Should the Suns keep Ryan McDonough as GM

[Errntknght]

No offense but there is a seven team tank race. Just a few wins could make the suns draft position fall several spots.

Yes, I noted that the first time a few weeks back. And what is there about playing Chriss, Bender, Jackson, Peters, Reed and Ulis won't help us lose... well, except for Peters and Reed playing for the NASuns?

 

[Cheesebeef]

No. JUST NO.

What do you think OTHER NBA players think of McDonough... after one failed draft pick after another (save Booker... Warren's a one dimensional garbage man that moves zero needles in the league)... after firing two head coaches... after TRASHING players on their way out... after becoming THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF THE LEAGUE REGULARLY LOSING GAMES BY ALL TIME RECORDS?!

For the love of God... what quality Coach OR Player looks at that guy and says... Yeah... that cat knows what he'd doing and I want to be a part of what he's doing?

WAKE THE F UP.

 

[Mainstreet]

Just play Chriss, Bender, Jackson, Reed, Peters and Ulis solid minutes and we don't have to tank. They started out the year saying the first goal would be player developement so just stick to that and we'll be fine.

I thought it was one heck of a starting lineup.

 

[pokerface]

Yes, I noted that the first time a few weeks back. And what is there about playing Chriss, Bender, Jackson, Peters, Reed and Ulis won't help us lose... well, except for Peters and Reed playing for the NASuns?

Just don't know how things will stand with Booker and Payton. I kind of think the suns are better talentwise than a lot the other bottom dwellers. Plus Booker is pretty clutch.

Some of these other teams are just awful.

 

[BC867]

I'm sure Cleveland thought the same thing with Kyrie, or the Suns did with Joe Johnson back in the day, or the Pacers with Paul George. The list goes on and on. You can't go out of your way to piss off the only hope the franchise has for the future.

Bingo!

 

[Ronin]

scott bordow
@sbordow

McDonough also talked about using Milwaukee, Miami picks as "asset consolidation," meaning Phoenix would either try to trade up or use those picks to trade for an established player

 

[Ronin]

scott bordow
@sbordow

McDonough also said center is "slightly higher" priority than point guard. In other words, if Phoenix gets No. 1 pick, Ayton could very well be the guy

 

[Ronin]

scott bordow
@sbordow

McDonough also wants to add more veterans to balance out age of roster. This is important. Phoenix needs some veterans on the bench so coach has options if young players struggle

 

[Hoop Head]

Thought I'd post McD's Facebook live interview from today. He spoke about bringing in some veterans this summer so the coach would be able to play them if the young players are struggling. He said he plans on interviewing a number of coaches, including Triano, and will be looking at college coaches also. He said that Center is a bigger need than PG for the Suns going forward. It was a good interview, not too revealing but it does belong here. You should be able to view it here.

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[Hoop Head]

I like the plan going forward and I think one position of need is PF. We have Chriss, Bender, and Dudley now but a veteran who can actually play PF would be an improvement to Dudley. I wonder if Milwaukee would trade Mirotic for Dudley during the offseason, or Chandler for Mirotic. He's only got 1 year left on his deal and he's ok coming off the bench. He has more size than Dudley does and might actually be able to play PF without the team being as weak up front. Not sure what other options are out there this summer. Drafting Ayton would be huge. They may want to keep Chandler to mentor him during Chandler's final season. Not sure if Milwaukee would have interest in Dudley. I thought it was odd how the Bucks signed Mirotic for the same amount the Suns signed Dudley, basically swapping them. I think Mirotic would have been a better fit for the Suns since they signed Dudley with the intention of him being a stretch 4, which he hadn't proved he could be.

 

[JustWinBaby]

No. JUST NO.

What do you think OTHER NBA players think of McDonough... after one failed draft pick after another (save Booker... Warren's a one dimensional garbage man that moves zero needles in the league)... after firing two head coaches... after TRASHING players on their way out... after becoming THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF THE LEAGUE REGULARLY LOSING GAMES BY ALL TIME RECORDS?!

For the love of God... what quality Coach OR Player looks at that guy and says... Yeah... that cat knows what he'd doing and I want to be a part of what he's doing?

WAKE THE F UP.

Amen

 

[BC867]

I just read that we've gone through six GM's and six Head Coaches in the past few years.

Is it that the powers that be know how to get rid of bad performers ...

... or is it that they don't know to hire good ones?

I would say that the answer is an obviousity.

 

[JustWinBaby]

I like the plan going forward and I think one position of need is PF. We have Chriss, Bender, and Dudley now but a veteran who can actually play PF would be an improvement to Dudley. I wonder if Milwaukee would trade Mirotic for Dudley during the offseason, or Chandler for Mirotic. He's only got 1 year left on his deal and he's ok coming off the bench. He has more size than Dudley does and might actually be able to play PF without the team being as weak up front. Not sure what other options are out there this summer. Drafting Ayton would be huge. They may want to keep Chandler to mentor him during Chandler's final season. Not sure if Milwaukee would have interest in Dudley. I thought it was odd how the Bucks signed Mirotic for the same amount the Suns signed Dudley, basically swapping them. I think Mirotic would have been a better fit for the Suns since they signed Dudley with the intention of him being a stretch 4, which he hadn't proved he could be.

In all due respects McDonough's plan sounds great but thus far his great veteran free agent signings have been:

Tyson Chandler & Dudley - how has that worked out?

To Quote Cheesebeef

WAKE THE F UP.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

In all due respects McDonough's plan sounds great but thus far his great veteran free agent signings have been:

Tyson Chandler & Dudley - how has that worked out?

To Quote Cheesebeef

WAKE THE F UP.

Gotta love it. Someone disagrees with you so they apparently need to “WAKE THE F UP”...

It’s called differing opinions and make no mistake that is all your post is, an opinion. Maybe next season will prove you right and maybe it will prove you wrong, but until it happens it is simply conjecture from both sides.

 

[Hoop Head]

In all due respects McDonough's plan sounds great but thus far his great veteran free agent signings have been:

Tyson Chandler & Dudley - how has that worked out?

To Quote Cheesebeef

WAKE THE F UP.

Ok, he's signed 2 veterans and Chandler wasn't a bad signing at the time. The Dudley signing was questionable but I don't recall seeing anyone be overly critical of that. When those veterans were brought in they were brought in more as leaders in the locker room rather than on the court. Was that a mistake? Yes and no. You need good vets in the locker room to help the young players along but Dudley hasn't been a good player since he's returned. If McD had signed someone else to fill that role who could also actually cover the PF position then that would have been much better but at the time the Suns just drafted 2 PF's within the top 10 of the draft so they wanted to acquire a vet who could play PF that would be willing to take a backseat to those young guys if they stepped up. Dudley can't play PF though so it was a bad signing but not awful considering he is the type of guy you want in the locker room. I don't think those 2 signings are enough to warrant your "WAKE THE F UP" response though, far from it.

It doesn't really matter how we feel about McD though, we're not in a position to force Sarver to make changes this offseason so people might as well accept that he'll be kept through the summer. Sitting around and bashing his moves accomplishes nothing. I'd prefer to be optimistic going forward.

 

[pokerface]

Wake the f up...

McD isn't going anywhere right now. He's under contract for another year. He's definitely not getting axed during this offseason. This is where his accumulation of assets starts paying off.

Besides, he scored us Jackson so chill out. JJ is a step forward. Hopefully this offseason will be a leap forward.

 

[sunsfan88]

Wake the f up...

McD isn't going anywhere right now. He's under contract for another year. He's definitely not getting axed during this offseason. This is where his accumulation of assets starts paying off.

Besides, he scored us Jackson so chill out. JJ is a step forward. Hopefully this offseason will be a leap forward.

Jackson over Mitchell is gonna look as bad as Len over McCollum & Bender over Murray.

Booker next to a guard like McCollum or Murray who can actually shoot would've been amazing to watch. Instead we have two big Euro busts in Len and Bender.

McDonough needs to stop his Euro fantasy when it comes to drafting players in the top 5.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Jackson over Mitchell is gonna look as bad as Len over McCollum & Bender over Murray.

Booker next to a guard like McCollum or Murray who can actually shoot would've been amazing to watch. Instead we have two big Euro busts in Len and Bender.

McDonough needs to stop his Euro fantasy when it comes to drafting players in the top 5.

In the case of Len over McCollum, it is not easy to scout players like McCollum. Every year there are guys like McCollum in the draft who are 4 year players about 6’2”-3” who score a ton of points for small schools and never amount to much at the NBA level. For every McCollum there are probably 10-15 players that don’t amount to anything.

 

[Hoop Head]

Jackson over Mitchell is gonna look as bad as Len over McCollum & Bender over Murray.

Booker next to a guard like McCollum or Murray who can actually shoot would've been amazing to watch. Instead we have two big Euro busts in Len and Bender.

McDonough needs to stop his Euro fantasy when it comes to drafting players in the top 5.

Mitchell appears to be a solid player for Utah but I can't see the difference being that much between him and Jackson. Jackson has stepped up big time over the last 2 months while Mitchell has cooled off from his hot start. The talent there is more even. I'd say the difference there is more selecting Len instead of Noel. The talent isn't that different between the two of them and it's more the fit with their teams.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

I don't trust RMD, he loves the Euros a bit much for my liking. I do think he would draft the Euro PG over Ayton and Bagley, Jackson Jr. Because he has a liking for these guys playing against sub par competition.

But to be fair, RMD is a symptom, Foamy is the real trash brining this franchise to crap.

Oh and that young player RMD is saving all those protected picks for...Is Booker, hopefully he doesn't fall in love with another cute Euro guy XXOO RMD. Because he might take his eye off the balls and Booker bails.

Fantasy - If I had enough resources and investors to buy the Suns, I'd fire RMD on day one, actually I'd clean house, all those ******* would be out.

"Dear Phoenix Suns Fans, while I respect all the work Mr. Sarver and his staff has done over the past decade, this franchise needs a fresh start, and I will be make several changes to connect with our community, with our past and bring this great franchise back to excellence for the 2020's."

Ryan will be fine, I'll send him on a Euro Cruise, where he can admire sexy 6'11 17 year old boys.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Mitchell appears to be a solid player for Utah but I can't see the difference being that much between him and Jackson. Jackson has stepped up big time over the last 2 months while Mitchell has cooled off from his hot start. The talent there is more even. I'd say the difference there is more selecting Len instead of Noel. The talent isn't that different between the two of them and it's more the fit with their teams.

Actually it was Euro Len over Euro Yanis. RMD is a Boston guy, he is looking for thick white dudes that lumber down the court.

Jackson was a no brainier at 4. All of Phoenix could figure out that was the best pick that high.

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Ok RMD lovers. Thought experiment here.

Suns have the 1 pick 1993 draft.

Who would RMD have picked?

a. Webber
b. Bradley
c. Hardaway
d. Mashburn
e. Rider

I would bet my house RMD would have gone Bradley. He is Dragan Bender with like 100 pounds, same dude. This is the GM of the Suns.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I don't trust RMD, he loves the Euros a bit much for my liking. I do think he would draft the Euro PG over Ayton and Bagley, Jackson Jr. Because he has a liking for these guys playing against sub par competition.

But to be fair, RMD is a symptom, Foamy is the real trash brining this franchise to crap.

Oh and that young player RMD is saving all those protected picks for...Is Booker, hopefully he doesn't fall in love with another cute Euro guy XXOO RMD. Because he might take his eye off the balls and Booker bails.

Fantasy - If I had enough resources and investors to buy the Suns, I'd fire RMD on day one, actually I'd clean house, all those ******* would be out.

"Dear Phoenix Suns Fans, while I respect all the work Mr. Sarver and his staff has done over the past decade, this franchise needs a fresh start, and I will be make several changes to connect with our community, with our past and bring this great franchise back to excellence for the 2020's."

Ryan will be fine, I'll send him on a Euro Cruise, where he can admire sexy 6'11 17 year old boys.

He said he sees Center as a bigger need than PG. Thus I highly doubt he takes Doncic over Ayton. He might take him over anyone else though.

 

[sunsfan88]

Mitchell appears to be a solid player for Utah but I can't see the difference being that much between him and Jackson. Jackson has stepped up big time over the last 2 months while Mitchell has cooled off from his hot start. The talent there is more even. I'd say the difference there is more selecting Len instead of Noel. The talent isn't that different between the two of them and it's more the fit with their teams.

Mitchell is a much better shooter and defender (two things that are most needed from nba players today)’than Jackson. Other than that, yes they are similar.

 

[sunsfan88]

In the case of Len over McCollum, it is not easy to scout players like McCollum. Every year there are guys like McCollum in the draft who are 4 year players about 6’2”-3” who score a ton of points for small schools and never amount to much at the NBA level. For every McCollum there are probably 10-15 players that don’t amount to anything.

Yeah but it’s his job to scout players like McCollum and do it well. It’s why he gets paid millions upon millions of dollars to do his job.