taking huge producer at WR who can help Josh. Or an amazing LT who can help Josh or even a big time S who can help the defense steal a game or two. If we draft Ben or Eli the odds of a 4 win season are more likely then not. And a bad season the next year too. QBs hardly ever do well out of the shoot. Culpepper sat 1 year. And he would have sat 2 if Marino had signed for a final year with the Vikes.
Originally posted by Stout
This is exactly the logic that helps keep us perennial losers in the NFL. You CANNOT draft a kid and expect him to start right away, from day one, especially a QB. Boldin is an exception, by far. BJ gets a lot of flak, but he was a rookie...he did about what he should have done. Pace? Eh, I wasn't encouraged by his play, but again, he was a rookie, and was pressed into duty too soon, IMO. You have to give your draft picks time to develop.
Originally posted by RonF
Having a shot at a future hall of famer may occur only once or twice every decade or so, especially at the QB position. IMO, I don't see Dennis Green letting it go by if either player is available. [/B]