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To answer your first question. Yes. That’s exactly what free agency is. You target a major need and go after the player you want even if it means reasonably overpaying.
We don’t do that. We want a player . We try to get a player and then we settle for second or third choice for fiscal responsibility.
Sweat is a major anomaly but if the Eagles wanted him , he wouldn’t be here.

No, that's not how it works. Firstly, you don't overpay. Milton Williams and Will Fries are both massive overpays, especially Williams. Overpaying for players that don't deliver hamstrings you in the future and causes locker room unrest.

Players also have a say, money generally talks, but again you have to have your limits, but it's not the only factor. Especially with players that are already set for life. Guys like Jon Allen are already multi, multi millionaires. If you had a choice between the Vikings for €20m or the Cards for €21m where would you go? Vikings have made the playoffs pretty consistently. Often guys will take slightly less for a real postseason shot.

Expecting Monti to Oprah FA is just unrealistic.

Honestly, the amount of whining on this board before day 1 of FA officially ended is astounding.
 

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No, that's not how it works. Firstly, you don't overpay. Milton Williams and Will Fries are both massive overpays, especially Williams. Overpaying for players that don't deliver hamstrings you in the future and causes locker room unrest.

Players also have a say, money generally talks, but again you have to have your limits, but it's not the only factor. Especially with players that are already set for life. Guys like Jon Allen are already multi, multi millionaires. If you had a choice between the Vikings for €20m or the Cards for €21m where would you go? Vikings have made the playoffs pretty consistently. Often guys will take slightly less for a real postseason shot.

Expecting Monti to Oprah FA is just unrealistic.

Honestly, the amount of whining on this board before day 1 of FA officially ended is astounding.
This is where your premise kind of falls apart. If the player isn't going to deliver, you shouldn't want him at any price, so even trying to sign them is a bad idea. If they do deliver solid play, then overpaying is no bad thing. Not unless you're in cap hell, which we decidedly aren't.
 

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This is where your premise kind of falls apart. If the player isn't going to deliver, you shouldn't want him at any price, so even trying to sign them is a bad idea. If they do deliver solid play, then overpaying is no bad thing. Not unless you're in cap hell, which we decidedly aren't.
Indeed! Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'd much rather be damned if you do. People try so hard to skew the reasoning behind signing or not signing a player to fit their narrative. Milton Williams is a guess. I don't care how well people THINK he will play. It was fine for the Patriots, and that's why THEY did it. I only care what one Arizona Cardinals do. I could care less about any of the other 31 teams plans or philosophy. I expected "smart" aggressiveness, and we've been decent thus far. There were players signed that could have helped us, and that is what irks me the most. I'm gonna take a chill pill though for now, and wait until it all shakes out.
 

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They actually were on pace to win their division, but apparently Cousins was playing injured in the week 10 loss for the rest of the season - they were 6-3 at that point. Stuff like this happens with a 36 year old QB.
They weren’t winning because of Cousins, because he was pretty bad. They had one of, if not the easiest schedules. Tampa had a rash of injuries early on or they would have clinched that division real early.
 
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No, that's not how it works. Firstly, you don't overpay. Milton Williams and Will Fries are both massive overpays, especially Williams. Overpaying for players that don't deliver hamstrings you in the future and causes locker room unrest.

Players also have a say, money generally talks, but again you have to have your limits, but it's not the only factor. Especially with players that are already set for life. Guys like Jon Allen are already multi, multi millionaires. If you had a choice between the Vikings for €20m or the Cards for €21m where would you go? Vikings have made the playoffs pretty consistently. Often guys will take slightly less for a real postseason shot.

Expecting Monti to Oprah FA is just unrealistic.

Honestly, the amount of whining on this board before day 1 of FA officially ended is astounding.
Of course you shouldn’t grossly overpay. I would never thought signing Williams or Fries at that cost would have been prudent.
I also think signing Jones for close to 5m is dumb.
 

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